Suppressors Am I screwed? Ruger MK IV 22/45 Lite with a FAKE thread protector :(

[Tyler Kemp]

I bought a 22/45 Lite as a can host. Went to unscrew the thread protector when to my surprise, I found out it was simply held on with an O-Ring:

Ruger 2245 LT .22 LR 4.4 LTG

RUG MKIV 2245 LT 22LR 4.4 LTG No/TB

www.budsgunshop.com

Looks threaded, nothing saying it isn't threaded...until you read the question someone asked.

Apparently the little threaded portion isn't the barrel itself, but an odd little nut piece that holds the barrel in tension with the aluminum housing. That part is interchangeable, but when I called up Ruger they told me they would not sell that part, nor give instructions or specs on installation.

Has anyone else ran into this and found a solution? What a pain.

 

[SDet]

Can you post a picture with the "cap" off?

 

[Waorani]

43921 is non-threaded. There are other threaded versions of that light model.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

BEHOLD THE LAMENESS. Ruger told me I couldn't get the part because of ATF regulations....

 

[Tyler Kemp]

43921 is non-threaded. There are other threaded versions of that light model.

But why tho

 

[mongoosesnipe]

https://www.ruger.com/products/markIV2245Lite/models.html looks like that light blue upper must be a ban state compliant model all the other colors are threaded

 

[W54/XM-388]

I wonder if that's a distributor exclusive that's designed for Communist states that don't allow the proles to have threaded barrels on their pistols?

 

[Waorani]

But why tho

Agree it doesn't make sense but you'd think Bud's would be clear in description that it just looks like it's threaded. Is there anything there to thread? Will Bud's swap it given poor description (guessing not)?

 

[W54/XM-388]

BEHOLD THE LAMENESS. Ruger told me I couldn't get the part because of ATF regulations....

My guess is that if they sold you the parts to make a "compliant" model pistol "Non-Compliant" there would be all kinds of trouble from the stupid government types.

 

[j741]

to answer your question - I didn't find any route around it. Bought same pistol and then surprised by lack of threading. Same response from Ruger - "nothing we can do". I could go buy a Pacsol integrated suppressor upper for it but I'm instead just going to sell it at a loss to go buy a threaded one.

I also had a different 22/45 Lite that had the threaded barrel nut on it. That barrel nut came loose one day with suppressor use and Ruger said only way to fix was to send the upper back to them. They would not send out a part for local repair. Looking a the manual there is even a big warning about the barrel nut and they say only Ruger can address it.

 

[SDet]

What's the od on the tip when you remove the cap?

 

[Middle Man]

I wonder if that's a distributor exclusive that's designed for Communist states that don't allow the proles to have threaded barrels on their pistols?

Nope. Standard catalog model for consumers that don’t want (or can’t have) a suppressor. All the more confusing is that Ruger offered a Lite in a similar grey color that was threaded and discontinued it... for 2019 both the grey Lite models are non-threaded. Ruger has changed up the color offerings on the cataloged Lite models each year, with only the black being consistent.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

What's the od on the tip when you remove the cap?

Probably large enough to thread, but what about the o ring groove? Can get a measurement later. Really don't want to remake the part...would be a huge pain in the ass. Never heard of a fake thread protector, my mind was blown.

 

[padom]

Man that sucks! I just got a 22/45 Tactical over the Lite for suppressor host and now I'm glad I went the Tactical route. Amazing pistol, love it

 

[BurnOut]

Boy, that's the kind of thing that'd piss a guy off, right there. I'd have to think that the externally threaded barrel tension nut wouldn't be TOO difficult of a piece for a 'smith to make, but by the time you went through all that hassle it may just (unfortunately) be easier to sell it and buy the factory threaded model.

 

[SDet]

Probably large enough to thread, but what about the o ring groove? Can get a measurement later. Really don't want to remake the part...would be a huge pain in the ass. Never heard of a fake thread protector, my mind was blown.

