As brother D_TROS said....
I'm starting a thread for Military Rimfires. Here's my Remington 513T
I Recently purchased her and have several questions but will start another question thread
Last edited:
-
Having trouble using the site?
Contact support
Military Rimfires
- Thread starter pitspitr
- Start date
I'm starting a thread for Military Rimfires. Here's my Remington 513T
I Recently purchased her and have several questions but will start another question thread
My USMC Remington 40X with USMC PROPERTY marked Lyman Super Targetspot scope:
Starting to order the parts to convert my USMC Property 40x to an OG M40x. Ordering a Douglas barrel for it. Have the PTG Knurled bolt handle bolt for it, with the hopes the smith can modify the handle to match the skinny handles on the 6 digit bolts. Will probably have a Toki anodized Redfield on it as well.
That's a beautiful rifle. It shows up in image searches often when I'm looking to acquire a similar rifle, and I lust for it. Glad it's in good hands.
Enfield No.9 .22LR. They were converted by Parker Hale in the 1950s and 60s for training and cadet use.
No.4 rifles in .303 had the barrels sleeved to .22LR, a new rimfire bolt fitted and a new .22LR rear sight.
The magazine body is empty and just catches the fired cases now.
Ignition is fairly positive. Not many misfires with these rifles.
No.4 rifles in .303 had the barrels sleeved to .22LR, a new rimfire bolt fitted and a new .22LR rear sight.
The magazine body is empty and just catches the fired cases now.
Ignition is fairly positive. Not many misfires with these rifles.
Here's my 513T. Made in October, 1943. I purchased this from the CMP in 2005. Came without sights or magazine, for $90. I added iron sights and left it alone for years, but when I got this Spot Shot scope attached to a sniper rifle a couple years ago, I gave the scope a new job. I shoot this in prone matches, several times a year. It's no Remington Model 37, but it's still a cool old gun.
My only other military smallbore rifle is an M1922 Springfield. It's in the shop at the moment. I'll add some pics in the future.
My only other military smallbore rifle is an M1922 Springfield. It's in the shop at the moment. I'll add some pics in the future.
Very nice Jaimie. Could I please get you to measure the height of the scope blocks. I'm probably going to order a pair and would like to know for sure how tall ones I need
Very fond of the military 22 rifles. In my current inventory I have the following.
Kimber 82g- I used this rifle for my first year of 3 position club shooting.
H&R M12- currently has a Redfield 3200 16x scope.
Remington 513t-upgraded to Redfield Olympic sights
SA m1922-m2
Winchester 52D-currently wearing i Unertl 12x and reworked trigger set at 4oz
Remington 40x-US marked-reworked extra stock fitted with adjustable butthook, jewell 2oz trigger, Weaver T-10 scope-my current 3 position rifle.
Plus plenty of civilian models of the same listed. Including Remington 37, Win 52, A,B,C models,and a couple 40x with standard and heavy barrels.
Kimber 82g- I used this rifle for my first year of 3 position club shooting.
H&R M12- currently has a Redfield 3200 16x scope.
Remington 513t-upgraded to Redfield Olympic sights
SA m1922-m2
Winchester 52D-currently wearing i Unertl 12x and reworked trigger set at 4oz
Remington 40x-US marked-reworked extra stock fitted with adjustable butthook, jewell 2oz trigger, Weaver T-10 scope-my current 3 position rifle.
Plus plenty of civilian models of the same listed. Including Remington 37, Win 52, A,B,C models,and a couple 40x with standard and heavy barrels.
You have a nice NO.9 there.
There never was a large amount of them and they are a treasured Lee Enfield collectors piece.
I sold my spare one several months ago and it lasted all of about 3 minutes on a collectors board.
There never was a large amount of them and they are a treasured Lee Enfield collectors piece.
I sold my spare one several months ago and it lasted all of about 3 minutes on a collectors board.
