I am thinking about building a 260 rem just for shooting, hunting and what kind of range could i get from this rifle?.What are some pros and cons on this and do you suggest another caliber?
260 rem
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20" 260 pushes a 140 to 2700fps...whoops up on a 308 in every ballistic way but short-range energy.
And if you can kill it with a 308, you can kill it with a 260.
Also consider the 6.5 Creedmoor...
And if you can kill it with a 308, you can kill it with a 260.
Also consider the 6.5 Creedmoor...
i have a 308 looking for something to mainly shoot 800 to 1000 yds at targets and i will reload what i am going to shoot .
I am having a .260REM built right now. I am converting a .308WIN to the .260REM. The reasons I chose .260 were the following:
1. I will reload for it
2. It has better ballistics than .308 WIN
3. Less Recoil than .308 WIN
4. Will humanely take anything I realistically foresee myself hunting
1. I will reload for it
2. It has better ballistics than .308 WIN
3. Less Recoil than .308 WIN
4. Will humanely take anything I realistically foresee myself hunting
I shoot one. Get 2950 with 140g hybrids. Had em over 3k but the best node I found was at 2950 and no reason to push harder. You'll need to put it in a long action though to take advantage of that extra capacity which a lot of mfgs aren't doing.
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55= Sako new, prob Steyr, Tikka, Rem, Ruger, and Winchesters are on used racks.
Consider a Weatherby S2 in 6.5 Creedmoor.......
IF compared to 308, 6.5s have shorter bbl life, but not as bad as 243 and other 6mms, save the BR. The benefits outweigh the cons if you reload, if not the Creedmoor is the solution you want in a mild SA 6.5 that stretches flatter.
Consider a Weatherby S2 in 6.5 Creedmoor.......
IF compared to 308, 6.5s have shorter bbl life, but not as bad as 243 and other 6mms, save the BR. The benefits outweigh the cons if you reload, if not the Creedmoor is the solution you want in a mild SA 6.5 that stretches flatter.
Hornady 260 Remington,,,,,,,,, $55 per 20 round box at Dick's sporting goods, Plattsgurgh, NY,,,,,,,,,, this past Saturday
Very common misconception. The 260 is very efficient. I have one with a 22" barrel and one with a 26" barrel. There is less than 50 fps difference bewteen the two. In practial downrange terms, that is absolutely nothing!
I had a 26" 260 that would give 2820fps with 42.9gr H4350.
I now have a 20" 260 and get 2700fps with 43.0gr H4350.
So maybe 20-22fps/inch loss?
Can't go wrong with the 260, I have had at least one 308 the last 12 years, got a 260 a year ago, today I m down to one 308 and when that barrel is burned up it'll be another 6.5 of some sort with a medium Palma 24 inch.
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What bullet?
I'm almost finished my second 260 and decided on a 24" barrel length. Hoping to get a 139 scenar going 2800+
I'm running the same load as Boiler in my nitrided 20" 260, same bullet, but Rem brass and get 2730fps. I'm going to try some R17 once the weather warms back up and see if I can get close to 2800 without pressure and maintain the same accuracy as the 4350.
I've got two rifles
26 inch tube 142smk 44.5 h4350 is running 2850
28 inch tube 142smk 44.5 h4350 is running 2950
That's a big enough difference to me. I don't have a misconception about the round it's my observation with what I shoot.
If the op wants to run a short barrel friends of mine are having great results with 6.5x47 in 24 inch tubes getting 2800 on different bullet weights that is why I was pointing this out. It is a relative to what bullet and your goal.
26 inch tube 142smk 44.5 h4350 is running 2850
28 inch tube 142smk 44.5 h4350 is running 2950
That's a big enough difference to me. I don't have a misconception about the round it's my observation with what I shoot.
If the op wants to run a short barrel friends of mine are having great results with 6.5x47 in 24 inch tubes getting 2800 on different bullet weights that is why I was pointing this out. It is a relative to what bullet and your goal.
Sounds like you have pretty extreme variations in your barrels that are way outside the norm.
