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Trijicon Credo 1-10

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Noticed this listing for a new 1-10 trijicon LPVO browsing Optics Planet. Searched around and saw the same on Kenzie optics, but no details elsewhere.


Looks like a few changes from the 1-8 credo. Windage is now capped instead of locking/exposed like the elevation, and the reticle is now the same as what's in the VCOG SCO (not enough wind holds imo). Not sure the specs on optics planet are accurate since it keeps going back and forth between 30mm and 34mm tube.

Personally I'm interested. Not holding out hope for better brightness, but the 1-8 credo is my second favorite LPVO, right after the ATACR.
 
Trijicon makes a dead sexy scope with the Credo and Tenmile lines.
There is a hell of a lot baked into this 1-10 model and it's teetering on the audacious. :ROFLMAO:
10X provides a couple concerns:

- Will there be a useful reticle at 1X? (I think only if the illumination is daytime bright)
- How is 10X gonna look in a 28mm obj?
 
The credo 1-8/vcog reticle works well enough on 1x without illumination, and this looks like the same reticle as those. There have been more than a handful of 2 gun matches that I've shot without illumination because I kept forgetting to change out the battery and I didn't feel like it was a hindrance. How far the crosshairs extend on 1x and the segmented circle do a good job of bringing your eye to the center of the reticle.

The Vudu 1-10 and the Delta Striker HD 1-10 both have 28mm objectives, so the 10x is probably going to be comparable to those if I had to guess.
 
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That reticle is a fucking abortion. The tree brackets are spaced every 5 mils to 25 mils… what in the actual fuck is the practical use for that? This thing might be great mounted on an M2, but for any sort of carbine application that reticle is going be be pure ass. They pulled a total Leupold move with the reticle here.
 
That reticle is a fucking abortion. The tree brackets are spaced every 5 mils to 25 mils… what in the actual fuck is the practical use for that? This thing might be great mounted on an M2, but for any sort of carbine application that reticle is going be be pure ass. They pulled a total Leupold move with the reticle here.
You made it sound like they did something new; that reticle has been around for a long time… it is pretty intuitive close up but higher magnification not so good for surgical shots for whatever effing reason people think they will be forced to take one day with their ars.

I wonder if they effed out the optical qualities like the abomination razor 3 is. 1-10 is diffictult.
 
I’m personally a huge fan of the SCO reticle in my VCOG. At 8x its not bad to get behind either. And a 28mm objective lense is only ~7% smaller than the 30mm size the Mk5 uses, so it shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
 
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21 ounces down from 25.8! I have a couple of the 1-8 versions and love them, especially the very forgiving eyebox. Easiest scope to get behind that I have experienced. But that weight reduction is very appealing.
I wonder if the housing material has anything to do with that....

The Credo 1-8 is made with 6061 Aluminum. The 1-10 shows 6064 (I have no idea what the implications are, only that I have never seen anything other than 6061 and 7075 aluminum used in this industry).

ETA: they seem to have shortened it up by about 0.7 inch and lowered it's profile by about 0.2 inch as well...
 
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Let us know your impressions when you’ve got some use on it. I think we’re all hoping to hear a review other than whatever gets written in a magazine by a gun writer who basically says “this new scope is just great, you can definitely trust my old eyes.”
 
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Hello, UPS was delayed a bit, and received it today. I haven't been to range yet, but live in a city with a decent view.
Initial reaction, I like it. I am keeping it.
Let me preface this with, "I hope to have an expert opinion one day", but I am no expert.
I have only tested 2 LPVO's from my city view apartment window (unmounted of course), SIG 1-10x26 FFP and this Trijicon 1-10x28 FFP, though I have personally inspected the Vortex Razor Gen 3 1-10 and Eotech Vudu 1-10 at the store. Unfortunately I have the dubious job of being most critical of the one optic I have in my possession (and keeping), the Trijicon, with no immediate comparisons.
I know that no optic is perfect.
I'll comment on the SIG Tango-MSR 1-10x26 FFP, it was actually pretty good, the glass was decent, though at 1x "the horseshoe was a red dot" and not daylight bright but acceptable, and the reticle functional but lacking in details. I'll leave it at that, and I was tempted to keep it (I would have if I had a rifle for it). It would have met 100% of my range only plinking needs (for now). I did not judge the glass with the same critical eye as the Trijicon as I had decided to return it for other reasons.
I'm putting these in the same class: Razor / Vudu / Credo, but again only have significant hands on with the Credo.

