My Savage 10FCP.. now 16.1" !!!!

EricCartmann

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My Savage 10FCP.. now 16.1" !!!!

Saved a total of 2.24lbs by cutting 8" of barrel and ditching the Bipod and Monopod. This will be my hunting rifle so wanted it as light as possible.

Work was done by Velocity Plus in Las Vegas. He does good work! He serviced about 20 guns total between me and my friends. There is ONE GUY on the Internet who bad mouths Velocity Plus without any proof whatsoever. He is most likely fabricating it all because he is a sensitive fellow that gets his feelings hurt easy, so now he has a personal vengeance against Velocity Plus.

What Velocity Plus did for this gun:
- Cut 8" of Barrel, thread, re-crown, and timed the thread so my YHM MuzzleBrake/Mount is properly timed
- Glass Bedding with Pillars on the McMillan A5 Stock

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These were the parts that are no longer with the gun
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Details:

Gun Weight:
Gun as Pictured with sling, cheekpad, YHM Mount, SSS 10 round Magazine, Scope + Rings: 12.3 lbs
YHM .308 SS Silencer: 30.2 oz (1.89 lbs)
Current OAL: 38.5" (no Silencer), 44.75" (with Silencer Attached)

Gun Previous (with 8" extra barrel, Harris Bipod, and Monopod added): 14.6 lbs

Parts -
Harris 6-9" Swivel Bipod: 13.1oz
Monopod: 4.9 oz
Sliced Savage Barrel: 1.10 lbs.

Total Savings is 2.24 lbs, but most importantly I shaved almost 2 lbs of front end weight by getting rid of 8" of barrel and the bipod. Now she is a great offhand shooter.

YHM .308 Ti Silencer: 15oz... and on the way!!! Just waiting for paperwork to clear.

Here was the Rifle before the Barrel Slice.. it was one long ass gun.
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ITsniper said:
What made you decide on 16.1" barrel? just curious for my own information. I'm also in the plan stages of a hunting build and was thinking on going only 20" barrel, but I may consider shorter if I can justify it.
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This thread here motivated me to go 16.1": http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...on-rifles/76996-16-18-inch-shorty-rifles.html

My 16" AR10, Chrono'ing my 175 SMK load, I get about 2440 FPS, which is about 110 FPS slower than the same load in my 20" AR10 (2550 FPS)

My 16" Lake City M80, 147 gr FMJ bullet, I get about 2680 FPS, while my 20" AR10 gets about 2770.

16" is more than enough for hunting Deer or Hog at 300 yards or less. The British DMR .308 AR (LMT MWS) are all 16". That should be good enough for us too! Also the ballistic calculator is the telling answer. At 200 yards, the Energy of my 175gr load will be about 1730 ft-lb for 16", about 150 ft-lb less than a 20".

It all boils down to how far you want to reach. For me, I don't plan on taking a shot is if it more than 300 yards. The energy of my 16" barrel at 200 yards will still be about 100 ft-lbs more than the 20" barrel at 300 yards.
 
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That's close to what I want to do with my 10 FCP HSP. I'm thinking cutting it down to 16-18" and swapping the heavy HSP stock for a CF Manners stock. Probably put a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32 on it. I'm also thinking of having the barrel fluted but I'm not sure if its worth it.
 
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RaptorFuel said:
That's close to what I want to do with my 10 FCP HSP. I'm thinking cutting it down to 16-18" and swapping the heavy HSP stock for a CF Manners stock. Probably put a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32 on it. I'm also thinking of having the barrel fluted but I'm not sure if its worth it.
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I need to get a lighter scope, the Weaver 3.5-15x50 scope I have on there is really nice for the money, but it is dam heavy. The weight of the rings, caps, and scope comes to 3.6 lbs!

My gun as is only weights 8.7 lbs with bedded stock, FH, sling, cheekpad, and scopemount. So I am satisfied with the weight overall, just need a lighter scope set up.
 
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anthonylapoint said:
How's it shoot? What load you using and what velocity you expecting to get?
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Have not shot her yet. I do not expect accuracy at grouping range (100 yards) to suffer at all. I guess I will soon find out...

Before the cut, it was a tack driver, always .50 MOA or less for the first 2 5-shot groups. This barrel does seem to foul faster than any other barrel I have owned, after about 200 rounds without a barrel clean, it gets over signs of pressure.
 
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I would expect it to shoot well, its a Savage. i bet itll reach 600 with accuracy, dont know about after that.

Have you tried the Dyna bore coat? Its suppose to cure or help that. It fills in imperfections in your barrel and it has a life time guarantee that it'll stay.
 
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anthonylapoint said:
I would expect it to shoot well, its a Savage. i bet itll reach 600 with accuracy, dont know about after that.

Have you tried the Dyna bore coat? Its suppose to cure or help that. It fills in imperfections in your barrel and it has a life time guarantee that it'll stay.
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Should go to 800 yards and be fairly accurate, it should chrono about 2400-2450 fps. That is the range of all my 16" .308 with my 175gr match load. For 147gr FMJ, it should get about 2675 fps.
 
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EricCartmann said:
Have not shot her yet. I do not expect accuracy at grouping range (100 yards) to suffer at all. I guess I will soon find out...

Before the cut, it was a tack driver, always .50 MOA or less for the first 2 5-shot groups. This barrel does seem to foul faster than any other barrel I have owned, after about 200 rounds without a barrel clean, it gets over signs of pressure.
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I had a 10 fp shortened and threaded to 16.5" and had a noticeable decrease in accuracy. I don't blame the length and the crown and threads looked great and was done by a well known and respected gunsmith. I'm honestly at a lose of why but it happened so prepare yourself for the possibility.
 
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EricCartmann said:
meant flash hider or muzzle device.
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oh, I did accuracy testing without a muzzle device using 3 loads that were known to shoot well and saw a 1/4-1/2" lose in accuracy at 100yds with all 3 loads. The barrel was originally untreaded. I'm not saying you will have the same result just that it's possible.
 
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InkedIan said:
oh, I did accuracy testing without a muzzle device using 3 loads that were known to shoot well and saw a 1/4-1/2" lose in accuracy at 100yds with all 3 loads. The barrel was originally untreaded. I'm not saying you will have the same result just that it's possible.
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I have no doubt it could happen. I guess it is too short now to re-cut and re-crown if it does happen.
 
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