Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

[Kubitza123]

I am going to sell my P415 POF 18" upper due to I want to lose some weight.

I'm curious if anyone has seen or used the Noveske Rogue Hunter 16" or Adam Arms Ultralight Evo piston upper?

Those both are 4.1-4.5 lbs and the best I can find as far as what I think would be a good fit and finish and accurate.

Which one do you guys think? I know where the Evo can be had $899 new and cant find a Noveske like that for sale anywhere?

Any better options as light or lighter with forends etc setup like these ?

 

[BCP]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

Build one? These things are like legos it's not difficult.

 

[Mil.Dot]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

What BCP said . . .

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Build one? These things are like legos it's not difficult. </div></div>

How accurate? lightweight and accurate are inversely related. If it was me, I would maximize accuracy with a Noveske Recon or Afghan or BCM (or similar) SS barrel and save weight on the handguard (like a Noveske NSR or Midwest Industries Gen 2 tube).

The Noveske should be pretty good, contact a few Noveske retailers. Brian from Werner Arms (Hide screen name jakhamr81) can probably help you out.

I just got a Rogue Hunter in 14.5 (upper sub 4lbs, complete rifle 6.1 lbs without optic), just depends on what you want for specifics (length, barrel material). I didn't build this one myself, because I could not get just the barrel.


If lightweight is more important than maximizing accuracy . . .
There aren't too many lightweight stainless barrels around, but you can get lightweight, chromelined barrels that are still quite accurate, like BCM/DD/Noveske's hammer forged lightweight.

Couple other options - Superior barrels (stainless, $450) and AR15performance ($190) have lightweight nitrided barrels that are supposedly sub-MOA.

Rainier uses DD barrels and can swap in a lightweight barrel
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1722, should be about 4.2 pounds and good accuracy.

 

[BCP]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

AR15performance barrels are accurate. If (when) I build another 16" 223 carbine it will have one of their lightweight barrels. 1:8, wylde chamber, nitrided, 190$, hard to say no to that.

 

[Kubitza123]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

I know I could build one just rather buy one that's of quality that's ready to rip complete and I'll know the weight from the get go.

I think I'm gonna go with the Adams Arms piston Ultralite Evo since I found one for $899 only 80 miles away from me new. Reviews seem to be very good on it. Love to have the Noveske but none in stock anywhere. I check on the Rainer CE 16 it's light but he said the Adams Arms is a better and more accurate upper for not much more.

I'll let you guys know how it shoots after I get it since its the lightest piston upper built.

 

[B4forever]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

I haven't done it yet but I plan to test the accuracy difference between an 18" Noveske SPR and a 18" Noveske lightweight(NST profile) barrels. I run the spr and my teammate runs the lightwight, and besides barrel profile our setups are exactly the same. I will say though...the nst transitions VERY well for an 18" barrel.

 

[Kubitza123]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

Well I just found lefty Noverske light weight 4lb Rogue Hunter so may pick it up instead.

 

[chalwie]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

I have a custom built Noveske 12.5 inch Rogue Hunter with stainless barrel, from the factory. It is the most accurate AR I own. The turnaround shipped was less than 2 weeks. You will not be dissappointed with Noveske accuracy.

 

[Mil.Dot]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B4forever</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I haven't done it yet but I plan to test the accuracy difference between an 18" Noveske SPR and a 18" Noveske lightweight(NST profile) barrels. I run the spr and my teammate runs the lightwight, and besides barrel profile our setups are exactly the same. I will say though...the nst transitions VERY well for an 18" barrel. </div></div>

Please post up your results when you have them. There are some reports of the lighter weight profiles being less accurate, so I will be curious to see what you find. If I recall correctly, the difference was not due to barrel heat.

I recently saw an lightweight 18 with 16" NSR that looked nice.

 

[Kubitza123]

Re: Lightweight accurate uppers , which one?

I will post some results once I get it, from what I've read either upper still shoots under 1" , guess we will see.

 

[aarondomin]

Noveske NST vs SPR Weight vs. Accuracy

I will post some results once I get it, from what I've read either upper still shoots under 1" , guess we will see.

Just wondering if you ever did the side by side accuracy tests talked about. I'm very interested as I'm torn between the two barrels myself. Do we buy the SPR (thicker contour) if we want to sit in the brush and have a little better accuracy. Or is the accuracy so close that it's a no brainer and you buy the NST since it's a couple ounces (I think 6oz.) lighter. Every ounce counts if you have to walk a long ways, right?

Any thoughts here on weight vs. accuracy in general guys. I just don't know that it's realistic thinking that we'll see a day in our lifetime where we'll have to walk all day long with a stick and backpack, but that might be naive, might en it?

 

[aarondomin]

I think I better make clear that I'm talking about the two different 18" barrel contours offered for Noveske. The NST 18" light contour stainless, and the SPR heavier contour 18" stainless Please read the post above as there are several questions in it. I implore our senior members who have seen good times and bad to leave their feedback. Please don't post if all you have to say is "NST is the way to go man"! Looking for opinion from 3 gunners, men who have seen battle, and men who have pulled the triggers on these two rifles. Thanks ever so much in advance for taking the time to educate.