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With chevron gone how will it affect the ATF rulings…..
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Exactly... even lower courts are allowing assault weapon bans to remain in place despite a direct violation of the Bruen decision.
It will take a LOT of litigation and money yet, but I believe this matters in the long run. I know several corporate and industry supporting entities fighting EPA have been nervous/crossing fingers about this ruling for a long time, so I believe it is a good thing. It will likely have the same consequences, remaining hurdles of time and $ to overturn the ATF rules just like the EPA's. Those lower court's ruling will now have a very hard time standing after removing Chevron deference that basically assumed the federal agency is correct in any rule they make. Maybe one of our counselors on here will articulate it better than a hillbilly engineer can. Now adding this to the decision that a law cannot violate the 2nd by asserting public safety (Bruen), this in theory makes it easier for those defending the 2nd in court.
You can't get useful legal answers for free on the internet, especially not on complex federal matters with a thorny decades-long history like "Chevron deference."
The present contingency at the Supremes has a pattern of bad rulings, with occasional throwaway "good" ones and I would suggest this ruling is the latter category, an offset against bad rulings otherwise made recently, but not as "good" as people on the internet are going to trumpet and howl about.
Actual heed to a game-changing opinion from SCOTUS usually takes a while, and it comes at trial level decisions (US Dist Ct) which then are appealed to a US Cir Ct App and on this topic it will likely go back to SCOTUS.
Anyone who predicts more accurately than this above, they are pretending at wisdom they don't have. From my POV, at least.
The present contingency at the Supremes has a pattern of bad rulings, with occasional throwaway "good" ones and I would suggest this ruling is the latter category, an offset against bad rulings otherwise made recently, but not as "good" as people on the internet are going to trumpet and howl about.
Actual heed to a game-changing opinion from SCOTUS usually takes a while, and it comes at trial level decisions (US Dist Ct) which then are appealed to a US Cir Ct App and on this topic it will likely go back to SCOTUS.
Anyone who predicts more accurately than this above, they are pretending at wisdom they don't have. From my POV, at least.
It's going to open the flood gates of challenges to administrative law and regulation not found in passed legislation.
It's a HUGE deal, and while it will take years/decades to sort out...this is a huge win for the American people living under rule of unelected evil bureaucrats.
It's not just the ATF but every other bullshit agency that has made it more expensive and harder for business to compete and Americans to exercise their rights.
It's a HUGE deal, and while it will take years/decades to sort out...this is a huge win for the American people living under rule of unelected evil bureaucrats.
It's not just the ATF but every other bullshit agency that has made it more expensive and harder for business to compete and Americans to exercise their rights.
From your lips to God’s ears.
Well, maybe just to the ears of the AG in a 2A friendly state! LoL
DBD hit it, but the SC ruling on Chevron deference doesn’t make the bureaucratic interpretations of laws go away. It just makes challenging them somewhat easier. Those agencies will fight the challenges to their rulings, and use your money to do it.
In the short term, nothing will change, because the administrative rules and interpretations are in place until they are challenged and removed.
In the short term, nothing will change, because the administrative rules and interpretations are in place until they are challenged and removed.
Replied with a frownie face not because I think you’re wrong… But because I think you’re 100% correct, and it bums me out.
Still, at least there’s now a path forward…just gonna cost a lot of money and time.
What we need is term limits on high-level government employees, or maybe just one President with balls, who can appoint department heads from outside of the swamp who are hell bent on removing bureaucracies and cutting government regulation.
The administrative state will dig its heels in as the SC works to correct its overreach.
People need far too much hand-holding to accomplish anything because they’ve been brutalized into thinking ever step will lead them into more and more trouble with the oversized and impossible to negotiate with administrative state.
It will take a long time before they see it that they can act on their own accord and live without permission. Until then, the state ain’t changing a damned thing.
People need far too much hand-holding to accomplish anything because they’ve been brutalized into thinking ever step will lead them into more and more trouble with the oversized and impossible to negotiate with administrative state.
It will take a long time before they see it that they can act on their own accord and live without permission. Until then, the state ain’t changing a damned thing.
Naturally the 3 DEI hires dissented
Ideally FFLs and stamps for suppressors and full-auto weapons should be free but that won't happen in my lifetime.
And bureaucracy moves like a glacier on these changes. They can say it is pending challenge, each challenge arguably needing to go all the way back to the Supremes.
They have a history of extraterritorial regs and enforcement schemes within many branches of exec and qusi exec that can be challenged now, if the decision says what the "for free" lawyers suggest.
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