Total package on the small one with this much bs in it is 30.5lbs, that is 2 guns, PPE, about 250ish rds of 147gr 9mm maybe same of 22lr, garmin, 2 cans, 7 p320 mags, 3 p322 mags, cleaning kit, spare batteries, weatherman, anti burn shit gloves, sock, and hanky, targets, etc. so it adds up, but...