What immediately grabbed my attention on the Trijicon Credo HX is a very useable reticle (MOA in my case). Also; the 1/4 moa per click adjustments, daylight useable red/green (a true red dot is still a touch brighter - i e. my Holosun HE530C-RD on manual max bright "edges this out", but on auto bright does not), on 10x the "+" in the center expands to expose a dot within the cross. Everything just works without being too busy, and in a nice compact package (though I would have preferred low profile turrets).

I could see some chromatic distortion at 10x, full day bright, against white building's edge (I managed to find some purple, but not sure I would notice it I wasn't looking for it), and at 1x "I thought I saw yellow around the scope's perimeter", but I am now very much in scrutiny mode saying it. I would like someone else to be able validate this. It would seem the eyes start playing tricks staring an optic too long .Neither of these glimpses of color are a deal breaker for me, but I do plan to chat with Trijicon about the purple. I found there was ever so slight a change of shade looking at a stone church with direct sun offset and behind, but I had to switch naked eye to scoped eye back and forth several times to come to that conclusion, and with the sun nearing the horizon this was not the case. Daytime, at max brightness, the red illumination is fantastic, the green I am sure just as much with the right background/contrast. At lower light situations I think I prefer green. Night time, at max brightness, the color (green and red) bleeds into the reticle moa numbers making them unreadable, but leaves them visible as reference marks as well as the cross. I think this is intentional. I look for usefulness, and there is a balance, bright vs bleed at night. Yes it's that bright zoomed in at night you'll need to dial it down, and 1x while usable max bright at night you'll want to dial it down too most likely. My Holosun's auto bright works great for night use staring at the lit church parking lot, but max manual bright is also too bright for this night scene.

The scope diopter, set right, offers both eye open sight without perceptible fisheye at 1x, but you'll see some during adjustment..

OK I've been staring at this optic too long tonight. Good night!

I have 20/20 distance (20/15 on a good day), though do need reading glasses.

Thank you Trijicon.
 
Springfield Armory M1A scout squad (308), Archangel Precision Stock, SA aluminum scope rail, Trijicon Credo HX 1-10x28 mounted with American Defense Delta QD, TLR8 laser/light, DeadAir Xeno muzzle break (Nomad30 not shown).
 

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Hello, UPS was delayed a bit, and received it today. I haven't been to range yet, but live in a city with a decent view.
Initial reaction, I like it. I am keeping it.
Let me preface this with, "I hope to have an expert opinion one day", but I am no expert.
I have only tested 2 LPVO's from my city view apartment window (unmounted of course), SIG 1-10x26 FFP and this Trijicon 1-10x28 FFP, though I have personally inspected the Vortex Razor Gen 3 1-10 and Eotech Vudu 1-10 at the store. Unfortunately I have the dubious job of being most critical of the one optic I have in my possession (and keeping), the Trijicon, with no immediate comparisons.
I know that no optic is perfect.
I'll comment on the SIG Tango-MSR 1-10x26 FFP, it was actually pretty good, the glass was decent, though at 1x "the horseshoe was a red dot" and not daylight bright but acceptable, and the reticle functional but lacking in details. I'll leave it at that, and I was tempted to keep it (I would have if I had a rifle for it). It would have met 100% of my range only plinking needs (for now). I did not judge the glass with the same critical eye as the Trijicon as I had decided to return it for other reasons.
I'm putting these in the same class: Razor / Vudu / Credo, but again only have significant hands on with the Credo.

What immediately grabbed my attention on the Trijicon Credo HX is a very useable reticle (MOA in my case). Also; the 1/4 moa per click adjustments, daylight useable red/green (a true red dot is still a touch brighter - i e. my Holosun HE530C-RD on manual max bright "edges this out", but on auto bright does not), on 10x the "+" in the center expands to expose a dot within the cross. Everything just works without being too busy, and in a nice compact package (though I would have preferred low profile turrets).

