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Rainer Ultramatch & Rock Creek SPR Testing
12/08/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
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Well I just love testing different AR barrels to see how they perform compared to others I've tested. As most know I am a huge White Oak fan. I have almost every flavor they sell, 10.5", 16", 18" SPR and 20" SDM all 1:7 .223 Wylde. They are all tack drivers!
Over the summer I set out to build a precision 300blk SBR/Pistol. I wanted it to be extremely accurate from 100yd and in for personal protection home/car gun. I have a few buddies that have multiple 300blks and all claimed they are fun guns but not precision guns. I set out to see if I could build a precision 300blk. I went through a few different barrels ranging from $225-$300 and the first few were OK and thats giving more credit than deserved. Thats after testing multiple bullets and powders. I sold each barrel at a loss and the last barrel I decided to try before giving up on the project was a Rainer Ultramatch 10.5" Shillen blank. The barrel is a straight tack driver with 125smk and 125tmk. After shooting 40rd to break in the barrel I did an OCW test with the 125tmk and H110 in 1xLC converted brass and CCI 450's. I settled on 18.6g. I loaded up 40rd and shot a 7x5 target and the agg across these 7 groups was .521"!! I never let the barrel cool, I just shot group after group. Thats from a 300blk SBR at 100yds with a bipod and rear bag. I was extremely pleased with this result so I decided just for fun I wanted to see how far out I can accurately take this setup. The magnetospeed had it at 2100fps so I input the data into Shooter and setup on a IDPA full size piece of steel at 500yds. I went 10 for 10 on the steel. My friends were amazed of the accuracy of this gun.
This is the reason Im itching to try Rainer's Ultramatch barrels to see how the stack up against my White Oaks! I just cant decide if I want to test the 18" Ultramatch SPR or their 20" SDM barrel. I most likely will test out the 20" since I have the most recent data and testing with my 20" WOA SDM to do a side by side comparison with loads. If the the Ultramatch performs great I will probably buy the next barrel down which is their Rock Creek version then the next level down Match version to see how they compare to the Ultramatch. Ordering the barrel today so testing will start in the next few weeks.
Stay tuned...
Build Parts I already have for this upper testing:
BCM Upper Receiver
Spikes NiB Milspec BCG
BCM CH
SLR Sentry 7 AGB
Seekins 15" Keymod Handguard
Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 MIL/MIL
Vortex PMR 35mm Rings
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bigjake83XFirst Sergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
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padom
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
They are actually around $100 cheaper; depending on which you buy. I'm gonna try the 18" Ultramatch SPR Shillen blank under $400
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bigjake83XFirst Sergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Nice.. I'll be watching
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atomic41XSergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Cool, I'm thinking about ordering this exact barrel.
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padom
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016 Last edited 12/08/2016 by padom
Well order has been placed. I went with the 18" Ultramatch SPR. Really happy I ordered it tonight, because upon checkout it applied a $76.85 discount to my order so after expedited shipping total was only $318 instead of just over $400!!! No idea what the discount is. Im going to add the Rock Creek barrel to my cart and try and check out again, if it applies the same crazy discount I will order and test that one also!!
EDIT: Yep, for some reason after adding any of the barrels to your cart a 20% discount is automatically applied!! Time to grab a few to do some testing over the winter months!
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Terryw123X72 MONTHS
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Very cool! I have been wanting to build a AR-15 on a Rainer barrel! I ordered a gen II pst for this exact reason!
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arLPGXCorporal
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016
Thanks for the heads up, padom ! I've been eyeballing a Rainier Ultramatch in 308 to try. The discount saved me $80. Glad to see your results. Hope I get the same.
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Steelhead43XGunny Sergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016 Last edited 12/09/2016 by Steelhead43
I have a SPR 18 ultra match.
At first it was ok.
Then it got Real good.
Very happy with it.
It LOVES 69 & 77 smk's
I can still often get moa 5shot groups even with a 1x4 scope on that rifle.
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lte82XFirst Sergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016 Last edited 12/09/2016 by lte82
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Our team shot Shilen blanks at Camp Perry this year. We came away with multiple national titles, including three individual national records and a team national record. They shoot.
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padom
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/10/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
Well got a call from Rainer last night informing me that the 18" Ultramatch SPR I ordered is out of stock even thought it said 2 In Stock when I ordered!!! GGrrrr
They put my order on backorder till I tell them what I want to do. They have no timeframe when the SPR will be back in stock. I may just have them change it to the 20" Ultramatch Shillen blank so we can get this testing going.
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padom
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/10/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
Well I got a shipping notification without even speaking with them about the out of stock 18" barrel. Shipping email says 18" Ultramatch SPR so maybe they found one.... IDK. Will be here next week!
Also got the 18" Rainer Rock Creek SPR barrel to test. It was hard to turn down with the sale going on. At just over $200 if it hammers it might be the best value out there.
