No tin foil, there's a real danger with this,

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Not in my back yard. Let the city rats test it out for all I care. Relays every 500 feet for the three fucking houses and about 400 goddamn cows in my neighborhood, I doubt that shit.

What's the danger with this specifically, anyway? Super high freq radio basically? I've heard stories of field radio operators losing hair and shit like that, is the same principle in focus here?
 
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I think part of the problem is going to be how many and how powerful the transmitters are.
Current cellphones can cause issues but those are quite suppressed due to the money involved for all parties including the government with cell phones.

The problem I see with 5G is that you'll need probably 10x more transmit / receive stations for coverage and everybody is going to be under "pressure" so to speak to crank the power levels to the max they can get away with in order to improve coverage.

The guys in the tin foil hats may eventually have a real point about needing to be shielded from them.

Also while rare, there are reliable reports that people with various metallic implants in their bodies from either surgery or dental work have sensitivity to radio frequencies at different levels, so some folks that are fine now, may find things not fine once this goes widespread.
 
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Cheyenne Bodie said:
Well, all things do really. You're saying that 5G disrupts this in some organisms?
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Don't think it will disrupt to the point of making you sick right away, but no one knows where the long term effects will lead, unlike microwave.
https://phys.org/news/2016-10-scientists-effects-infrasonic-vibrations-humans.html
Now also remember, that 1st, 3rd an so on harmonics, follow all RF freq's. So the freq that is being transmitted may not be the issue, but a harmonic of that freq might be.
 
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Gunfighter14e2 said:
Don't think it will disrupt to the point of making you sick right away, but no one knows where the long term effects will lead, unlike microwave.
https://phys.org/news/2016-10-scientists-effects-infrasonic-vibrations-humans.html
Now also remember, that 1st, 3rd an so on harmonics, follow all RF freq's. So the freq that is being transmitted may not be the issue, but a harmonic of that freq might be.
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Interesting site and article you linked right there.

Infrasonics are one of the more mysterious physical phenomenon that is just being opened up to more serious study. After all, that seems to be the next big thing in weaponry, esp. crowd control, area denial, (and some tin foilers even mentioned mind control). It is known that sonic frequencies at certain levels can induce headaches, various kinds of pains and bodily discomfort, and even hallucinations. A lot of folks' "ghost" and "paranormal" sightings and "experiences" have been attributed to living near places where there is a high amount of infrasonic output, ie. railways, power plants, aircraft facilities, etc.

Not to be meant as a thread sidetrack but that other article they have on there about "rain on the sun" is pretty cool shit too. Good reads.
 
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Cheyenne Bodie said:
I understand the composition and modulation of frequencies. I just want to know where the proof is, where has someone observed this as more than indirect cause and effect. I don't know that it's been explored that far, though think it should be.
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One thing you will need to take into account is that "scientists" and "researchers" are kind of money whores and they need someone to pay them for their "research" and "studies" as most of what they do does not actually produce any income directly, so they are dependent almost entirely on grants, funding from government or corporate sources, or being on the payroll of a corporate or educational corporate institution.

There is Billions of dollars in cell phones, the governments of just about every more well off country rake in billions of dollars from spectrum licensing and each new spectrum means even more money for government coffers.... really hard to pass up....

Then of course the wireless companies want as many customers as possible to use as much high priced services as possible in as many places as possible.

The manufacturers of cell phones and back end equipment also are looking at huge amounts of money..

So given all that, where do you think the "research" and "reports" dollars are going to be coming from......
Players that are interested in making sure that everything is proved to be safe and any problems are undetermined.
 
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Well, I decided to ask my buddy who works for Leidos/SAIC where he feeds thinktank brains. He said that there are actually a more than a few good studies done, some proprietary but especially illuminating, on the effects of electromagnetic radiation upon the human body— mammalian cells specifically, in fact. Otherwise there really isn't shit, we have no idea how it will impact other organisms or natural processes within the local environments. He said it's not really "popular" information because of industry basically not giving a fuck in any case. He's under the impression that while there's no specific reason to be alarmed that he is aware of, there is a spectrum where 5G frequencies could be harmful, and not a definite line in the sand.