I could see some chromatic distortion at 10x, full day bright, against white building's edge (I managed to find some purple, but not sure I would notice it I wasn't looking for it), and at 1x "I thought I saw yellow around the scope's perimeter", but I am now very much in scrutiny mode saying it. I would like someone else to be able validate this. It would seem the eyes start playing tricks staring an optic too long .Neither of these glimpses of color are a deal breaker for me, but I do plan to chat with Trijicon about the purple. I found there was ever so slight a change of shade looking at a stone church with direct sun offset and behind, but I had to switch naked eye to scoped eye back and forth several times to come to that conclusion, and with the sun nearing the horizon this was not the case. Daytime, at max brightness, the red illumination is fantastic, the green I am sure just as much with the right background/contrast. At lower light situations I think I prefer green. Night time, at max brightness, the color (green and red) bleeds into the reticle moa numbers making them unreadable, but leaves them visible as reference marks as well as the cross. I think this is intentional. I look for usefulness, and there is a balance, bright vs bleed at night. Yes it's that bright zoomed in at night you'll need to dial it down, and 1x while usable max bright at night you'll want to dial it down too most likely. My Holosun's auto bright works great for night use staring at the lit church parking lot, but max manual bright is also too bright for this night scene.

The scope diopter, set right, offers both eye open sight without perceptible fisheye at 1x, but you'll see some during adjustment..

OK I've been staring at this optic too long tonight. Good night!

I have 20/20 distance (20/15 on a good day), though do need reading glasses.

Thank you Trijicon.
Thanks for the detailed write up!
 
Interesting about the purple fringing and yellowing. I have several Trijicon Credo scopes (3-9x40, 2.5-15x42, 4-16x50) and they all have very clear glass. They do have a warm (vs cool) sense of lighting, which may be the "yellowing" you mentioned. I would think Trijicon might want to look at your scope if that purple fringing is really a distraction.
 
Interesting about the purple fringing and yellowing. I have several Trijicon Credo scopes (3-9x40, 2.5-15x42, 4-16x50) and they all have very clear glass. They do have a warm (vs cool) sense of lighting, which may be the "yellowing" you mentioned. I would think Trijicon might want to look at your scope if that purple fringing is really a distraction.
The purple appeared only on white that's been illuminated in full sunlight, otherwise not seeing it. The yellow could be a "warm" color effect at the edge of the scope, definitely not seeing anything yellow if don't look for it. I will talk with Trijicon on the purple and reply back here.
 
Actually, I just called Trijicon and under full bright "white" background they said a touch of purple isn't uncommon. They also said that the peripheral yellow is also normal under certain lighting situations. I will say that I have no concerns for the overall quality, and I am sure I am being super critical... I'm now going to be looking more closely at my SIG Sierra6 BDX 3-18, Vortex Rimfire scope and vortex scout scope 😂.
 
I'm curious if any optic zoomed in on a white backdrop on a sunny day would not produce purple fringing. Physics, material science, and nothing is perfect it's like the definition of chromatic, white is the entire spectrum which hits a lens.
 
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I'm now in the camp that chromatic distortion happens on all optics to one degree or another...

I took some time this morning to inspect my four scopes vs building edges in the morning sun.

1. Vortex 2-7x32 Crossfire II scout scope
2. Vortex 2-7x32 Crossfire II Rimfire
3. SIG 3-18x44 Sierra6BDX
4. Trijicon 1-10x28 Credo HX-1

It is a sampling of entry to mid price points, and I was able to see purple edging on all... Maybe I'm just sensitive to it.

I thought I'd follow up as I didn't want anyone to think the Trijicon glass is questionable. It's good glass, the best I own.
 
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I think the point that matters is whether the off-coloration/fringing is prevalent and distracting, or just something you might detect if you look very hard for it. If you spend some time behind the scope (long enough that your body/eyes are tired of it) and are spending that time looking at targets, and you're not noticing the off-color, it doesn't seem to matter. To me, anyway.
 
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I think the point that matters is whether the off-coloration/fringing is prevalent and distracting, or just something you might detect if you look very hard for it. If you spend some time behind the scope (long enough that your body/eyes are tired of it) and are spending that time looking at targets, and you're not noticing the off-color, it doesn't seem to matter. To me, anyway.
Yup, I'm being picky :)

It's the most expensive optic I've bought and so I was scrutinizing it. It's crystal clear looking across the way at balconies, garages, parks, day or night. I'd never be distracted using it.