- Nov 3, 2010
- 9,688
- 20,207
My 513t, and a mossy m44. Have a mint nazi kkw also, and a enfield smle 22 trainer
- Nov 3, 2010
- 9,688
- 20,207
- Nov 3, 2010
- 9,688
- 20,207
Gimme that rockola and then the answer is still no
Pulled it out for pics and decided to look up a little more info on the 13,000 markings, apparently this stamp means it was sold “sold out of service”
Which I assume means they sold to non military use, as in commercial sales, well the giant N.Z. Means New Zealand so I guess this was made in 1910 and sold to New Zealand. Oh and it has its correct mag I guess
Which I assume means they sold to non military use, as in commercial sales, well the giant N.Z. Means New Zealand so I guess this was made in 1910 and sold to New Zealand. Oh and it has its correct mag I guess
Ask Chad at LRI if he has a take off Remington bolt handle and solder on the real deal.
- Nov 3, 2010
- 9,688
- 20,207
Pardon the digression, as this rifle is not a former military 22LR trainer rifle, but at least its a vintage 22 target rifle of the type that might have been used by top US military small-bore rifle teams back in the day. The Model 37s were likely too expensive to justify as trainers. The Remington 513-Ts were used instead. Anyhow, my latest purchase was this unmodified Remington Model 37 Rangemaster. Probably made in 1952 based on 10k serial number. (These were made from 1937 until 1954 or 55, with a hiatus during WWII. I understand only 12,200 were made). It's 12 pounds of old school craftsmanship.
....so I need to find an affordable 5-rd magazine for it. (It only came with the single shot adapter). I'll put a vintage scope on it eventually.
....so I need to find an affordable 5-rd magazine for it. (It only came with the single shot adapter). I'll put a vintage scope on it eventually.
Last edited:
@Random Guy I just looked and Holy crap there's one on ebay for 470 bucks...
There was on rhat sold for 375...
Jeez...
There was on rhat sold for 375...
Jeez...
I used one of those when in cadet forces in New Zealand. They sold them off (after a legal fight to stop them being destroyed) and are now selling fir around the $2,000 mark when you see them.Enfield No.9 .22LR. They were converted by Parker Hale in the 1950s and 60s for training and cadet use.
No.4 rifles in .303 had the barrels sleeved to .22LR, a new rimfire bolt fitted and a new .22LR rear sight.
The magazine body is empty and just catches the fired cases now.
Ignition is fairly positive. Not many misfires with these rifles.
Side note, a machinist friend of mine is looking at making a magazine fed one using the original 303 magazine case with new working parts in it.
I went to the auction at Turners Auctions in Lower Hutt. There was a viewing the day before, so I went and looked at all of them and gave each one my own 'grading' of condition.
The next day at the auction, I was able to buy both a No.8 and a No.9 that were in the top of my own grading (some were pretty rough).
There were No.4 .303 Drill Purpose rifles and No.4 stocks and woodwork for sale too.
Before the auction happened, when he found out the .22s were being disposed of, the president of the Royal New Zealand Navy Pistol Club wrote to Defence Disposals and the club was given either four, or six, No.8 rifles for club use.
You guys have seen my USMC Remington 40X with USMC Property Lyman Super Targetspot scope, but yu haven't seen this new USMC 40X yet! I'll have to get some good photos taken, but here's what it looks like. I purchased it last month from the CMP, because it looked interesting. I noticed that the rifle had the iron sights and sight bases removed, and it had a Redfield 700SA scope base and Redfield medium height scope rings installed. I have no idea if the USMC shooting team used Redfield scopes and scope bases/rings, but I remembered that the USMC Scout Sniper schools used to use .22LR rifles for training and stuff like "doll house shoots." It got me thinking that this rifle could have possibly been used at one of the USMC Scout Sniper schools instead to the being with the USMC shooting team!
