Help: Redding Type S FL Sizing

[Papagallos]

Hello,

I am currently using a Redding Type S FL Sizing die on once fired 6.5-284 Lapua brass. I inserted a bushing, but for some strange reason I am unable to fully size the neck. If I size 3/4 of the neck, I am lucky. I adjusted the stem all the way to make contact with the bushing and then backed off about 1/32". This still didn't size the entire neck.

Equipment:
Redding Big Boss II
Redding Type S FL Die
Hornady Lock and Load Press Bushing
Hornady Lock and Load Conversion Kit

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

I'll post pictures of the sized brass tomorrow.

Thanks.

 

[ChrisGarrett]

What shell plate/holder are you using?

Sometimes this happens and it's not uncommon, but 3/4s of the necks is a bit much, from my experience and I use Redding bushing dies on five, or six cartridges.

You can attempt to shave some metal off of the top of your shell holder, which will allow you to move that bushing down, but you need to be mindful of bumping your shoulders back too far.

Chris

 

[Papagallos]

Hey, Chris

I am using a Redding #1 shell holder. If I turn the die further to bump the shoulder at least .003", I am still only sizing about 3/4 of the neck. I don't know what else to do to size the neck completely.

 

[milo 2.0]

With the Redding, that's about as good as it gets. The one thing to check is make sure the top of the decapping stem is all the way screwed down, then back it off 1/16th of a turn, so it floats. Really the neck doesn't have to be sized all the way to the shoulder.
Now pray your the neck in your chamber isn't oversized, or you're about to get the donut!

 

[Papagallos]

With the Redding, that's about as good as it gets. The one thing to check is make sure the top of the decapping stem is all the way screwed down, then back it off 1/16th of a turn, so it floats. Really the neck doesn't have to be sized all the way to the shoulder.
Now pray your the neck in your chamber isn't oversized, or you're about to get the donut!

Thanks, Milo.

That's one thing that I did for sure; Let the stem "float."

I guess I can run with the brass then.

 

[excaliber]

My Redding Type S bushing die sizes about 99% of my necks. I don`t think you have the bushing installed properly.

 

[exx1976]

The Redding instructions with my Type S FL bushing die for .308 say to flip the bushing over. Have you tried that?

 

[TimK]

It's my one gripe about that die. Mine does the same, but I'm fortunate to have a tight chamber. I've toyed with the idea of having my smith take some material out of the die body so the bushing will sit closer to the shoulder but have never done it.

 

[Papagallos]

The Redding instructions with my Type S FL bushing die for .308 say to flip the bushing over. Have you tried that?

Hot fucking damn. Let me try that.

 

[exx1976]

Hot fucking damn. Let me try that.

LOL

My bushing (.336) is installed numbers facing down and it works great. Not sure what the smaller bushings would need. Make sure to let us know if that worked!

 

[waste_knot]

For what it's worth I added a 0.004 brass shim strip around the bushing to remove any radial play. I also screw the stem cap down finger tight. You might check the die bore for a burr or piece of trash that may be keeping the bushing raised. Mine makes it all the way to the shoulder on a 308 w/ 0.335 bushing.

 

[exx1976]

One other thing I thought of while making a cup of coffee...

The instructions for my .308 die say to back off 1/16th of a TURN, that the bushing only needs to "float" about .004". You backed it off 1/32" of an inch according to your first post, that could also be part of the problem. Screw it down all the way, finger tight, then hold the die under a bright light. You should be able to see the striations in the top of the cap to use as a guide for how much you are turning it. I just backed mine of EVER so slightly, then shook the die next to my ear. I could hear the very faint clicking of the bushing jumping back and forth as I shook it. Try to backing off so much.

 

[Papagallos]

The Redding instructions with my Type S FL bushing die for .308 say to flip the bushing over. Have you tried that?

Sigh. It still didn't work.

 

[milo 2.0]

Sigh. It still didn't work.

It never worked for me either. When I look at my bushings under a magnifying glass, the bevel looks the same on both ends, and Papa, mine size about the same as your pic.
I'm about done with bushing dies, maybe go the route of the carbide button in a reg die.

 

[Papagallos]

One other thing I thought of while making a cup of coffee...

The instructions for my .308 die say to back off 1/16th of a TURN, that the bushing only needs to "float" about .004". You backed it off 1/32" of an inch according to your first post, that could also be part of the problem. Screw it down all the way, finger tight, then hold the die under a bright light. You should be able to see the striations in the top of the cap to use as a guide for how much you are turning it. I just backed mine of EVER so slightly, then shook the die next to my ear. I could hear the very faint clicking of the bushing jumping back and forth as I shook it. Try to backing off so much.

Uncle! I am assuming the die works in such fashion.

Thanks for all the tips, everyone.

 

[exx1976]

Uncle! I am assuming the die works in such fashion.

Thanks for all the tips, everyone.

So is it good now then? Your message was rather ambiguous...

 

[Papagallos]

So is it good now then? Your message was rather ambiguous...

I apologize for the ambiguity. No. It's still sizing the neck in the same manner as before. Oh well, at least the brass cycles perfectly. Time to run with what I have.