In any case, the roboslave army will need the data infrastructure. God knows how behind we are on that pillar of technology.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
I think part of the problem is going to be how many and how powerful the transmitters are.
Current cellphones can cause issues but those are quite suppressed due to the money involved for all parties including the government with cell phones.

The problem I see with 5G is that you'll need probably 10x more transmit / receive stations for coverage and everybody is going to be under "pressure" so to speak to crank the power levels to the max they can get away with in order to improve coverage.

The guys in the tin foil hats may eventually have a real point about needing to be shielded from them.

Also while rare, there are reliable reports that people with various metallic implants in their bodies from either surgery or dental work have sensitivity to radio frequencies at different levels, so some folks that are fine now, may find things not fine once this goes widespread.
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Whoa wait a minute....
The place I work...and have for years, is FULL of frequencies. I sit behind the Incinerator building all the time and play with my AM radio tuning in all the motors running.

Could all this frequencies be contributing to my headaches through the titanium in my neck?
The blower building where my office resides has huge motors cranking out loads of waves as well.

Anyone? Is this a thing? It never even crossed my mind.
 
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Titanium is non-magnetic and does not conduct electricity well at all. As far as the mass, it's probably comparable to wet bone. Who knows if it's acting like a faulty harmonic balancer or some shit. With no consideration to titanium, the answer is yes it can contribute to headaches. Magnetic fields, microwaves, radio waves, 3G/4G/5G, WiFi, nuke radiation— it's all different flavours of exactly the same shit, electromagnetic radiation.
 
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Be prepared, the whole new 5G is the beginning of the long game plan. ' It Is' the bedrock . I think the basic conscious is that it to start replace humans on all levels in basic paid labor roles . With basic labor shifting to tech. roles that needed to serve and repair your mechanical masters ...LOL
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W54/XM-388 said:
Don't be too quick to discount that.
A lot more things affect the brain than are known and sometimes "somebody" might find the perfect stooge with just the right brain chemistry.
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Correct, brain waves can be greatly influenced by magnetic fields, an waves depending upon field strength, freq an duration. This is proven fact.
 
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One other thing that I don't know exactly how it will relate is that your various cavities and bone structures in your body, especially in your head act as directional radio frequency resonators.

I use it quite often to extend the range on my car remote. I can reliably get 25% to 50% more range on my car remote by holding it against my jawbone / head & can replicate the same result with anyone else. The 25% to 50% variance seems to depend somewhat on the direction you face and jaw position.

Something fun to try out, that can be useful if you need to find your car in a big parking lot.

But that means somewhere along the way your bone structure in your head is able to shape/focus/channel the RF waves.
 
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I'm prepared:
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So do I have to worry this will kill me before my Copd, boozing or gun toting wife?

Seriously think a think a rookie cop will toast me first due to lack of training and balls.
 
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Just for some perspective;
This study relied on information from the World Health Orginization (WHO)
The same organization that classifies processed meat as a group 1 carcinogen.
Other group one carcinogens include tobacco smoke, asbestos, and plutonium.
Yep....Plutonium. They think salami and pepperoni is as dangerous as plutonium.
They classify organic grass fed red meat as a class 2 carcinogen.
And you thought California was bad.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Whoa wait a minute....
The place I work...and have for years, is FULL of frequencies. I sit behind the Incinerator building all the time and play with my AM radio tuning in all the motors running.

Could all this frequencies be contributing to my headaches through the titanium in my neck?
The blower building where my office resides has huge motors cranking out loads of waves as well.

Anyone? Is this a thing? It never even crossed my mind.
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I have titanium in my neck as well. Before my surgery I never got migraines. After, I got 1 or 2 a month.
However as long as I get an epidural injection in my spine every 6-9 months I’m fine. I don’t think it has anything to do with RF. If it did the injections wouldn’t help.
 
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Loonhunter said:
I have titanium in my neck as well. Before my surgery I never got migraines. After, I got 1 or 2 a month.
However as long as I get an epidural injection in my spine every 6-9 months I’m fine. I don’t think it has anything to do with RF. If it did the injections wouldn’t help.
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My headaches have been every day since about December. Had my first injection 2 weeks ago, my headaches only come on at work now, thankfully they aren't as intense or frequent.

