Which drag bag / shooting mat is really the better of the two?

I have 2 Blackhawk drag bags and 1 shooting mat/bag. I own no Eagle rifle cases, but I do have an Eagle backpack that I have hauled around for 5 years now, and it is still good as new. I do not have any complaints with my BH bags, so I would need more evidence to justify the extra dough on an Eagle drag bag, since you can get a BH for about $200. That being said, Eagle does seem to have some more variety in terms of drag bags, such as the HSRC. I think the Eagle stuff looks nicer than BH. Gauging by the condition of my 5 year old abused good-as-new backpack, I don't think you can go wrong with Eagle. My BH drag bags are also unscathed, but then again I am not hauling them around every day. If I had to take a stab as to which one is more durable, I would have to go with Eagle, though I have no hard evidence to warrant that claim. I think you are good either way, but if cash is no object, I would go with Eagle.

None,

After the first couple of months you will wonder why you spend all that money for a drag bag.

Get a backpack, a simple rifle case and call it even.

John

Big +1!

Also wanted to add, if you do buy a drag bag, get an Eagle from Triad. The Eagle is made in the US, the BH is made in Vietnam.

Go with Eagle and never look back, the HSRC is great for bag/mat at the ranges. or out in the field.

There was one for sale in the forum for $240, but quickly, it was gone. Hard to see one in the sale forum for this item. However, even if you pay the full price and get one brand new, it is well worth the $$

Eagle.

China vs US.edited upon information below tha Eagle isn't US made. US friendly don't mean shit (Taliban was US friendly a few years back)

If you're ok with import, look at the Galati case/mat. I've been using one for 6 years now and the only thing that gives away its age is the color (remember when black was cool?).

I am moving to a ruck or belt and my rifle for the most part personally. Unless stalking is on your agenda, drag bags are best suited for those that actually drag their gear.

Go with Eagle. Their QC is better and even though they have outsourced their manufacturing, they have done so in countries that are friends of the U.S.



Years ago, when BH first started having their stuff made in Korea, I talked to a BH sales rep about this. My team had purchased a lot of their gear and we really liked the fact that the company was founded by a former SEAL who, IIRC, emphasized that all gear was American made. The sales rep stated they had to go overseas to get things made because of cost concerns but he strongly emphasized that America had no stronger ally in Asia than South Korea and that we had been to war with them by our side a couple of times. He was adamant that BH would never do business with any country that was hostile to the U.S.

A few years later, BH started having their stuff made in Vietnam. I stopped to wonder if my dead Uncle's blood had fallen on the same ground where BH's factory is now. I further reflected on the fact that several of my teammates had fathers and uncles who had also served there. Then I considered that many of the same individuals who were high-ranking officers in the NVA are now literally in charge of the country. We discussed these concerns as we looked at our gear with the "Made in Vietnam" tags on it. We stopped ordering from BH after that.

Eagle offers Berry compliant domestic ma...ican Republic.

I doubt that Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic is going to fly any airplanes into U.S. buildings, impose Sharia law on another country, or foment suicide attacks any time soon. There's a big difference between those two countries and Vietnam.

A TAB cover TAB mat and a Spec-Ops Brand T.H.E. Pack is all youll ever need, all made in the USA, but if really set on a bag get a Eagle HSRC from Triad.

When did Puerto Rico stop being part of the US?

Puerto Ricans have rejected statehood three times in the last 40 years. It is currently a self-governing commonwealth in association with the United States.

I personally like Eagle stuff. Not all eagle is made in PR. most of the military contract items are still made in the US.

Some, (not much) BH gear is still made in the USA.

Gallati is some pretty good cheaper gear, IMO.

I have been using Eagle as their quality is exceptional.

They also make soft cases that fit in Storm cases.... (there may be a more economical location to purchase it..., but), which I enjoy: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=350

+1 for Eagle

Also have an Eagle. My cousin uses strictly Blackhawk but keeps it nice and clean like he might wear it on his back to church one day. Mine gets used like it was made for. I take it hunting ALL THE TIME. I understand the new Eagle bags have fixed this issue...but the old Eagle bags (mine) were VERY front heavy in relation to the carry handles, problem solved by having any ammo/extra weight toward he rear. Problem could be due to the fact that my weapon has a 24" x .936 bull that makes the OA weapon weigh about 13 lbs. Also, ya gotta love the 3 Color Desert and Multicam bags Eagle offers.

Do they make double rifle drag bags and how much do they cost?

