Rifle Scopes Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
- Thread starter Bunnyack
- Start date
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
The Accupoint only has 40 MOA (160 clicks per Trijicon) of total internal adjustment, so I don't think that will get you there (even with a 20MOA base). I love these scopes, but they are just not designed for long rang shooting. Also the reticle is pretty thick so depending on your target you may have trouble seeing 1-1.5 MOA targets beyond 200.
I just purchased a NF NXS 2.5-10 and it is a superior target and tactical scope, thought I think I still prefer the Accupoint for hunting.
The Accupoint only has 40 MOA (160 clicks per Trijicon) of total internal adjustment, so I don't think that will get you there (even with a 20MOA base). I love these scopes, but they are just not designed for long rang shooting. Also the reticle is pretty thick so depending on your target you may have trouble seeing 1-1.5 MOA targets beyond 200.
I just purchased a NF NXS 2.5-10 and it is a superior target and tactical scope, thought I think I still prefer the Accupoint for hunting.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
40 MOA will get you to 1000 yd, but like he said, the reticles looks to be pretty thick. You don't see too many guys using these bc it's more of a hunting or combat scope. If your shooting paper and don't have a NF budget, look into the Vortex PST or Bushnell 4200 line.
40 MOA will get you to 1000 yd, but like he said, the reticles looks to be pretty thick. You don't see too many guys using these bc it's more of a hunting or combat scope. If your shooting paper and don't have a NF budget, look into the Vortex PST or Bushnell 4200 line.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
I have Accupoint TR24G, green triangle reticle. 100 yards is no problem.
Also have Nightforce, 2.5-10x32. It's new so I just sighted it in last week at 100 yards.
I'm shooting AR type rifle.
I have Accupoint TR24G, green triangle reticle. 100 yards is no problem.
Also have Nightforce, 2.5-10x32. It's new so I just sighted it in last week at 100 yards.
I'm shooting AR type rifle.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ronas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have Accupoint TR24G, green triangle reticle. 100 yards is no problem. </div></div>
I'm pretty sure he was thinking past 100
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ronas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have Accupoint TR24G, green triangle reticle. 100 yards is no problem. </div></div>
I'm pretty sure he was thinking past 100
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm pretty sure he was thinking past 100 </div></div>
Oops I missed that extra 0. No I've not shoot it anywhere near 1000 yards. I would think it would be difficult.
Accupoint is a both eyes open type scope so it's good for close up shooting and knowing what is going on around you at the same time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm pretty sure he was thinking past 100 </div></div>
Oops I missed that extra 0. No I've not shoot it anywhere near 1000 yards. I would think it would be difficult.
Accupoint is a both eyes open type scope so it's good for close up shooting and knowing what is going on around you at the same time.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
I have a 5-20x50mm Accupoint mounted on my Savage 10FP in .308 and love it. I regularly shoot out to 800m (880yards) and have no problems hitting a head sized target. Glass is on par with Nightforce and Mark4 but the reticle is a little thick. I have it mounted on a 20moa Farrel base but I am only using 30.5moa to get to 1000 yards. I picked mine up for half the cost of the Nightforce and am very happy with it. I have compared it directly to the Nightforce, Mark 4, Millet LRS-1 and a Hendsolt. It was clearer with better resolution than the Nightforce and Millet, very close to the Mark4 and nothing compared to the Hendsolt!! Eye relief is excellent, turrets are AMAZING, and the illuminated dot is very tiny and easy to use, the mildots and lines are a little thick but very easy to see.
I have a 5-20x50mm Accupoint mounted on my Savage 10FP in .308 and love it. I regularly shoot out to 800m (880yards) and have no problems hitting a head sized target. Glass is on par with Nightforce and Mark4 but the reticle is a little thick. I have it mounted on a 20moa Farrel base but I am only using 30.5moa to get to 1000 yards. I picked mine up for half the cost of the Nightforce and am very happy with it. I have compared it directly to the Nightforce, Mark 4, Millet LRS-1 and a Hendsolt. It was clearer with better resolution than the Nightforce and Millet, very close to the Mark4 and nothing compared to the Hendsolt!! Eye relief is excellent, turrets are AMAZING, and the illuminated dot is very tiny and easy to use, the mildots and lines are a little thick but very easy to see.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
Turrets are amazing?
