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I was trying to formulate something to say, but you’ve pretty well covered it.
I'm fairly certain S&B is just fucking with us now. Can't wait for next year's 16-96x56mm rather than something practical like a 3-18x42PMII (that's not a $4k 2nd FP hunting scope with a fucking #7 reticle)
Have you checked regular S&B pricing lately...?Still want to see what it costs in comparison to the ridiculously overpriced TT
F-Class is what I was thinkingOther then F-Class and maybe ELR why does one need that high of magnification? On my 7-35 ATACR, I run it most of the time at 15-20x, sometimes at 25x as the higher powers are too tight of a eyebox to be really useful.
I run my NF 7-35 to about 25X for most applications for the reasons you mention but no idea what the eye box will look like on this one. You may be right though.Other then F-Class and maybe ELR why does one need that high of magnification? On my 7-35 ATACR, I run it most of the time at 15-20x, sometimes at 25x as the higher powers are too tight of a eyebox to be really useful.
5-25's running north of $5k for certain modelsI have...
That’s funny. I’ve heard it referred to as a tumor but not a “barnacle.”hate the barnacle
6-36 - I already have a 7-35 NF...nothing specialS&B already has:
6-36
5-45
12-50
This seems like not much of an improvement over the 12-50, I mean on that one at 50x all you really have is the center + of the crosshair so I don't expect 60x to be any better.
I don't think so...maybe $6-7K. The erector design is lifted from the 6-365-25's running north of $5k for certain models
Ultra Short 3-20's running up into the $6k's
Yeah...why anyone wouldn't TT or ZCO it up at that point with that bullshit pricing is beyond me.
I'd be shocked if that 10-60 didn't msrp with a "9" out front...if not the full 5-figure treatment.
Hard to say...anyone got a 6-36???I don't think so...maybe $6-7K. The erector design is lifted from the 6-36
6-36 - I already have a 7-35 NF...nothing special
5-45 - Barnacle which sucks and limited reticle and turret choices last I looked
12-50 - Non illuminated reticle and a shitty reticle to boot
YMMV
You have the ultimate veto power...don't buy itHard to say...anyone got a 6-36???
$6-7k still ain't great
Valid points but consider...Here's what I'd comment.
On the 12-50, a fancy reticle is kind of pointless if you actually intend to use it at 40-50x
The P4FL works very well for target shooting which is what that scope was intended to be used for.
The glass quality on it is very nice.
When you are pushing out to 1k and beyond in target shooting, having 0.025 mil adjustments can be pretty useful.
I'm not sure the weight and size of the proposed 10-60 is going to suit the gamer types that want fancy reticles.
Even at 45x the FOV is small enough that you really have to be static target shooting to be able to use it easily.
It would seem the 7-35 or 8-40 is kind of about the upper limits of useability for FFP scopes with fancy reticles.
Just pre ordered the S&B 6-36, it wasn't 6-7K!Hard to say...anyone got a 6-36???
$6-7k still ain't great
Guess you didn’t want a reticle other than P5FL or DT II+ turrets thenJust pre ordered the S&B 6-36, it wasn't 6-7K!
Thats what i ordered the P5FL reticle w 1/2 cm MT II MTC LT / DT IIGuess you didn’t want a reticle other than P5FL or DT II+ turrets then
Let us know what you think when you get it. What kind of stick are putting it on?Thats what i ordered the P5FL reticle w 1/2 cm MT II MTC LT / DT II
That’s funny. I’ve heard it referred to as a tumor but not a “barnacle.”
Just pre ordered the S&B 6-36, it wasn't 6-7K!
I switch scopes around on my rifles all the time. If the reticle is usable on 6x it may go on a LR hunting rifle. If not it may get zeroed for a AI barrel.Let us know what you think when you get it. What kind of stick are putting it on?
Deposit under contract ... i better not see a price increase.You will see that in q4 of next year with another price increase
No worries...I'm sleepingLove it ... No accidental paralax grab at 2am under nvg
I’m waiting to see a review or write up of the march majesta glass compared to thisGot mine so far I am really happy with it. But can't really report on it until after I shoot it in match....will try to write a little about it in June.
How is the glass compared to the 6-36?Got mine a while back, not yet mounted it.
It is a big scope for sure. Like the looks of the M1FL reticle.
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How is the glass compared to the 6-36?
VERY interested in the 10-60!!
Available here shortly.Have not yet had a chance to get it out and compare the two, but first impressions are good.
I do notice quite a bit of «half mooning»(vignetting?!) in the FOV when at the outer adjustment area of elevation, but I guess that is the price to pay for such high magnification(?). Took a couple of bad iphone pictures to try to capture it, one picture is with turrett at 0 and the other at max 23,5.
Are they available down there yet?
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Available here shortly.
Years ago i used to run the old S&B 12x50 x56 PM2 on an AWSM 338...loved the scope but it had very very limited elev/wind travel.
The new 10-60 is VERY appealing to me. The 6-36,s i currently run are fantastic , but the 10-60 is one i think i will try..
ELR..What is your intended use?
You had a chance yet to compare directly to the 6-36 ?Have not yet had a chance to get it out and compare the two, but first impressions are good.
I do notice quite a bit of «half mooning»(vignetting?!) in the FOV when at the outer adjustment area of elevation, but I guess that is the price to pay for such high magnification(?). Took a couple of bad iphone pictures to try to capture it, one picture is with turrett at 0 and the other at max 23,5.
Are they available down there yet?
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You had a chance yet to compare directly to the 6-36 ?
Thanks..Both yes and no. Taking it to the range tomorrow, will try to write up some thoughts afterwards.
But if you like the 6-36 and the specs of the 10-60 suits your needs, then I do not think it will be a step in the wrong direction.
How did you go ?Both yes and no. Taking it to the range tomorrow, will try to write up some thoughts afterwards.
But if you like the 6-36 and the specs of the 10-60 suits your needs, then I do not think it will be a step in the wrong direction.
How did you go ?
I really enjoyed the .05MIL clicks!
I am pretty sure it is the only .05MIL FFP scope on the market...they designed it for F-class and bench rest style shooting. It worked GREAT for that for me.