I am very anti-double bag, had an UTG one long ago (sold it) but when i had an AR on one side and a conversion upper on the other side...they just seemed like they were always banging into each other when I used it backpack style. Not to say they don't work...just that I was not a fan. The divider doesn't seem like adequate protection. I can't speak on weather either E or BH makes them...cause I have never wanted one.

Tacops bag.

Thanks for all the info thus far. Let me add that I am primarly interested in either of these as a rugged tactical shooting mat and not so much a case. Please let me know if I should be looking in another direction all together.

Yes, if that's the primary reason you want one, then you should definitely be looking at something else. Drag bags are just that....bags designed to protect the weapon as you drag it behind your low-crawling body. The idea is that you sneak into position and pull the bag in behind you.

There are many different shooting mats out there that will serve for competitions or long-range hunting. Most all of them are more comfortable than using a drag bag. IMHO, mats are highly overrated unless you need one to help you maintain comfort and alertness in a long-term, fixed position.

I stopped buying all BH gear when I met with Mike one day, and he rolls up late in his new Porsche while I was waiting around watching boxes full of Vietnamese product being unloaded in the warehouse. I had three brothers do tours in Vietnam and consider Mike a shitbird for outsourcing to put extra money in his pockets.

I custom order some Eagle products, but nothing can and ever will be outsourced. It's bad enough the way they run business in the US.

If everyone only knew the real story about some of the big suppliers, you would tell them to kick rocks until their feet hurt.

BTW you need a TAB shooting mat.

I've never had a problem with my eagle gear.

I don't think you could go wrong with either of these as a first time purchase - they come in an arrange of colors and are relatively lower cost versus a drag bag or HSRC:

http://triadtactical.com/?mainURL=/store/category/e555/Drag_Bags.html

http://triadtactical.com/?mainURL=/store/category/e555/Drag_Bags.html

Really it all comes down to what your use is. If you're going hunting, do you really want your gun in a bag (where you can't utilize it for a snap shot). With the items above, both can be rolled up relatively small and put in or attached to a backback (assuming you don't want to carry the gun in it). You may be able to do the same with the HSRC, but it seems too bulky to me for most hunting applications. I do see where it could be a great setup for range use or popping p-dogs.

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am all to familiar with what a drag bag is and how it works. Now that I'm in the civilian sector I am looking for more of a tactical mat but having the option to protect my weapon as well is a plus. I've been subjected to the weather for years, so any chance I get to shoot in the prone and not get soaked is very much inviting. Even though I'm most likely not going to use what ever I choose to the ends of it's ability, I still like to have tactical hi-speed products. I figured the drag bag / mat would be an all in one solution. If I didn't go that route then maybe just a TAB mat?

Sorry - didn't check my links. I wasn't pushing the 'standard' drag bag, but rather the DB-BS or Eagle's basic Shooting mat. For some reason the URL got cut off when I pasted it in to the post. Triad always seems to have a good price and most everything in stock.

My impression is that both of these items are focused more towards a shooting mat, but you have the option to toss a rifle in it if you need. For a basic mat, probably can't beat TAB for function at the price.

Yes Eagle has production in DR and PR. They will not sell an item from these places without asking you if its OK first. They keep all the DR/PR items in a separate warehouse in St. Louis. If a regular item is out of stock, they will check the DR warehouse and ask if you are willing to take this item in substitute. I don't consider it outsourcing, more like alternate sourcing, if acceptable to the buyer.

Screw Galati. They must have spys at Eagle. There have been Eagle products that Galati knocks of and gets to market before Eagle. Guess there is some flexibility to "Stolen in St. Louis, Made in Asia"

That right there I did not know. But I will say this ..... I makes me want to continue purchasing Eagle products reguardless of where they are made. If they will go thru that with a supplier and say hey we are out of the US made stuff and have this stuff that is made to our specs here but it isnt officially made in the US are you willing to accept that ..... I gotta give them props for that and support them.

This is really good to know. I was getting a little queasy for a minute there, having promoted Eagle gear to friends that are sticklers for buying American, etc! Thanks!

i like my eagle.

I am a loyal Eagle fan. If it's made from nylon I first look to the hide vendors to see if they make what I need then Eagle. I won't buy BH for their outsourcing and I feel their quality is not on par with Eagle.

It sounds to me like the HSRC is exactly what you need. Extremely durable, carries a rifle well and makes a great mat. The only compromise is that it does not offer much storage for ammo, mags or other equipment that you could fit into the large pockets on the side of a drag bag. They don't work well for dragging however, I learned that the hard way.