Need some input

[L2bravo]

Hey guys, I've recently aquired a .270 Remington 700. It's a really clean gun, with a round count of less than a hundred rounds. I need some input, and opinions on a project I've got in mind for it. As well as some input on the .270.

I don't want to spend a ton of money on it. So I am thinking about using a Choate drop in stock for it. I've read pretty decent things about them. Are they a decent budget chassis?

As far as scope mounting...Is it neccesary to get the reciever drilled to the 8/40 holes? Does it really make it that much more solid? Or is it not needed?

What I am really wondering, is about the performance of the .270. I understand that it isn't the first pick for a true long range round, and that there are better choices, but it is what I have at the moment. That said, how decent will this be at the 500 yard range? How bad does the .270 hit the wall?

I am pretty new to long range shooting, as I have spent a lot of my past years in the AR game. I appreciate the input, and the knowledge that so many of you guys bring. Thanks again, Josh

 

[jonbearman]

Re: Need some input

I think you would be better served by an HS Precision take off stock,preferably the PSS stock.The choste is solid but it weighs a ton,6-8 #'s of dead weight.If you are shooting off a bi-pod and move from place to place,lugging that choate all by itself with noting in it is quite a chore.Your other question about 500 yard shooting,you will be fine with the .270 for hitting targets.As a game getter,it is a good choice.I dont know what the limit is on an efficient kill at long distance.I would google that to be sure.The .270 will spit a bullet of 140grain class to 3000fps with load development and maybe exceed that slightly. In closing I would get that hs precision and scrap that choate idea.

 

[fdkay]

Re: Need some input

A couple of things:

Finding a "PSS" take off stock is much harder for the long action since the only "PSS" long action is the 300 WM.

It hasn't been called the "PSS" for many years, it is now the 700P.
You MIGHT be able to find a long action 700P or 5R stock.

They are far better stocks than the Choate.

That being said, the choate tactical is a very good stock, they are rock solid with many good features and they are very reasonably priced.

I would suggest the B&C M40 stock, they make it for the long action, it is lighter than the Choate, it is very well and around the same price as the Choate.

For bullets, look at the new Berger 140 grain VLD

 

[JB02]

Re: Need some input

A 270 Win is a fantastic hunting rifle. Perfect any type of deer or antelope. The reason many hunters choose this chambering is because of its flat trajectory. This rifle will easily be lethal to any game smaller than an elk at 500 yds.

The 270 is not a magnum cartridge, and I don't believe it's necessary to put in 8x40 screws.

Stock wise, I would go with either a B&C or HS precision stock that has an aluminum bedding block. I presume that the barrel has a sporter contour (muzzle end ~ 0.7" or less)? If so, make sure the stock you are getting has a sporter barrel inlet. If you get one with a sendero inlet, it will perform fine but look a little odd sitting in the wide barrel channel (not too bad though).

Performance wise, the 270 lacks the knockdown power of magnum chamberings (300 Win Mag/7mm Rem Mag/300 WSM/7mm WSM/270 WSM). Many hunters prefer bullets >180gr for elk and larger sized game, for which the 300 Win Mag and 30-06 are ideal. Magnum chamberings aside, the 280 Remington and 284 Winchester have better ballistic performance.

Neither Hornady, Berger, or Nosler make heavy match bullets for the 270 Win (plenty of choices for hunting bullets). Sierra makes a 135gr Match King, which I presume are challenging to find.

Let's compare the following (all have same DA of ~ 0.08 lb/ft^3):
270 Win with 135gr SMK at 3000 fps
280 Rem with 162gr AMAX at 2700 fps
284 Win with 162gr AMAX at 2800 fps
30-06 with 208gr AMAX at 2650 fps

Not surprisingly, you can understand why 284 Win has gained so much popularity among target and tactical shooters. It's drift is right on line with a 30-06 shooting a heavy, hard hitting bullet. Even though it uses the 308 style .473" bolt face, it has a fatter case (rebated rim) and can be used in a 300 Win Mag AICS magazine. A 30-06 case is slimmer and the AICS mags need to have the feed lips modified.

The primary advantage of the 30-06, as shown below, is that it packs more punch. If you're only punching paper or steel, that doesn't matter so much. If you're after a moose or a bear, perhaps it makes a difference.

In any event, the 270 holds its own, but it doesn't dominate any category. Note that at 500 yards, you cannot really tell the difference between any of these cartridges ballistically; 270 doesn't really diverge until ~ 700-800 yds. It doesn't go transonic until ~ 1200 yds, which is about the same as the other chamberings.

A major advantage of the 270 is availability of hunting ammo. Very easy to get. However, if you're on a hunting trip, try finding some 284 Win ammo at the local store, LOL!