My use case in general is 100 yards without using a spotting scope, but do plan to bring it to Massachusetts once I get my permit there. Long distance range is about 2 hours away, which is 1000 yards, though I'll be happy with their 300-500 with this optic, and if I go further north SiG academy is I believe 700 yards. I think my 3-18x would be OK for 500+, but I have zero experience with anything beyond 100 yards at this point.
 
I purchased a Trijicon Credo 1-10x28 Mil and mounted it on a RRA 556 The lens is amazing. It is crystal clear 1-10. The illuminated reticle
Is day light viewable 1-10. At 10x red is better than green to me. I have several Leupold Mark 5 illuminated 3.6x18’s and the Trijicon is equal or better. I hope to get to the range this weekend to try the scope out.
 
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I purchased a Trijicon Credo 1-10x28 Mil and mounted it on a RRA 556 The lens is amazing. It is crystal clear 1-10. The illuminated reticle
Is day light viewable 1-10. At 10x red is better than green to me. I have several Leupold Mark 5 illuminated 3.6x18’s and the Trijicon is equal or better. I hope to get to the range this weekend to try the scope out.
At night, do you get reticle bleed at brighter settings? Dial brightness down goes away... I'm sure it's normal, my first scope with this kind of illumination.

I'm headed to the range Saturday for first use :)
 
I just got one of these. I’m hoping to get range time soon with it, but am liking it so far just playing around at the house.

What are folks using for flip up scope covers?
 
I took my 1-10x Credo HX to the range for some sighting in. It’s on my 13” 6mm ARC mounted with a Warne XKEL mount.

Conditions were hot and muggy and a light overcast with occasional clear periods

The glass was clear. I couldn’t perceive any optical distortion out to the edges and colors seemed true.

Sighting in, I used the MOA reticle hashes to measure POA/POI differences. I then made the adjustments and found both the hashes and click adjustments to be accurate. I did not shoot a box nor did I do a test against a high vertical target. Once sighted, I did monkey around a bit turning knobs and checking shot movement. It seemed spot on and when adjusted back to my zero it was perfect.

I wish they had made the top turret like on their 1-8x models, where you have to pull up the knob to turn. But with the turret zeroed it is easy to take a quick glance to assure you are your zero.

The lighted reticle seems bright enough, even during the full sun periods.

I bought this instead of the Nightforce 1-8x NX8 because I like this reticle better. I think I made a good choice.
 
I phoned Trijicon re: flip up scope covers for the Trijicon Credo 1-10x28. They have nothing. I hope that Marc at Spartan Precision Arms can
make a cover or has something that will fit. I phoned Spartan Precision Arms Friday but did not get an answer. I will send an email today.
 
I went with One Hundred Concepts caps. Since it wasn’t on their fit list when I ordered, I got the front cap for a Razor 1-10 (also 34mm tube) and then sent in the ocular measurement to ask what I needed. They said “Size 3” for the ocular. (Important note: the ocular on the Credo 1-10 is larger diameter than the Credo 1-8, don’t order a cap for the 1-8 thinking it will fit)
 
Thank you, I will wait until you receive your covers to be sure they fit and then I will order a set. Marc suggested :Tenebraex Scope Covers from Armament Technology Inc., which is a Canadian company. Are the covers that you ordered Tenebraex?
 
I phoned Trijicon re: flip up scope covers for the Trijicon Credo 1-10x28. They have nothing. I hope that Marc at Spartan Precision Arms can
make a cover or has something that will fit. I phoned Spartan Precision Arms Friday but did not get an answer. I will send an email today.

For the rear, a Vortex eyepiece lens cover fits absolutely perfectly.
 
Thank you, I will wait until you receive your covers to be sure they fit and then I will order a set. Marc suggested :Tenebraex Scope Covers from Armament Technology Inc., which is a Canadian company. Are the covers that you ordered Tenebraex?
If this was directed at me, I have the One Hundred Concepts scope caps in hand and they fit correctly:
For Credo 1-10x28:
Size 3 for the ocular
Size L for objective

I have Tenebraex caps on my Credo 1-8x28 (and several other scopes). Great caps, very expensive though. Wanted to try out these One Hundred Concepts caps, and so far I like the simplicity.

Been meaning to post some thoughts on this new Credo 1-10 in direct comparison to the Credo 1-8. I’ll get around to that soon.
 