I have no idea if this is the case, but the Redfield scope base and rings are definitely different. All the rest of these USMC 40X rifles I've ever seen had the iron sight bases and Unertl/Lyman scope bases installed. Even though I have no idea if this is correct, I decided that this rifle might be pretty awesome with an original USMC M40 Redfield greenie mounted in the Redfield 700SA scope base/rings! It fit perfectly, I didn't need to adjust the base or rings, the scope just dropped in. What do you guys think of this one? Here it is with my other USMC Remington 40X:
I have no idea if this is the case, but the Redfield scope base and rings are definitely different. All the rest of these USMC 40X rifles I've ever seen had the iron sight bases and Unertl/Lyman scope bases installed. Even though I have no idea if this is correct, I decided that this rifle might be pretty awesome with an original USMC M40 Redfield greenie mounted in the Redfield 700SA scope base/rings! It fit perfectly, I didn't need to adjust the base or rings, the scope just dropped in. What do you guys think of this one? Here it is with my other USMC Remington 40X:
Look what just arrived today!
This is my 2nd Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifle that I've purchased from the CMP. The CMP has sold 5 of these USMC Property 40X rifles (with a 6th one uper for auction right now), and they've come with different scope bases. There's the typical Unertl/Lyman type bases that are normally seen on the shooting team rifles, but now we're seeing some of these rifles with Redfield scope bases! This is a very interesting development because this probably means that these rifles were used as .22LR trainers at one of the USMC Scout Sniper schools, as opposed to being used by the USMC shooting team.
A few of the CMP rifles have Redfield 700SA scope bases, but this rifle is extremely unique with it's Redfield 40X scope base. However, this isn't just any Redfield 40X scope base, this particular base was actually taken off an original 1966 USMC M40! The serial number on the left side of the base, 221344, the early squared corners, and the 40X stamp on the underside of the base prove this M40 sniper rifle provenance!
The USMC shooting team has been using these Remington 40X .22LR rifles with Lyman Super TargetSpot scopes since the 1950's. I think that these Redfield scope bases (both 700SA and 40X) were put on some of these Remington 40X .22LR rifles sometime after 1982. The Corps was still using thes Redfield base and rings up until they started receiving the first shipments of Unertl mounts in 1982. So, with scope bases being pulled off of the transitional M40A1's, there were plenty laying around to put on these Remington 40X .22LR rifles since they share the same scope base hole pattern with the Remington 700 rifles (M40's).
I'm not sure if the USMC shooting team would have ever used a set-up like this, I'd imagine that their target scopes were a lot better suited for competition than some 3-9x Redfield scopes or Leupold scopes in Redfield bases/rings. Almost all of the known Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifles still have the Unertl/Lyman bases attached, it's only recently that we've seen 3 or 4 of these rifles with the Redfield scope base/rings. We also know for a fact that in the 1980's and 1990's the USMC Scout Sniper schools used these rifles for training (doll house shoots, ballistics, etc.), and we know that they used Redfield and Leupold scopes on these rifles. The Redfield 700SA and 40X scope bases and Redfield scope rings on these rifles fills in a missing piece of information that has never been part of any public discussions. It's difficult to find any school trained 8541 Scout Snipers that even remember these rifles, or their various components, from 3 or 4 decades ago. I have talked to a few old Scout Snipers who do remember a little bit, and that's where I've found some of this information.
This is an amazing piece of USMC Scout Sniper history, and more are being listed on the CMP auction site! There's probably enough to go around, so don't just dog pile on 1 single rifle and bid it up to crazy levels. They've started to put these USMC .22LR's out there, and I bet there will be more available (there's even one with a Leupold scope base on their site right now). I hope that the collectors on this forum end up grabbing a few of them!