I love my 260! I have a Savage 12LRP in 260 bedded in a Manners T4 with CDI bottom metal and AI mags. I shoot with a couple of guys that have 308's. They always comment on how much "faster" my rounds seem to get to the target, which basically means the ballistics are awesome, making it drop energy way less. It's a shooter. I had it out to 600yds last week and was able to print a 5 shot group about 2.5-3" in diameter. My load is once fired RP brass, CCI200 primers, 42.0 gr H4350, 142 SMK seated at 2.82", going 2840fps out of the stock 26" barrel.
Those are some pretty stout numbers,, 28" tube 142SMK 44.5 H4350 running 2950...I run a 28" Krieger 44.3 H4350 at 2850.Wish I could get another 100fps but it isn't going to happen in this gun.
My 22" 6.5x47L is getting 2800fps with the 136gr ScenarL's and a moderate load of Varget.
Shouldn't be a problem, I'm pushing the same bullet at 2850 out of a 26" barrel with 42 gr of H4350 in Lapua brass and could go quite a bit hotter without pressure issues ( I have tested hotter, just that 42gr works like magic in mine)
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The 260 and 6.5 Creedmoor are the same thing. They push a 120 grain 6.5 bullet at 2750 fps.
The difference is that the longer, thinner bullet stabilizes better and drills deeper than a fatter bullet. Range wise, past 400 yards a 6.5 will fly farther with less drift due to the higher BC.
For hunting, nothing that can't kill you will know the difference between getting shot with a 308, 260, or 30-30.
Anyone care to say the 30-30 can't put meat in the freezer?
The difference is that the longer, thinner bullet stabilizes better and drills deeper than a fatter bullet. Range wise, past 400 yards a 6.5 will fly farther with less drift due to the higher BC.
For hunting, nothing that can't kill you will know the difference between getting shot with a 308, 260, or 30-30.
Anyone care to say the 30-30 can't put meat in the freezer?
And you would balk if you were told a Marlin 357 using 16 grains of Lil Gun pushes a 158 JSP about 2050, and hits real close to a thutty thutty, and flattens woods range deer w/o enough blast to need plugs....would happily poke deer to 200 yds with one. Longest kill 6BR 105gr over 28.5gr powder, 400 yds on a deer....shot placement w/good bullets.....the rest is mental masturbation, and calculating turret clicks.
Yes 308 (or 243, 708…)!
Load a 155gr Hybrid and it gets damn close to 260 long range ballistic performance and recoil levels
You can't load 180gr bullets in 260 never mind 200 + or 55gr for that matter.
The benefits of the improved ballistics of the 260 are more apparent at 800 yards out, short to medium range there is a benefit but it is marginal unless you are very good. This is because the ballistic efficiency helps compensate for ranging and wind compensation errors. Ballistic benefits are normally discussed based on the trajectory curve itself not on what benefits actually accrue when your firing solution is a bit out (which is reality and how it should be assessed) and this is why calibre advantages are usually overstated. You can just as easily get a 260/708 loading which is not any 'better' than a 308 loading etc etc
If you want to shoot targets get a 260 (or a 243/6mm) as any marginal benefit is worth having. If you really want to shoot things at long range you need a magnum. If you are shooting paper and things at short to medium ranges you could just as easily choose 243,260,708,308 or 338 F depending on the size of the beast as the ballistic advantages of any of this family are limited, and terminal performance is then an issue. It is then worth considering barrel life, bullet weight, ammo availability etc etc.
I get that people love whatever calibre they shoot and have an emotional investment in it. However in reality there is a limit to the differences that a designer can create simply by changing the neck diameter of the case and this inevitably simultaneously creates both advantages and disadvantages.
That is why there are so many people shooting 308. Buy what you fancy and don't think about it again !
My 260 Rem shoots lights out with H4350 43.3gr. in Lapua brass shooting Lapua Senar 139gr and 136gr L (long). 2775 fps out of 26" DTA barrel. 5 shot groups < 0.5 MOA. Best 0.36 MOA. Much better BC than 308.
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