I had the scope, didn't like the limited elevation range (if you have 40 total MOA, when the reticle is centered, you have 20 up and 20 down. "If" the reticle is centered when you mount to a 20MOA base, you are bottomed out on elevation - and that causes problems with windage adjustment as well as possible problems with elevation. FYI.)
Though the turrets were entirely serviceable, they weren't what I'd call amazing. The reticle is thick, the illumination can be dialed back and doesn't bloom in any lighting condition I found, head position at high magnification is critical (as with most 20X optics), and build quality seemed good. Optics are good for the price point (but they are just as good in the newer Sightron S3s) and for night use, it's hard to beat Trijicon.
This is not a 1,000 yard optic.
Stick with Nightforce, you will not be disappointed.
Turrets are amazing?
I had the scope, didn't like the limited elevation range (if you have 40 total MOA, when the reticle is centered, you have 20 up and 20 down. "If" the reticle is centered when you mount to a 20MOA base, you are bottomed out on elevation - and that causes problems with windage adjustment as well as possible problems with elevation. FYI.)
Though the turrets were entirely serviceable, they weren't what I'd call amazing. The reticle is thick, the illumination can be dialed back and doesn't bloom in any lighting condition I found, head position at high magnification is critical (as with most 20X optics), and build quality seemed good. Optics are good for the price point (but they are just as good in the newer Sightron S3s) and for night use, it's hard to beat Trijicon.
This is not a 1,000 yard optic.
Stick with Nightforce, you will not be disappointed.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snipedogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">40 MOA will get you to 1000 yd, but like he said, the reticles looks to be pretty thick. You don't see too many guys using these bc it's more of a hunting or combat scope. If your shooting paper and don't have a NF budget, look into the Vortex PST or Bushnell 4200 line.</div></div>
Will the two of those scopes keep zero on a .300WM?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snipedogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">40 MOA will get you to 1000 yd, but like he said, the reticles looks to be pretty thick. You don't see too many guys using these bc it's more of a hunting or combat scope. If your shooting paper and don't have a NF budget, look into the Vortex PST or Bushnell 4200 line.</div></div>
Will the two of those scopes keep zero on a .300WM?
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
You have to remember that most long range shooters have 20 or 30 moa bases. With my 178g .308 I have NO problem getting out to 1000 yards with a 10mph wind. Trijicon also had the US military contract before Nightforce did and while the accupoint line is not the same military grade as the ACOG, they still know how to build an optic. The turrets are definately on par with Nightforce and my only complaint is the reticle thickness. But it was also 60% of the cost of a Nightforce. You can almost by two for the cost of the nightforce.
You have to remember that most long range shooters have 20 or 30 moa bases. With my 178g .308 I have NO problem getting out to 1000 yards with a 10mph wind. Trijicon also had the US military contract before Nightforce did and while the accupoint line is not the same military grade as the ACOG, they still know how to build an optic. The turrets are definately on par with Nightforce and my only complaint is the reticle thickness. But it was also 60% of the cost of a Nightforce. You can almost by two for the cost of the nightforce.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
A 40MOA scope is not compatible with a 30MOA base, and shouldn't be run on a 20MOA base.
Your money, your choice, but it probably will lead to frustration.
A 40MOA scope is not compatible with a 30MOA base, and shouldn't be run on a 20MOA base.
Your money, your choice, but it probably will lead to frustration.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. The measurement of 20moa and 30 moa refers to the slope of the rail. Why exactly would they not be compatible? I have the Accupoint mounted on a 20 MOA Farrel base and it works perfectly. I am currently shooting under 1/3 moa at 220 yards and consistently making hits at 700 and 800 meters (880yards) It seem like you may not understand what you are posting about. Rather than providing incorrect info, maybe you shouldnt post about stuff unless you know or have experience.