XFirst Sergeant
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Rainer Ultramatch & Rock Creek SPR Testing
12/08/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
(4 votes)
Well I just love testing different AR barrels to see how they perform compared to others I've tested. As most know I am a huge White Oak fan. I have almost every flavor they sell, 10.5", 16", 18" SPR and 20" SDM all 1:7 .223 Wylde. They are all tack drivers!
Over the summer I set out to build a precision 300blk SBR/Pistol. I wanted it to be extremely accurate from 100yd and in for personal protection home/car gun. I have a few buddies that have multiple 300blks and all claimed they are fun guns but not precision guns. I set out to see if I could build a precision 300blk. I went through a few different barrels ranging from $225-$300 and the first few were OK and thats giving more credit than deserved. Thats after testing multiple bullets and powders. I sold each barrel at a loss and the last barrel I decided to try before giving up on the project was a Rainer Ultramatch 10.5" Shillen blank. The barrel is a straight tack driver with 125smk and 125tmk. After shooting 40rd to break in the barrel I did an OCW test with the 125tmk and H110 in 1xLC converted brass and CCI 450's. I settled on 18.6g. I loaded up 40rd and shot a 7x5 target and the agg across these 7 groups was .521"!! I never let the barrel cool, I just shot group after group. Thats from a 300blk SBR at 100yds with a bipod and rear bag. I was extremely pleased with this result so I decided just for fun I wanted to see how far out I can accurately take this setup. The magnetospeed had it at 2100fps so I input the data into Shooter and setup on a IDPA full size piece of steel at 500yds. I went 10 for 10 on the steel. My friends were amazed of the accuracy of this gun.
This is the reason Im itching to try Rainer's Ultramatch barrels to see how the stack up against my White Oaks! I just cant decide if I want to test the 18" Ultramatch SPR or their 20" SDM barrel. I most likely will test out the 20" since I have the most recent data and testing with my 20" WOA SDM to do a side by side comparison with loads. If the the Ultramatch performs great I will probably buy the next barrel down which is their Rock Creek version then the next level down Match version to see how they compare to the Ultramatch. Ordering the barrel today so testing will start in the next few weeks.
Stay tuned...
Build Parts I already have for this upper testing:
BCM Upper Receiver
Spikes NiB Milspec BCG
BCM CH
SLR Sentry 7 AGB
Seekins 15" Keymod Handguard
Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 MIL/MIL
Vortex PMR 35mm Rings
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bigjake83XFirst Sergeant
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Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
padom wrote:
Well I just love testing different AR barrels to see how they perform compared to others I've tested. As most know I am a huge White Oak fan. I have almost every flavor they sell, 10.5", 16", 18" SPR and 20" SDM all 1:7 .223 Wylde. They are all tack drivers!
Over the summer I set out to build a precision 300blk SBR/Pistol. I wanted it to be extremely accurate from 100yd and in for personal protection home/car gun. I have a few buddies that have multiple 300blks and all claimed they are fun guns but not precision guns. I set out to see if I could build a precision 300blk. I went through a few different barrels ranging from $225-$300 and the first few were OK and thats giving more credit than deserved. Thats after testing multiple bullets and powders. I sold each barrel at a loss and the last barrel I decided to try before giving up on the project was a Rainer Ultramatch 10.5" Shillen blank. The barrel is a straight tack driver with 125smk and 125tmk. After shooting 40rd to break in the barrel I did an OCW test with the 125tmk and H110 in 1xLC converted brass and CCI 450's. I settled on 18.6g. I loaded up 40rd and shot a 7x5 target and the agg across these 7 groups was .521"!! I never let the barrel cool, I just shot group after group. Thats from a 300blk SBR at 100yds with a bipod and rear bag. I was extremely pleased with this result so I decided just for fun I wanted to see how far out I can accurately take this setup. The magnetospeed had it at 2100fps so I input the data into Shooter and setup on a IDPA full size piece of steel at 500yds. I went 10 for 10 on the steel. My friends were amazed of the accuracy of this gun.
This is the reason Im itching to try Rainer's Ultramatch barrels to see how the stack up against my White Oaks! I just cant decide if I want to test the 18" Ultramatch SPR or their 20" SDM barrel. I most likely will test out the 20" since I have the most recent data and testing with my 20" WOA SDM to do a side by side comparison with loads. If the the Ultramatch performs great I will probably buy the next barrel down which is their Rock Creek version then the next level down Match version to see how they compare to the Ultramatch. Ordering the barrel today so testing will start in the next few weeks.
Stay tuned...
Build Parts I already have for this upper testing:
BCM Upper Receiver
Spikes NiB Milspec BCG
BCM CH
SLR Sentry 7 AGB
Seekins 15" Keymod Handguard
Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 MIL/MIL
Vortex PMR 35mm Rings
Very interested... I've always wanted to try a Ultra Match, but since they coast. the same as a Bartlein or Krieger I haven't tried them yet..Well I just love testing different AR barrels to see how they perform compared to others I've tested. As most know I am a huge White Oak fan. I have almost every flavor they sell, 10.5", 16", 18" SPR and 20" SDM all 1:7 .223 Wylde. They are all tack drivers!
