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View thread Contact supportNeed pickled eggs and Cole slaw to go with the beerI have my own DIY bear spray. Deviled eggs and beer.
I binged on some BearSafari (photographer guide) videos in a bay in Alaska - keep in mind the Grizzlies there have almost constant excellent food supply which is definitely a factor - and he carries both.Bear country is rarely if ever "not windy", and wind often renders all sorts of sprays ineffective, and if the spray comes back at you- your sight and breathing may be so damaged that you can't make a run for it.
The correct answer is BOTH.
At least then you wouldn’t see what kills you..….if the spray comes back at you- your sight and breathing may be so damaged that you can't make a run for it.
First off, I don't live in bear country nor do I plan to visit.Is 10mm really enough? I know it's been the latest topic of preferred round for bear defense, but are there any actual examples of it being used effectively?
Anyone hunt/hike in an area where you cannot conceal carry? Where I am, you cannot carry in any government owned parks (state,county,etc) not sure if that is the norm throughout the country. I'd like to take my 3 year old camping this year, but really only considering it if we go somewhere that I am legally allowed to carry. However, I'd need to first purchase a handgun with a caliber that works. Sold a bunch of my handguns a while back, right now my largest is a .40.
Bear spray is easier to deploy effectively than a firearm.
If you can dump 15/16 rounds of 10mm into a charging bear, I personally believe I can do that more accurately than I can dump 5 rounds accurately out of my 460ES. I do know that I personally am faster and more accurate with my G40 than I can my 460es. Also think about how fast you can reload a common 10mm vs large frame wheel gun. Obviously training more with the 460 would help this matter, no question at all, but I do think the 10mm is a viable tool. Certainly other options, 44mag, 454 casull and even rifles/shotguns.Is 10mm really enough? I know it's been the latest topic of preferred round for bear defense, but are there any actual examples of it being used effectively?
Anyone hunt/hike in an area where you cannot conceal carry? Where I am, you cannot carry in any government owned parks (state,county,etc) not sure if that is the norm throughout the country. I'd like to take my 3 year old camping this year, but really only considering it if we go somewhere that I am legally allowed to carry. However, I'd need to first purchase a handgun with a caliber that works. Sold a bunch of my handguns a while back, right now my largest is a .40.
A 1500 lb Kodiak bear killed me once.
I got better.
What type of bear you got?Is 10mm really enough? I know it's been the latest topic of preferred round for bear defense, but are there any actual examples of it being used effectively?
Anyone hunt/hike in an area where you cannot conceal carry? Where I am, you cannot carry in any government owned parks (state,county,etc) not sure if that is the norm throughout the country. I'd like to take my 3 year old camping this year, but really only considering it if we go somewhere that I am legally allowed to carry. However, I'd need to first purchase a handgun with a caliber that works. Sold a bunch of my handguns a while back, right now my largest is a .40.
This is how it is in the free states of America…Is 10mm really enough? I know it's been the latest topic of preferred round for bear defense, but are there any actual examples of it being used effectively?
Anyone hunt/hike in an area where you cannot conceal carry? Where I am, you cannot carry in any government owned parks (state,county,etc) not sure if that is the norm throughout the country. I'd like to take my 3 year old camping this year, but really only considering it if we go somewhere that I am legally allowed to carry. However, I'd need to first purchase a handgun with a caliber that works. Sold a bunch of my handguns a while back, right now my largest is a .40.
Unless the bear is charging in the same direction as the windBear spray is easier to deploy effectively than a firearm.
Is 10mm really enough? I know it's been the latest topic of preferred round for bear defense, but are there any actual examples of it being used effectively?
Anyone hunt/hike in an area where you cannot conceal carry? Where I am, you cannot carry in any government owned parks (state,county,etc) not sure if that is the norm throughout the country. I'd like to take my 3 year old camping this year, but really only considering it if we go somewhere that I am legally allowed to carry. However, I'd need to first purchase a handgun with a caliber that works. Sold a bunch of my handguns a while back, right now my largest is a .40.
There are USFS requirements/regulations for firearms and designated shooters at remote work camps when dangerous or aggressive animals might be present, specifically in Alaska, but can be applied elsewhere. Many other industries use those same guidelines. When it's determined that a firearm is required at those locations. handguns are not on the list and are not allowed. It used to be a .358 Win was the minimum, but current regs are a minimum of a 30.06 with 220 grain bullets or a 12 gauge pump with 2-3/4" 1-1/4oz slugs. The recommended load-out is a .375 H&H Magnum with 270 grain bullets.
And/or some three-bean salad. Abandon hope, all who enter here.Need pickled eggs and Cole slaw to go with the beer
Dude, that Lysol ain’t gonna do shit! Do you even live in bear county??!!View attachment 8430002that was another day in the Alaska oilfield working remotely.
Lead has better BC and SD than vapor....and wind drift IS an issue.Dude, that Lysol ain’t gonna do shit! Do you even live in bear county??!!
Actually (heh) I thought it was interesting that people that used spray escaped without injury whereas the shooters got mangled at about a 15 percent rate if I remember the video correctly. For everyone saying I would blast that bear with x caliber whatever here is a thought. At what range do you start shooting at the bear. Do you wait till it's charging? How fast does a charging bear close distance? Are you going to make perfect head shots as it's coming at you? Sure the bear may bleed out but you're getting mangled if you don't drop it in it's tracks. The idea behind the spray is you have a wide spray that has a better chance of getting it in the face. This will supposedly blind the bear and cause extreme breathing distress that will make it break off it's charge. According to the studies cited in the video it worksThe OP is click baiting us because he knows that pepper spray is marketed by the Ursa Major Corporation and was created to add some spice to the average grizzly diet.
Timothy Treadwell tried that’sI’ve heard that if you stay completely still and pretend that you’re a vegetable, they won’t see you…
Forget spray or guns. Here is the solution. Haha!