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Hiders,

I've been getting bits and pieces of the CA issue and I know of some unhappy folks; I also know of some folks that are happy with the scope.

We are getting in the G2DMR models this upcoming week.

At any rate, I will add to the website under new products tonight. Don't forget yer HIDE10

Thanks,

Scott
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

I am keeping my nightforce...
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Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rksimple</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am keeping my nightforce...
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That goes along with my general scope advice...

"If you're not shooting a Nightforce, you're taking chances."</div></div>

My thinking on nightforce is when they finally decide to put out more than ONE FFP scope I might consider them. Otherwise they are behind the field. Just my 2cents.

On edit... Sorry for veering of track Scott, just get tired of hearing nightforce this nightforce that. When I truly feel they are way behind in the FFP tactical scope field.
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Scott, do you have any insite as to if/when Bushy will be releasing the HDMR with 10 mil/rev knobs? I sold my GB scope in hopes that the 10 mil units would be out soon.

Thanks
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am keeping my nightforce...
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I agree with Boone. This is a direct CoC violation.... off topic, thread derail. Classic troll move.

John
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Sorry , Realy wasnt trying to be a Dick or mess up this thread, NOT TO SMART NOW THAT I SEE HOW IT LOOKS. I call on scott for Optics when I am looking so I am not working any angles. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrob300</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am keeping my nightforce...
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I agree with Boone. This is a direct CoC violation.... off topic, thread derail. Classic troll move.

John </div></div>
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry , Realy wasnt trying to be a Dick, NOT TO SMART NOW THAT I SEE HOW IT LOOKS. I call on scott for Optics when I am looking so I am not working any angles. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrob300</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ASM1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am keeping my nightforce...
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I agree with Boone. This is a direct CoC violation.... off topic, thread derail. Classic troll move.

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Thanks for clarifying... no worries. I jumped to conclusions..

John
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Sorry Boone, Your correct NXS has not place in this thread, I should have just STFU and Not posted at all, it was a stupid MOVE on my part. not Knowing how I ment it leaves alot of room to wonder what I ment, from the threads I read on the Forums about the CS issue The elite have , I ment by my post I would just stay with what I have(NXS), I was/am a customer also and intrested in the bushnell, No Harm ment,But looks as if its done anyway.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. Night force is not the only game in town by far.

2. Why are y'all taking a shit in a guys thread. This has nothing to do with NF. </div></div>
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Thanks for the feedback fellas. Believe me, if someone mentioning another scope make in my thread is the worst thing that happens to me, I am doing well. Caveat: When same is done by a competing dealer, now that is as low as it gets.

Carry on!

Scott
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

If a relatively small number (say, less than 15%) of the HDMR scopes have a chromatic aberration problem, then you might develop your own QC process to weed them out before shipping to customers and charge an extra $10 (or whatever). If people know that you weed out the ones with a CA issue, they won't hesitate to buy one because of the problem.
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nutzkicker617</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know if Bushnell will be planning on releasing a MOA style turret/reticle?</div></div>

That would be freaking awesome if they did!
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cummins cowboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tell them to make a 30 mm model and add a zero stop, then tell bushnell to get back to us. </div></div>

Why would you prefer a 30mm tube to the 34mm tube?

I mean others may be putting more elevation into a 30mm tube, but unless you just can't fathom spending a little more cash for some of the 34mm mounts, i can't really see an argument for either.

I imagine it's a matter of preference, but since the HDMRs all have hold-over based reticles the elevation max difference between other high end 30mm scopes and the HDMR is essentially a moot point as far as my needs are concerned.

The zero stop would be nice, but i've never owned a scope with it yet so i'm still in ignorance bliss over that feature.
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

All Bushnell really has to do to finish off the scope is partially illuminate the reticle. I remember early when the scope was first announced that they tried to illuminate it but had problems and decided to leave it with lights out. Illuminate say 2 mils in each direction leaving the wind holds alone should ease the implantation but aid in low light, don't know scope designs so don't go flaming me for it. A zero stop would be nice but with the reticle I don't believe its completely necessary.

