Shipping Loaded Ammo

[Gnzrme]

Need to ship about 550 rounds of 308 and 100 rounds of 40 S&W. I know that it cannot go USPS, but I see something in UPS's site about individuals not able to ship HazMat items.

Can I ship loaded ammo and do I declair it or just risk it.

Suggestions....?

 

[Pusher591]

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Suggestions....post in the correct section....just busting balls man, welcome to the Hide.

I know I shouldn't but I've done it both ways. Probably be better now days to pay the Haz-Mat fee. Last thing gun owners need now days is somebody shipping ammo and something happen to an innocent carrier. I'm sure it will happen sooner or later and the restrictions will get worse and cost us more

 

[Rob01]

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You can ship loaded ammo through UPS without a problem but go to a hub and not a UPS store. No hazmat fee needed. Just mark it: ORM-D Catridges, Small Arms. I ship my ammo to every match.

 

[gose]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can ship loaded ammo through UPS without a problem but go to a hub and not a UPS store. No hazmat fee needed. Just mark it: ORM-D Catridges, Small Arms. I ship my ammo to every match. </div></div>

That's really annoying.. you used to be able to ship from pretty much any UPS store, but now you have to go to a hub. Same thing with Fedex.. I guess both companies changed their policies some time last/this year?

 

[Rob01]

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UPS stores are privately owned and haven't taken anything gun related for years. Never tried to send ammo through them though as I have a hub a couple towns over.

 

[Gnzrme]

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Ok thanks for the info Rob. I have one not to far from me.

 

[19Scout77]

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As of 2 days ago, my local fed ex hub WILL NOT ship ammo without approved paperwork (what fed ex calls "dangerous goods"). UPS is still GTG.

 

[bohem]

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The USPS will ship loaded ammo without any special licensure.

Get the blue ORM-D label (you can print the image from online) and tape it to the box.

It costs a little extra, but it isn't all that expensive.

http://www.type03.net/ammo/ORM-D.jpg

 

[sinister]

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ORM-D (Other restricted materials - D) is going away as of the end of 2013. It is being replaced by Explosives "1.4S" (Packed so as not to hinder nearby firefighters, moderate fire hazard, no blast or fragment).

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/orm-d/

"The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Title 49 Part 171.8 defines a Consumer Commodity and those items with exceptions provided in the 172.101 table, of limited quantity, and conforming to the definition of "Consumer Commodity" may be marked and sent ORM-D.

There are weight and volume restrictions for all ORM-D packages which vary by hazard class. For example, a gallon of a Class 3 flammable liquid PGII cannot be reclassified as ORM-D because it exceeds the limited quantity volume. However, a gallon of a Class 6, PGIII material is within the volume criteria for a Limited Quantity. That gallon can then be labeled as an ORM-D if it meets the definition of a substance that can be converted from a Limited Quantity to an ORM-D.

It is impossible to have an ORM-D that does not fit the criteria for a Limited Quantity. First an item is determined to be a Limited Quantity, and then it is determined if it can be reclassified further to become an ORM-D. If the item is able to be reclassified as ORM-D the proper shipping name is usually, but not always, "Consumer Commodity" as found in the 172.101 table. Other proper shipping names used for ORM-D material are Cartridges Small Arms and Cartridges Power Device. These products will no longer fall under one of the 9 hazard classes either, its "Hazard Class or Division" is now defined as "ORM-D."

Material marked "ORM-D" and shipped by surface transportation does not require hazardous shipping papers, simply an ORM-D and proper shipping name marking on the box. This marking can either be in the form of a ORM-D sticker, or written by hand. If written by hand the letters "ORM-D" must be enclosed by a rectangle. When transported by air, ORM-D shipments require an ORM-D-AIR marking and full hazardous shipping papers.

Both UPS Ground and FedEx Ground do not require a hazardous shipping contract to ship ORM-D packages except to Alaska and Hawaii."

 

[eracer]

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"Other proper shipping names used for ORM-D material are Cartridges Small Arms and Cartridges Power Device. These products will no longer fall under one of the 9 hazard classes either, its "Hazard Class or Division" is now defined as "ORM-D."


Are the above sentences actually written in English? Because they make no sense to me whatsoever - even in the context of the rest of the declaration.

I must be getting senile.

 

[Chris@InterstateGuns]

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Bring it to UPS and slap a "orm-d" sticker on it. That's how we ship.

 

[wadebrown]

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The local UPS stores do not allow me to drop off ORMD packages and some are owned by UPS and some are private and the hub is a hassle to get to. So I asked a UPS driver if he could pick up a ORMD package for delivery from my doorstep and he said yes. So if I want to ship loaded ammo I slap an ORMD sticker up and arrange online for a domestic pickup and pay a small fee. Print the label off on my printer tape it on and all is good.

I just put the package on the frontstep and a note on the door to pick the package up if I am gone when they are supposed to show. When I come back the package is gone and it arrives as it should at the desired destination.

The people at the counter for the majority of the shippers as less well trained than the drivers. The drivers have to be aware of all of the different package types and warnings. They can not decide what they can take (within reason), the safest thing to do for a poorly trained person at the counter is to just say no, I imagine they are paid by the hour and saying no pays as much as saying yes.

wade

 

[Gnzrme]

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Thanks guys... I have a good relationship with my local driver... He would probaby pick up a package from me....