If it can be threaded, then it will be fine. You might even be able to threaded it 7/16 and use the adapter like the m&p 22 and similar pistols do.

 

[NWnewguy]

If you haven't shot it, Buds will take it back from my experience. Then you can get the one you want, which is model 40126, unless you really need the light weight. I have a mk3 lite and the 40126 and I like the heft of the 40126.

I am getting ready to have one of my Mk 2 slab sides chopped to 4 5/8" and threaded though and then that one may become my favorite.

 

[One1Bravo]

Man that sucks! I just got a 22/45 Tactical over the Lite for suppressor host and now I'm glad I went the Tactical route. Amazing pistol, love it

I went the same route with the Tactical. I wanted the regular barrel vs the pencil barrel in the aluminum shroud and barrel nut mess.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

If you haven't shot it, Buds will take it back from my experience. Then you can get the one you want, which is model 40126, unless you really need the light weight. I have a mk3 lite and the 40126 and I like the heft of the 40126.

I am getting ready to have one of my Mk 2 slab sides chopped to 4 5/8" and threaded though and then that one may become my favorite.

Oh I shot it. One mag each between my employees and I. Then went to try a can and......the sads

 

[loveha]

Would still give them a call and tell them the situation. Maybe try and make a deal?

 

[psychogecko]

whew, sorry to hear this. I was looking at the same pistol. It isnt really cool unless it looks like it has a threaded barrel.

 

[XLR308]

I would have guessed they were all threaded, would have guessed wrong.
I pulled the thread protector off of mine in the store while looking at it before I even started the paperwork.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

I think I'm gonna weld on that o ring slot, turn it back to the correct OD, and thread. Unfortunately Ruger won't help, remaking the whole part would be more expensive (not crazy complex, but not crazy simple), and then I'm gonna have the only threaded wood grip 22/45 Lite out there. I'll sell it for only $800

 

[gunner442]

Damn that's a heart breaker. I just bought a 22/45 and if it showed up unthreaded I'd have been pissed.

Buds is a good company contact them first you might be surprised.

 

[j741]

Use it as an excuse to get a TacSol upper or, even better, their integrally suppressed upper. There are also some companies that sell take-off 22/45 lite uppers. I think around $270 so not quite cheap.

 

[mongoosesnipe]

the tactical solutions uppers wear pretty quick or at least the used to the barrel face is aluminum and gets pounded out of spec with use

 

[j741]

Only $245 for just the threaded Ruger MK IV 22/45 Lite Upper

 

[mongoosesnipe]

now thats a solution i can get behind

Only $245 for just the threaded Ruger MK IV 22/45 Lite Upper

 

[Tyler Kemp]

Only $245 for just the threaded Ruger MK IV 22/45 Lite Upper

Same color as mine...they must replace the weird barrel tension nut thing?

 

[j741]

yeah, I suspect all the 22/45 Lites use a barrel tension nut and Ruger has both a threaded and non-threaded version of the nut. Really sucks they won't sell the nut separately. I'm tempted to just buy the upper but there are also deals to get a full 22/45 Lite for $168 more so seems better to buy a whole pistol.

 

[Frgood]

It makes sense when you look at the barrel. Remembering it is a .22, you'll note that it is barely a tube. When you notice the thinness the barrel, You wonder how it would stay centered in that configuration. At that point, a grommet makes sense as the whip in that 'barrel' would make it useless.

Any attachment to that barrel would bend it into the ground.

 

[packratt]

Ruger has always had a sick ass repair parts policy.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

It makes sense when you look at the barrel. Remembering it is a .22, you'll note that it is barely a tube. When you notice the thinness the barrel, You wonder how it would stay centered in that configuration. At that point, a grommet makes sense as the whip in that 'barrel' would make it useless.

Any attachment to that barrel would bend it into the ground.
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I figured it just flared out at the end. I was wrong.