Flyingbullseye
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CajunAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cummins cowboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tell them to make a 30 mm model and add a zero stop, then tell bushnell to get back to us. </div></div>

Why would you prefer a 30mm tube to the 34mm tube?

I mean others may be putting more elevation into a 30mm tube, but unless you just can't fathom spending a little more cash for some of the 34mm mounts, i can't really see an argument for either.

I imagine it's a matter of preference, but since the HDMRs all have hold-over based reticles the elevation max difference between other high end 30mm scopes and the HDMR is essentially a moot point as far as my needs are concerned.

The zero stop would be nice, but i've never owned a scope with it yet so i'm still in ignorance bliss over that feature. </div></div>

because I don't need anymore than 30mm, I like the 30mm rings and lighter weight of the 30mm tube. the extra elevation in my current rig 243 ai shooting @3150, the 20 extra MOA of travel takes me from 1700 yards to 1900 yards, neither distance I plan to shoot at and the extra 200 yards at that range means nothing to me, in all honesty not many of us around here have a true need for a 34 mm tube on anything.
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

30mm tubes are not necessarily lighter. Ever pick up a USO? The larger tube also doesn't mean it will have more travel. The SS 5-20 and the Weaver 3-15 EDMR both have over 30 mils of travel and are both 30mm besting the 34mm HDMR.

Flyingbullseye
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Yeah the point wasn't that the HDMR's 34mm tube gives you anything over ANY 30mm tubes out there...there are a ton of 30mm's with more travel.

But the primary one that I chose against was the NF NXS 5x22 and it has 100 MOA of elevation vs the ~89 MOA of the HDMR, but that 11 extra MOA wasn't a deal breaker/winner for me because i just preferred to check out the HDMR.

Other than that weight/rings/turrets are all just a "what you prefer" at this stage of the game and i don't really think there are winners/losers...and ESPECIALLY not due to tube size alone.

that was my only point, more academic questioning really, i don't really have a care either way was just wondering your reasoning
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Glad to see another vendor carrying them! I've seen a bunch of guys running these at matches. Looks like a helluva scope! Everyone I've talked to has very positive comments.

Just curious:

Are these scopes g2g in rain ?
Are the clicks generally repeatable and solid? They aren't mushy, right?
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

I love mine! as a matter of fact I'm debating if I should get a 2nd one with the gap reticle instead of H59 for my soon to order GAP-10!!
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dvdt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to see another vendor carrying them! I've seen a bunch of guys running these at matches. Looks like a helluva scope! Everyone I've talked to has very positive comments.

Just curious:

Are these scopes g2g in rain ?
Are the clicks generally repeatable and solid? They aren't mushy, right?
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Yes, g2g in rain (check out http://www.bushnell.com/rainguard/)

yes, the turrets are g2g as well. there isn't a loud click, but they are solid and you know when you change them. you can then lock them in place and leave it alone!
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

Scott,
I am easily confused... I don't see the scope on your site, and I can't find anything other than a picture of the G2DMR reticle on Bushnell's site. While it is an interesting looking reticle, it sure would be nice to know what the reticle subtensions are. Am I missing something, or is Bushnell throwing these scopes into the market ahead of getting the supporting documentation published?

Cheers,

DC
 
Re: So what's the verdict on the HDMR? Buy or sell?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DC Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,
I am easily confused... I don't see the scope on your site, and I can't find anything other than a picture of the G2DMR reticle on Bushnell's site. While it is an interesting looking reticle, it sure would be nice to know what the reticle subtensions are. Am I missing something, or is Bushnell throwing these scopes into the market ahead of getting the supporting documentation published?

Cheers,

DC </div></div> If you go to the Liberty Optics homepage and click "New Products" on the left hand side you will see it.

For reticle measurements, I believe someone put them on some pictures in this thread. Can't see the pictures at work but I believe this is the correct thread.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...rue#Post3192712