F T/R Competition 243 questions

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How is this caliber for short range compition?
1 to 300 yards mainly..What barrel twist is the
better choice and bullet weight ? etc
Thinking I might want to try it this summer.
Thanks for any comments...Also will I be
better with a blued barrel versus stainless..
And how about barrel weight.Will a bull barrel
be more accurate than say,a heavy varmit one..
 
Have you considered a 6mmBR. It will have dramatically longer barrel life and is very easy to load for. Also burns a lot less powder, which saves you much $$$. I have one in a 1:8 twist which stabilizes everything from light to 105 grains. It especially likes 80 gr Berger Match bullets over Varget for sub 1/4 moa groups (if I am shooting well)

Mike
 
Have you considered a 6mmBR. It will have dramatically longer barrel life and is very easy to load for. Also burns a lot less powder, which saves you much $$$. I have one in a 1:8 twist which stabilizes everything from light to 105 grains. It especially likes 80 gr Berger Match bullets over Varget for sub 1/4 moa groups (if I am shooting well)

Mike
So whats it gonna cost me to get a barrel-dies-brass and bullets ? when with the 243 all I did to do is buy the barrel..And the way things are going,I would probably not even be able to get all I need to get shooting? Idea's welcome
 
Have you considered a 6mmBR. It will have dramatically longer barrel life and is very easy to load for. Also burns a lot less powder, which saves you much $$$. I have one in a 1:8 twist which stabilizes everything from light to 105 grains. It especially likes 80 gr Berger Match bullets over Varget for sub 1/4 moa groups (if I am shooting well

Mike

+1 get a 6br or a dasher
 
The availability of dies is very much a function of their popularity. You may not be able to get dies for .223, .308 and so on, but 6mmBR are readily available, I just checked at MidwayUSA. It will cost you between $100 and $200 or more for those dies, depending on the brand and model.

As for brass, the same thing occurs there. At PVI, you can get Lapua 6mmBR for $82/100. They also have .243 Win for $92/100. The other brands appear to be backordered for .243 Winchester.

So, definitely a 6br or Dasher or something similar will be easier to obtain.

As stated earlier, the straight .243 Winchester is a barrel burner and if you plan to get into F-Open in a proper way, you need to be aware of that fact. It burns the barrel needlessly, especially for the short range. It also seems to use 30-50% more powder than the 6mmBR.

Now for some of your other questions:

Stainless Vs blued: Accuracy wise, no real difference. However it has been reported that stainless steel barrels may keep their accuracy somewhat longer, but they have the habit of losing their accuracy in a very sudden manner. I have heard of rifles giving up the ghost in the middle of a match, or from one week to the next. CM barrels slowly lose their accuracy in a more control manner. Also, you can bead blast a stainless steel barrel and that promotes cooling, whereas the blued barrels have mirror finish thus presenting the smallest surface possible and slower heat transfer.

Also, many (most?) custom barrelmakers only have stainless barrels.

For contour, that will depend on the barrelmaker and what their contours are. In F-Open, with such a high limit on rifle weight, you would be better served to have the heaviest contour you can fit. Heavy barrels are huge heat sinks, have large surfaces for faster cooling and these thick barrels are rigid. In F-TR we have to be more circumspect in choosing the barrel contour.
 
I kniow from my own experence that the stainless takes a lot longer to cool off....How do I know what dies I would need as I hear there are 2 different BR's Rem and the Norma? Got to know what I order is gonna be what I want..Thanks for the information..
 
Yes,a standard die set will work. Sinclairintl.com has the 6mmbr neck sizing die set for $54.99. You may prefer to eventually invest in a neck bushing sizer and a micrometer seated when wringing out the utmost accuracy your rig is capable of. Eabco.com carries the Lapua brass for $85.00/100. Excellent brass and will last for many, many reloads if not run excessively hot.

Mike
 
The 6BR is a great round that would be perfect for 300 yards. Cheap to shoot and easy to load for.

For barrel contour. A bull barrel will not be any more "accurate" than a varmint contour. The benefit of the heavier barrel is additional weight to absorb the recoil and also allow more shots to be taken before mirage off the barrel becomes an issue. The down side to a heavy barrel is the additional weight and it takes longer to cool off.
 
Ok, that would be true if you brought up both barrels to the same temperature and in order to do that, you will need to shoot a lot more bullets through the thicker barrel.

In the real world of F-class competition, where a string is either 15 or 20 rounds plus sighters, you will notice that a thicker barrel is much cooler than a thin barrel after the string is fired. Competitors actually pick up their heavy rifles by the truck-axle size barrels with their bare hands. I would not suggest one do that with a thin barreled rifle, unless of course you enjoy the burning sensation and smell of your own burning flesh.

So, the thicker barrels heat up less with the same amount of rounds through them and since they have a much greater surface area, they cool faster. Add a bead-blasted surface and it cools even faster.