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I went with covers from Hammy3dprints. He didn’t have the 1-10 listed, so I sent him the specs. I’m pleased with the covers.

I’d never heard of Hammy3dprints before, just found him on a internet search.

This is his “Earth Brown” color. The Warne mount is their “Dark Earth” color.

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Ok, here’s the comparison as promised above. I have a Trijicon Credo 1-8x28 and 1-10x28, both mounted on nearly identical 16” 223 Wylde ARs. I have been using the 1-8x28 for over a year, and now I have a couple range sessions on the 1-10x28. Additional context: I have previously owned Razor 1-6 GenII, Viper PST 1-6 GenII, Strike Eagle 1-6, PA GLX 1-8, and various Trijicon, NightForce, Steiner, and others in higher mag scopes.

Short version: I really like the Credo 1-10 and would buy it again.

1-10 wins on FOV at all magnification levels.

To my eyes, the 1-10 has better color and is a bit more vivid than the 1-8. Both are great optically though.

I was able to attain an equally good 1x image on both scopes. No concerns there.

As expected, the 1-10 shows slight optical degradation when cranked all the way to 10x. But it’s fantastic up at 8-9x, and 10x is still fully useable in good lighting conditions (haven’t played with it in low light yet).

Features:
I actually prefer a simple exposed and zero-stopped elevation turret paired with capped windage as on the 1-10, so that’s a nice update for me. The reticles are nearly identical in use, as the “Christmas tree” elements on the 1-10 reticle are quite unobtrusive and subdued. The 1-10 does have a slightly smaller and more open center dot- this is not so apparent when comparing side by side, because it is very slight, but I think it will be welcome in use on smaller targets. The reduced weight of the 1-10 is icing on the cake.

I have mounted my 1-10 on a coyote hunting focused rifle, where the feature set and improved FOV/optics will be appreciated. My 1-8 is on a rifle mostly used for range shooting, and I have no plans to upgrade from the 1-8 for that. It’s still a fantastic LPVO.
 
Thank you for the excellent review. I also have the Trijicon Credo 1-10x28 Mil and love it. I did not have a similar scope for comparison. It is equal or better than my Mark 5 3.6x18x44 illuminated scopes other than the Leupold's have more magnification.
 
SBRSarge, What are your measurements? The I have the Trijicon1-10x28mm MIL. Specs are the same on the Trijicon website.
I don't know if the eyepiece is the same on the HX. Thank you for the data. I will order from the same vendor.
Matthew did not know if the MOA and MIL scopes were the same.
 
SBRSarge, What are your measurements? The I have the Trijicon1-10x28mm MIL. Specs are the same on the Trijicon website.
I don't know if the eyepiece is the same on the HX. Thank you for the data. I will order from the same vendor.
Matthew did not know if the MOA and MIL scopes were the same.
I think the Credo and Credo HX differ only in that the HX is moa as opposed to mil.

My Kill Flash is a little loose, but stays on fine with the bungee tension. If you’d ever want to use it without the bungee, you’d need to have one a smidgeon smaller.


Diopter Adjustment Ring=. 1.8165 (where the cap will sit)

Ahead of Diopter ring=. 1.8125 (where Tip Grip will sit)

The recessed gap between the above = 1.6535

Objective end=. 1.349
 
SBRSarge, Thank you for the measurements. I will order the same lens covers that you have.
When you assemble them, use a small flat jeweler screwdriver to push the shock cord through the holes rather than trying to just push it through by itself. That’ll save you some creative cursing.

Once I had mine all set, I used a lighter to singe the ends of the cord to prevent fraying.
 
SBRSarge, Thank you for the set-up advice. Looking forward to receiving the product. Order has been placed.
I also got lens covers for a Zeiss LRP S3 4-25x50 and some Dillon powder measure knob adjusters.
 
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It does not. The density differences between all 6000-series alloys are minuscule.
Any info on the "strength" differences? I tried looking it up but found precious little info. All I could find were specs that seemed to indicate that 6061 was orders (plural) of magnitude "stronger" than 6064, with little info on how to interpret "stronger."
 
Any info on the "strength" differences? I tried looking it up but found precious little info. All I could find were specs that seemed to indicate that 6061 was orders (plural) of magnitude "stronger" than 6064, with little info on how to interpret "stronger."
Which temper?