Please explain how you come to that conclusion. The measurement of 20moa and 30 moa refers to the slope of the rail. Why exactly would they not be compatible? I have the Accupoint mounted on a 20 MOA Farrel base and it works perfectly. I am currently shooting under 1/3 moa at 220 yards and consistently making hits at 700 and 800 meters (880yards) It seem like you may not understand what you are posting about. Rather than providing incorrect info, maybe you shouldnt post about stuff unless you know or have experience.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
ps
My Accupoint has 51moa of vertical adjustment and with the 20moa base it still has 14moa down. I agree you are probably right about the 30moa base, but the 300 win mag should require significantly less moa at the same distance all the way up to the 208 amax.
ps
My Accupoint has 51moa of vertical adjustment and with the 20moa base it still has 14moa down. I agree you are probably right about the 30moa base, but the 300 win mag should require significantly less moa at the same distance all the way up to the 208 amax.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
Well, Rancid did own one and later sold his Trijicon here on the Hide.
In practice, my Trijicon has 51 moa of elevation as well and I have about 11.5 MOA of "down" left after mounting on a 20 MOA base.
Looking at the ballistic tables I have for my various chronied 300 Win Mag loads, I agree the Accupoint should be able to cut it for the lighter bullets and should even work for my slowest load the 220 SMK which requires 31 MOA, assuming no non-linearity.
For any slower rifle I would definitely agree it is a most likely not. I consider it a medium range scope because of this.
Well, Rancid did own one and later sold his Trijicon here on the Hide.
In practice, my Trijicon has 51 moa of elevation as well and I have about 11.5 MOA of "down" left after mounting on a 20 MOA base.
Looking at the ballistic tables I have for my various chronied 300 Win Mag loads, I agree the Accupoint should be able to cut it for the lighter bullets and should even work for my slowest load the 220 SMK which requires 31 MOA, assuming no non-linearity.
For any slower rifle I would definitely agree it is a most likely not. I consider it a medium range scope because of this.
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
When your elevation is bottomed out, your windage is severely limited, which is not a good thing.
Warwick, you failed to mention your zero - which is the primary factor in this discussion. It's really great that you can shoot out 800 yards and beyond and hit head-sized targets, congratulations.
My particular scope had 48MOA total, which means it is at the very edge of being able to get a 100 yard zero on a 20MOA base. My scope could not be zeroed (nor could yours) at relatively short range on a 30MOA base, they'd be completely bottomed out. On a 30MOA base and a 600 yard zero, no problem. NOt many zero at 600 yards.
So, as I said before, this scope is not compatible with a 30MOA base, and a 20MOA base might work, and it might not.
As for the 11 posts and knowledge of all things, we'll chalk that up to being young and stupid and ask that you check you fire in the future before bending over and showing your ass whilst thinking you have caused someone else to do the same.
"And the boat sailed smoothly on."
When your elevation is bottomed out, your windage is severely limited, which is not a good thing.
Warwick, you failed to mention your zero - which is the primary factor in this discussion. It's really great that you can shoot out 800 yards and beyond and hit head-sized targets, congratulations.
My particular scope had 48MOA total, which means it is at the very edge of being able to get a 100 yard zero on a 20MOA base. My scope could not be zeroed (nor could yours) at relatively short range on a 30MOA base, they'd be completely bottomed out. On a 30MOA base and a 600 yard zero, no problem. NOt many zero at 600 yards.
So, as I said before, this scope is not compatible with a 30MOA base, and a 20MOA base might work, and it might not.
As for the 11 posts and knowledge of all things, we'll chalk that up to being young and stupid and ask that you check you fire in the future before bending over and showing your ass whilst thinking you have caused someone else to do the same.
"And the boat sailed smoothly on."
Re: Trijicon accupoint at long range...?
Im sorry, i know this is an old thread... Stumbled upon it this am researching what the hide thinks of accupoint... ^ reply just brightened my morning...putting the incorrectly outspoken in their place puts a smile on my face, ontop of learning how a steep angled base affects a scope with minimal internal adjustment. Thanks-
Im sorry, i know this is an old thread... Stumbled upon it this am researching what the hide thinks of accupoint... ^ reply just brightened my morning...putting the incorrectly outspoken in their place puts a smile on my face, ontop of learning how a steep angled base affects a scope with minimal internal adjustment. Thanks-