I'm no fan of that injection. I'm gonna let them operate again and try to imobilize that bad fusion.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
My headaches have been every day since about December. Had my first injection 2 weeks ago, my headaches only come on at work now, thankfully they aren't as intense or frequent.

I'm no fan of that injection. I'm gonna let them operate again and try to imobilize that bad fusion.
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My first fusion was bad. Incompetent surgeon. He was an orthopedic surgeon. I had a neurosurgeon fix his many mistakes.
 
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Loonhunter said:
I have titanium in my neck as well. Before my surgery I never got migraines. After, I got 1 or 2 a month.
However as long as I get an epidural injection in my spine every 6-9 months I’m fine. I don’t think it has anything to do with RF. If it did the injections wouldn’t help.
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I have traveled down this long long road.
I've had the epidurals, then 18 Facet injections, then 10 Radio ablation treatments in my neck.
All of which are a miserable experience,but worth it if it helped.
Unfortunately for me relief was short lived and the side effects of the RA were horrible for me.
I have cages in the cervical vertebrae fom C-6 -C-3,next step is to go in and remove whats there and start from C-1 to C-6,yeah I'm putting it off until I can't go anymore as I'll end up with no movement in my neck.
Anytime the weather changes I get headaches and want to vomit, it's a miserable situation.
One thing I've learned about Doctors is they all have their own options on how to fix you.
We won't talk about all the other metal I have in my body holding things together.

But back to radio emmisions, they most definitely have an effect on things in my opinion,however getting someone to provide credible evidence, good luck because there's to much money involved.
I can walk out to the right of way and light up a florescent light bulb off my fence on a wet day from the leakage from the high tension lines above.
 
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Brussels recently decided to hold off on 5G:

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com www.zerohedge.com

26,000 Scientestist have signed a petition to hold off on it:

principia-scientific.org

Petition: 26,000 Scientists Oppose 5G Roll Out | Principia Scientific Intl.

The upcoming launch of 5G radio telecommunications technology has prompted a mass petition against the move on safety grounds by thousands of scientists.
principia-scientific.org principia-scientific.org

Part of the problem is it has such a short range, damn near everyone will spend 100% of their time within a few hundred yards of a tower. Most street lights will likely have an antennae. Been seriously considering finally moving way out in to the boonies over this one. Im sure once the technology has a suitable replacement in a decade (Lifi?) they will finally admit the harm this one does.
 
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Gunfighter14e2 said:
Correct, brain waves can be greatly influenced by magnetic fields, an waves depending upon field strength, freq an duration. This is proven fact.
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It is proven that that Russia/China/Cuba has sickened a lot of diplomats over the years with neurological/brain nervous system attacks . You cant ever get a straight answer for that out of Fed. Gov. on exact info for that Bullshit .
The upcoming 5G global 'experiment' is the same, and you will never get a straight Government answer to it's pre or post effect either . It's for the money and you are expendable for the cause . You have no say . The worlds governments will give unified permission and money-$ to surround the globe with a blanket of 5G . But on the bright side the general public will have a pretty BadAss cell phone to bury there head in .
 
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PrepareSmarter said:
Not really.. you're talking about ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation.
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Bingo.

Cheyenne Bodie said:
Titanium is non-magnetic and does not conduct electricity well at all. As far as the mass, it's probably comparable to wet bone. Who knows if it's acting like a faulty harmonic balancer or some shit. With no consideration to titanium, the answer is yes it can contribute to headaches. Magnetic fields, microwaves, radio waves, 3G/4G/5G, WiFi, nuke radiation— it's all different flavours of exactly the same shit, electromagnetic radiation.
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That's a broad brush. Don't forget ALL light too, especially since that light carries more ionizing energy than microwaves, radio waves, 3G/4G/5G, and WiFi ...better live underground I guess.

And while we're at it, might as well discuss how breathing air and digesting food produces free radicals....causing ionization and the same cell damage as external ionizing radiation.

Some studies estimate 70% of the oxidative stress you'll experience over your lifetime is from just living on earth. The remaining 25% from medical procedures and 5% from all other man-made sources.
 
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