Here's the auction link to this rifle:
https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8561&n=US-Marine-Corps-Remington-Model-40-X-6204
The current CMP Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifle is pretty unique because it has a Leupold scope base. This is the first time that we've ever seen a Leupold scope base on a USMC rifle like this. Knowing that the previous CMP auction Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifles have M40/M40A1 transitional take-off 40X and 700SA scope bases, it could also be assumed that this Leupold base might have been removed from an an M40 variant, maybe a transitional A1. However, I just don't think that this is the case with this Leupold scope base. Had they been used on some type of M40xx rifle, we would have seen them before. We also know that the USMC Scout Sniper schools also used Leupold scopes on their .22LR trainers. I think that this Leupold scope base was specifically ordered by the Corps for use on these .22LR rifles with the Leupold scopes. I don't think that this Leupold scope base is any kind of M40xx take-off scope base. This is speculation, but it's what makes the most sense to me. Please post you thoughts on this, and please take this into consideration if you plan on bidding on this rifle!
https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8608&n=Remington-Model-40-X-Serial-Number-4714
This is my 2nd Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifle that I've purchased from the CMP. The CMP has sold 5 of these USMC Property 40X rifles (with a 6th one uper for auction right now), and they've come with different scope bases. There's the typical Unertl/Lyman type bases that are normally seen on the shooting team rifles, but now we're seeing some of these rifles with Redfield scope bases! This is a very interesting development because this probably means that these rifles were used as .22LR trainers at one of the USMC Scout Sniper schools, as opposed to being used by the USMC shooting team.
A few of the CMP rifles have Redfield 700SA scope bases, but this rifle is extremely unique with it's Redfield 40X scope base. However, this isn't just any Redfield 40X scope base, this particular base was actually taken off an original 1966 USMC M40! The serial number on the left side of the base, 221344, the early squared corners, and the 40X stamp on the underside of the base prove this M40 sniper rifle provenance!
The USMC shooting team has been using these Remington 40X .22LR rifles with Lyman Super TargetSpot scopes since the 1950's. I think that these Redfield scope bases (both 700SA and 40X) were put on some of these Remington 40X .22LR rifles sometime after 1982. The Corps was still using thes Redfield base and rings up until they started receiving the first shipments of Unertl mounts in 1982. So, with scope bases being pulled off of the transitional M40A1's, there were plenty laying around to put on these Remington 40X .22LR rifles since they share the same scope base hole pattern with the Remington 700 rifles (M40's).
I'm not sure if the USMC shooting team would have ever used a set-up like this, I'd imagine that their target scopes were a lot better suited for competition than some 3-9x Redfield scopes or Leupold scopes in Redfield bases/rings. Almost all of the known Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifles still have the Unertl/Lyman bases attached, it's only recently that we've seen 3 or 4 of these rifles with the Redfield scope base/rings. We also know for a fact that in the 1980's and 1990's the USMC Scout Sniper schools used these rifles for training (doll house shoots, ballistics, etc.), and we know that they used Redfield and Leupold scopes on these rifles. The Redfield 700SA and 40X scope bases and Redfield scope rings on these rifles fills in a missing piece of information that has never been part of any public discussions. It's difficult to find any school trained 8541 Scout Snipers that even remember these rifles, or their various components, from 3 or 4 decades ago. I have talked to a few old Scout Snipers who do remember a little bit, and that's where I've found some of this information.
This is an amazing piece of USMC Scout Sniper history, and more are being listed on the CMP auction site! There's probably enough to go around, so don't just dog pile on 1 single rifle and bid it up to crazy levels. They've started to put these USMC .22LR's out there, and I bet there will be more available (there's even one with a Leupold scope base on their site right now). I hope that the collectors on this forum end up grabbing a few of them!
Here's the auction link to this rifle:
https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8561&n=US-Marine-Corps-Remington-Model-40-X-6204
The current CMP Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifle is pretty unique because it has a Leupold scope base. This is the first time that we've ever seen a Leupold scope base on a USMC rifle like this. Knowing that the previous CMP auction Remington 40X USMC Property .22LR rifles have M40/M40A1 transitional take-off 40X and 700SA scope bases, it could also be assumed that this Leupold base might have been removed from an an M40 variant, maybe a transitional A1. However, I just don't think that this is the case with this Leupold scope base. Had they been used on some type of M40xx rifle, we would have seen them before. We also know that the USMC Scout Sniper schools also used Leupold scopes on their .22LR trainers. I think that this Leupold scope base was specifically ordered by the Corps for use on these .22LR rifles with the Leupold scopes. I don't think that this Leupold scope base is any kind of M40xx take-off scope base. This is speculation, but it's what makes the most sense to me. Please post you thoughts on this, and please take this into consideration if you plan on bidding on this rifle!
https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8608&n=Remington-Model-40-X-Serial-Number-4714
Somebody recrowned that rifle replaced the bolt with a sporter bolt.