Over the summer I set out to build a precision 300blk SBR/Pistol. I wanted it to be extremely accurate from 100yd and in for personal protection home/car gun. I have a few buddies that have multiple 300blks and all claimed they are fun guns but not precision guns. I set out to see if I could build a precision 300blk. I went through a few different barrels ranging from $225-$300 and the first few were OK and thats giving more credit than deserved. Thats after testing multiple bullets and powders. I sold each barrel at a loss and the last barrel I decided to try before giving up on the project was a Rainer Ultramatch 10.5" Shillen blank. The barrel is a straight tack driver with 125smk and 125tmk. After shooting 40rd to break in the barrel I did an OCW test with the 125tmk and H110 in 1xLC converted brass and CCI 450's. I settled on 18.6g. I loaded up 40rd and shot a 7x5 target and the agg across these 7 groups was .521"!! I never let the barrel cool, I just shot group after group. Thats from a 300blk SBR at 100yds with a bipod and rear bag. I was extremely pleased with this result so I decided just for fun I wanted to see how far out I can accurately take this setup. The magnetospeed had it at 2100fps so I input the data into Shooter and setup on a IDPA full size piece of steel at 500yds. I went 10 for 10 on the steel. My friends were amazed of the accuracy of this gun.
This is the reason Im itching to try Rainer's Ultramatch barrels to see how the stack up against my White Oaks! I just cant decide if I want to test the 18" Ultramatch SPR or their 20" SDM barrel. I most likely will test out the 20" since I have the most recent data and testing with my 20" WOA SDM to do a side by side comparison with loads. If the the Ultramatch performs great I will probably buy the next barrel down which is their Rock Creek version then the next level down Match version to see how they compare to the Ultramatch. Ordering the barrel today so testing will start in the next few weeks.
Stay tuned...
Build Parts I already have for this upper testing:
BCM Upper Receiver
Spikes NiB Milspec BCG
BCM CH
SLR Sentry 7 AGB
Seekins 15" Keymod Handguard
Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 MIL/MIL
Vortex PMR 35mm Rings
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padom
XFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.8/5 this site
3043 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
They are actually around $100 cheaper; depending on which you buy. I'm gonna try the 18" Ultramatch SPR Shillen blank under $400
Rate now:
bigjake83XFirst Sergeant
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1595 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Nice.. I'll be watching
Rate now:
atomic41XSergeant
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250 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Cool, I'm thinking about ordering this exact barrel.
Rate now:
padom
XFirst Sergeant
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3043 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016 Last edited 12/08/2016 by padom
Well order has been placed. I went with the 18" Ultramatch SPR. Really happy I ordered it tonight, because upon checkout it applied a $76.85 discount to my order so after expedited shipping total was only $318 instead of just over $400!!! No idea what the discount is. Im going to add the Rock Creek barrel to my cart and try and check out again, if it applies the same crazy discount I will order and test that one also!!
EDIT: Yep, for some reason after adding any of the barrels to your cart a 20% discount is automatically applied!! Time to grab a few to do some testing over the winter months!
Rate now:
Terryw123X72 MONTHS
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293 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/08/2016
Very cool! I have been wanting to build a AR-15 on a Rainer barrel! I ordered a gen II pst for this exact reason!
Rate now:
arLPGXCorporal
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62 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016
Thanks for the heads up, padom ! I've been eyeballing a Rainier Ultramatch in 308 to try. The discount saved me $80. Glad to see your results. Hope I get the same.
Rate now:
Steelhead43XGunny Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
668 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016 Last edited 12/09/2016 by Steelhead43
I have a SPR 18 ultra match.
At first it was ok.
Then it got Real good.
Very happy with it.
It LOVES 69 & 77 smk's
I can still often get moa 5shot groups even with a 1x4 scope on that rifle.
Rate now:
lte82XFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.3/5 this site
1044 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/09/2016 Last edited 12/09/2016 by lte82
(1 vote)
Our team shot Shilen blanks at Camp Perry this year. We came away with multiple national titles, including three individual national records and a team national record. They shoot.
Rate now:
padom
XFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.8/5 this site
3043 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/10/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
Well got a call from Rainer last night informing me that the 18" Ultramatch SPR I ordered is out of stock even thought it said 2 In Stock when I ordered!!! GGrrrr
They put my order on backorder till I tell them what I want to do. They have no timeframe when the SPR will be back in stock. I may just have them change it to the 20" Ultramatch Shillen blank so we can get this testing going.
Rate now:
padom
XFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.8/5 this site
3043 posts this site
Re: Rainer Ultramatch AR Barrel Testing
12/10/2016 Last edited 12/10/2016 by padom
Well I got a shipping notification without even speaking with them about the out of stock 18" barrel. Shipping email says 18" Ultramatch SPR so maybe they found one.... IDK. Will be here next week!
Also got the 18" Rainer Rock Creek SPR barrel to test. It was hard to turn down with the sale going on. At just over $200 if it hammers it might be the best value out there.
