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Father's Day 513T....

TravisM1

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Back when I was a little kid, my Dad had an old Winchester 75 target model. He bought it at an auction with a ringed bore out near the muzzle, no sights, and drilled and tapped for one of the old stamped steel Weaver side-mount deals. At least it had a 1" scope on it. We killed the hell out of stuff with that rifle. Shot my first squirrels with it. My brother did too, probably.
When I was about 12 or 13, he traded it towards something, an NEF handi-rifle package with .22 Hornet and 20g barrels, a scope and mounts, IIRC. I've always kept an eye out for it and for a Ruger MKI target model he traded for an engine, I believe. Since I've been working, I've kept a little saved back so I could buy them if they turned up. It's been a while, but every lead on both is a dead end.

A couple years back I put together my own 513T, and my Dad really enjoys shooting it. I had everything for it except the aperture sights, which I'd probably never use, but want so that I have the whole "Barbie Playset".

At a small local show a couple weeks back, I ran across another 513T, much earlier than my late 50s/early 60s rifle. Straight bolt handle; magazine catch is attached to the rifle, not the stock; commercial production with a polished blued finished and no military markings. Aperture sights (Lyman 90MJT rear, Redfield globe front). Beautiful color-case hardening on the bolt after all of these years. The serial number is in the 8xx range.

A quick call to my brother and my sister, and it was decided. I was going to do the work, we were going to split the cost three ways and give it to him at our Father's Day get-together.

The one flaw is the someone had drilled and tapped the side of the receiver for one of the Weaver stamped-steel mounts, like my Dads old 75 had. So, the collector value was straight out the window. Which, as cool as the rifle is, makes it perfect for what I was looking for. A shooter for Pops, not a collector. Frankly, he wouldn't get the pleasure out of a set of Aperture Sights that he'd get from a scope. So I didn't feel a bit bad about D&Ting it for a set of real Weaver bases, as any collector value was shot in the ass by the gaping holes left by the Weaver Side-Mount.

To determine if it was worth messing with or not, we shot it fresh from the show with the aperture sights, from a sandbagged rest, at a range of a little over 20 yards, just to see if there was any kind of "mechanical accuracy". Turns out there was. Three of us shot it for groups on the same target, holding for the same POA. Five or six groups were shot, and the result was a nice, tight group a little larger than a quarter, but about 3" above the bull, which makes sense if it was zeroed for a longer range.

When I got it-
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The stock didn't look like anything special, just the dark coloration that a lot of these rifles have, probably from gathering oil, grease and dirt from being handled for 50-75 years. It was in the plan to refinish it, but I didn't realize the nice piece of wood I'd be working on until I got the old stuff stripped off of it.....
Stripped of the old finish, hit with a wet rag to show the grain-
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The D&T job- pretty straight-forward. Index the vice to the mill head. Figure out the spacing, find the center, punch the holes and tap them. Easy squeezy japanesey.
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Note the huge hole I had to make a plug for, and the associated tool marks, where it looks like the guy who did the first D&T job used a hand drill that wandered all over the damn place.....

The stock, after staining and the first couple coats of spray-on Tru-Oil-
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Sorry for the shitty pics, cell phone, basement, all kinds of wierd lighting (and apparently focusing as well) going on.

After an entire can of spray-on Tru Oil, and the remnants of a small bottle of the hand applied stuff I had laying around. I think I like the spray-on for getting a good base down on a piece of wood, but I like the rub-on stuff for getting good coverage for later coats.......
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The finished product....
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The scope is a Tasco 6-24x target/varmint. The rings are Millets. The Bases are Weaver. If he wants that scope, it's fine, but I'm hoping he wants to put something better on it.

The sights were removed, I'm holding on to them. I've got a lot of work in it, but it's a small price to pay to do something nice for the guy who introduced me to pretty much everything and made me who I am today. Here's to you, Dad.
 
that is a damn nice looking finished product!!!!

I am in a similar boat as you, I have been looking for a Winchester Mod. 94 30/30 "Golden Spike Commemorative" for my pop's. He lost it in a car way back in the day, but he loved that rifle....If I ever find one I am going to snatch it up for him.
 
Yeah, those are the ones. Hook on one side, two screws on the other. Problem I always have with them is the scope always wants to turn on me as Im tightening the screws.

Both this one and the later-production rifle I did up a couple years ago are commercial rifles.
 
The scope base bolts? Theyre millets, theyve got the windage-adjustable clamp setup to mount to the bases.

I hear you on the 540XR and 541T.theyre on my want list too.

What Id really like to find is two more shooter 513Ts. One to refinish for my boy, and another for myself for in a spare stock I bought when I was refinishing the stock on mine. Im thinking itd be just about perfect with the barrel cut, threaded and crowned at about 18", and the receiver drilled and tapped for an EGW angled base. Im pretty sure the savage rifles have the same diameter receiver, so itd just be a matter of screw spacing.
 
Awesome project! That stock is gorgeous. What a nice surprise to find that under old finish.

How's the trigger pull on your 513? I had heard at one point that the trigger may have been a weak point of the model, but I may have been misinformed.
 
That's about what I've heard. I looked at one when I purchased my 75t. That particular trigger was abysmal. I went with the 75t based on that and other factors. Nice to know they can be improved on. They sure are handsome rifles.