The magazine delete....the target sight blocks.....
Somebody must've tried to make a incomplete gun run and gun again. Hopefully that's a sign it shoots good to put that much effort in it.
US Property Winchester 52C with a 20x Unertl 1.5" target telescope. 1956 manufacture. I have the set of correct Redfield Olympic sights for it, not pictured.
US Property Winchester 52D with a 14x Unertl 1.5" target telescope, factory handstop, Redfield Palma rear/Olympic front sights and Al Freeland palm rest.
Everyone have a great Saturday.
Eddie
US Property Winchester 52D with a 14x Unertl 1.5" target telescope, factory handstop, Redfield Palma rear/Olympic front sights and Al Freeland palm rest.
Everyone have a great Saturday.
Eddie
Last edited:
Recently acquired.
DCM Sales Springfield M1922M2 N.R.A.
Known as "NRA Sporter" M1922M2 by some. In decent, original condition. Bolt shows some signs of being store in high humidity, but the overall parkerizing is intact. Bore is intact too. The moving parts of the Lyman rear sight were frozen in place with rust. That was interesting to fix to say the least.
Not too bad of a 5 shot group at 50 yards for the first time out.
DCM Sales Springfield M1922M2 N.R.A.
Known as "NRA Sporter" M1922M2 by some. In decent, original condition. Bolt shows some signs of being store in high humidity, but the overall parkerizing is intact. Bore is intact too. The moving parts of the Lyman rear sight were frozen in place with rust. That was interesting to fix to say the least.
Not too bad of a 5 shot group at 50 yards for the first time out.
Attachments
Recently acquired.
DCM Sales Springfield M1922M2 N.R.A.
Known as "NRA Sporter" M1922M2 by some. In decent, original condition. Bolt shows some signs of being store in high humidity, but the overall parkerizing is intact. Bore is intact too. The moving parts of the Lyman rear sight were frozen in place with rust. That was interesting to fix to say the least.
Not too bad of a 5 shot group at 50 yards for the first time out.
I like your style.....
While not nearly as nice as some of the others in this thread I have what I believe is an M44US. The serial number is no longer legible. My grandfather brought this home from WWII along with his M1 carbine and a Japanese.25. I have all 3. The plan for this one is a good cleaning and a thorough checking over. None of these guns are worth a lot of money but I wouldn’t sell them for the world.
Attachments
That's awesome. I'd love to see more pictures of all of them. Any stories of your grandfather? Thanks for sharing
I’ll get some together. He was primarily a deck gunner on an LST in the pacific. The story on the M44 is it was used to shoot floating mines. The M1 carbine was taken apart. He mailed the stock home to his mom and strapped the barrel/receiver to the inside of his leg under his pants and walked off the ship with it. The .25 was picked up off a Japanese soldier.
He wasn’t much on stories. I asked him if he shot down any planes and he said “Oh I don’t know son. There were so many bullets flying and planes falling it was hard to tell who shot what.” I’ve got a bunch of propaganda pamphlets and all sorts of other neat things.
Hi,
I present to you one of my military training weapon in 22LR, a Mauser DSM 34 from before WW2.
Despite rudimentary sights copied from its big brother the K98, it is a very accurate weapon at 50m.
I present to you one of my military training weapon in 22LR, a Mauser DSM 34 from before WW2.
Despite rudimentary sights copied from its big brother the K98, it is a very accurate weapon at 50m.
That's cool. I've seen one or 2 that were similar on gunbroker and almost got one. Might still. Neat piece of history
usmc 40x and a springfield
usmc 40x in a return stock
usmc 40x in a return stock
Last edited:
