Tons of people saw the shooter on the roof, not just the BBC guy who got interviewed.
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Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!
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Uh, if I were SS and or police responsible for keeping shooters from assassinating a VIP and people in the crowd were pointing and waving at me to look at something, I believe I'd find a field of view or perspective to see WTF they were desperately trying to get me to see.
The level of negligence and what the SS and police allowed to happen was inexcusable and crossed over into criminal.
I take no issue with what you are saying. I was just pointing this out because a lot of people are assuming that the Secret Service was looking at Crooks, the "I hate Republicans; I hate Trump" but what is his motive shooter, when they actually could not see him. You can see in the crowd videos of him crawling up the roof that he was well down below the peak. He would have been invisible to the two sniper teams until he brought his rifle over the peak to start shooting.
We live in such a fucked up world now. Both sides calling for unity and "taking the temperature down", whatever the fuck that means. All this happening simultaneously as prominent folks from both sides are placing blame on the other side.
This is once again proof that deep down, politicians give zero fucks about you, and will do and say almost anything to stay in power. Add in the lack of accountability provided by social media and the internet and we are in what seems to be a never ending cycle of shit that is going to keep revolving until something finally breaks.
This is once again proof that deep down, politicians give zero fucks about you, and will do and say almost anything to stay in power. Add in the lack of accountability provided by social media and the internet and we are in what seems to be a never ending cycle of shit that is going to keep revolving until something finally breaks.
Im glad some of you 'tards think what happened is funny and your flippant memes are clever.
The brains of the last hope for America was one inch away from being blown all over the crowd behind him.
The brains of the last hope for America was one inch away from being blown all over the crowd behind him.
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there seems to be a great deal of concern about "conspiracy theories"
wouldn't the best way to dis-spell conspiracies be to be transparent with the truth ... release interviews of the counter snipers to say what they saw, release interviews of the leo that reportedly interacted with the shooter before the assassination attempt. Transparent press conferences from those in leadership of the SS.
there does not seem to be much realization of the .gov's responsibility to interact with the people at this time
that creates a recipe for conspiracy theories to run wild
wouldn't the best way to dis-spell conspiracies be to be transparent with the truth ... release interviews of the counter snipers to say what they saw, release interviews of the leo that reportedly interacted with the shooter before the assassination attempt. Transparent press conferences from those in leadership of the SS.
there does not seem to be much realization of the .gov's responsibility to interact with the people at this time
that creates a recipe for conspiracy theories to run wild
Or, was the grand scheme set up with provocation of the lefties and the dumbing down and resource restrictions to the secret service? If your schedule is flexible and you are patient, nature will take its course, like turning a bull in with the cows.
Well, I understand the conventional meaning of SOP just fine.
However, in your case, I think it stands for Sucking On Penis, which is, in fact, your SOP.
A 55grn fmjbt at 3000fps with a 5mph wind will drift 1.5inches by 150yds. Run a ballistic calculator, 10mph is 2.9inchs, I've run this several different times today and most come up with 1-2.4 inches depending on 5.56 round and velocity.
Just the fact that there were roofs within a couple hundred yards of the podium that were NOT secured....it HUGE negligence. It's not like there were 300 roofs to cover. Just 2 or 3 could easily have an overwatch on that entire area.
The only thing that disagree with this logic is because you can't tell me that the SS isn't communicating with every single agency via radio, prior to and during active surveillance.
After a whole day of listening to the MSM and every politician and pundint speak or preach about having to tone down the rhetoric the only thing I smell is fear.Now that they all see how easily a 20 year old asshat with no real military or LEO skills was able to get within 150yds of a former President scale a building unscathed and set up for 8 shots one of which hit the Frmr president and one killing a rally goer they are now shaking in their shoes thinking what a well trained well armed person with a well thought out plan could do so now its time to stop the vitriol. I once saw a video a few years back of Gov Phil Murphy a real POS having dinner with is family and they were just harassed up close and personal for a good 5 minutes before the restaurant staff made the harassers leave and the look of fear on his face is what I see now. Now that they have opened pandoras box they don't like what's in it.
We’re just all keyboard warriors here. There isn’t a single cop or vet on here with any expertise. Definitely not any private contractors that carry guns out of country.
Nope. Just basement kids here pal.
You really can’t hate the media enough. This is an actual Atlantic headline
Broski, I don't even own guns, amd definitely haven't done EP work in shit holes
I just quote the Bible and talk about the Pharisees' lies to get Jesus on the cross.
Just saw a feed where Jen "Bold Faced Liar bullshit Artist Extraordinaire" Paskaki just told the Republicans to change the programming at the convention .She stated "I am incredibly scared" Really Jen wonder why? All the bullshit you and others spewed since 2016 gaining on you.?
Everything they do is projection.
Dang!! You can all but read the Ham Standard sticker on the prop.
They're afraid of that "going to 11" from the Right.
I hear you brother… and agree from a purely logical perspective, but we all deal with/process these things differently.
Humor, specifically dark (gallows) humor is a good thing in this case IMHO.
For me it helps distract from some very dark thoughts about where we’re heading…and what we may have to do if it comes to that. I pray that we don’t go there, but honestly don’t see any way to stop this train with no brakes, barreling down the track towards a cliff.
Tell me you've never done any critical incident/crime scene response work without saying a word about it.
You're a clown.
Jeffrey Mark Goldberg (born September 22, 1965) is an American journalist and editor-in-chief of The Atlantic magazine.
Early life checks out
Oh and look at this demon
((( David Frum )))
Born in Toronto, Ontario, to a Jewish family,[2] Frum is the son of the late Barbara Frum(née Rosberg), a well-known, Niagara Falls, New York-born journalist ((( … )))
Why is the 90%+ of the media run by dual citizens Jews ?
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Hey dickhead, dark humor is a coping mechanism, and since this IS the pit, you would think you'd realize that.
It's amazing how many randos are posting here with accounts years old with less than 100 posts.... They can't all be deersnipers back burner troll accounts...
Just saw a bystander video that was between the shooter and Trump.
I'm here to eat my Crow.
223/5.56
Unsupressed for sure. I was right about that at least.
I'm here to eat my Crow.
223/5.56
Unsupressed for sure. I was right about that at least.
I am just a poor, lost man who is wandering the world looking for a hot Polish woman who will take me in.
Maybe I am a bad searcher though as I don't see many Polish women on my travels. Maybe I need to go to Poland
Some of the initial confusion is understandable. Depending on the recording and the mic and processing used is easy to mistake it.
The higher quality recordings are pretty clear, especially this one:
Somebody killed the shooter. I was assuming by watching what looked to me like the SS sniper re-acquire the target and fire, that it was him.
Why have women in the detail if there not handling shoes and clothes cooking etc
I had a thought... maybe in been covered and in a round-about way it has.
But lets say hypothetically that this 20 yo piece of shit was acting alone. How is it even remotely possible that he out-witted the enite SS teams? How is it that the supposed best protection teams in the world were out smarted by a 20 yo that got within 150 yards onto an elevated position?
What the hell are we paying for?
But lets say hypothetically that this 20 yo piece of shit was acting alone. How is it even remotely possible that he out-witted the enite SS teams? How is it that the supposed best protection teams in the world were out smarted by a 20 yo that got within 150 yards onto an elevated position?
What the hell are we paying for?
Seems like it would've been more appropriate for Jill to get the female agents given a height disparity and that her husband was the one pushing for the DEI agents to begin with...
Was just listening to Redacted, both of the suspects parents for license counselors and the shooter was allegedly working in a soup kitchen. So, the question of SSRI yes is brought up yet again. And the CS team definitely had eyes on the shooter for at least 42 seconds before he fired Trump.
Not nearly afraid enough.
President Joe Biden's six-minute Oval Office address contained several gaffes as the 81-year-old president's fitness for office continues to be questioned.
At the top, Biden called former President Donald Trump 'former Trump' as he condemned yesterday's assassination attempt on his political rival.
'Thankfully former Trump is not seriously injured,' Biden said.
Later he mispronounced the word ballotbox - twice - to give his statement the opposite meaning.
'In America we resolve our differences at the battlebox. Now that's how we do it. At the battlebox. Not with bullets,' the president said.
The shooting at Trump's Butler, Pennsylvania rally, which killed one rally attendee and left the gunman dead, has currently moved the political question away from whether Biden should stay on as the Democratic nominee.
Since last month's disastrous Atlanta debate, a number of members of the Democratic Party - as well as Democratic donor and A-list actor George Clooney - have pushed that Biden should bow out of the 2024 race, as they believe he will not be able to beat Trump.
At the top, Biden called former President Donald Trump 'former Trump' as he condemned yesterday's assassination attempt on his political rival.
'Thankfully former Trump is not seriously injured,' Biden said.
Later he mispronounced the word ballotbox - twice - to give his statement the opposite meaning.
'In America we resolve our differences at the battlebox. Now that's how we do it. At the battlebox. Not with bullets,' the president said.
The shooting at Trump's Butler, Pennsylvania rally, which killed one rally attendee and left the gunman dead, has currently moved the political question away from whether Biden should stay on as the Democratic nominee.
Since last month's disastrous Atlanta debate, a number of members of the Democratic Party - as well as Democratic donor and A-list actor George Clooney - have pushed that Biden should bow out of the 2024 race, as they believe he will not be able to beat Trump.
Is this even fucking real?
First 2 sentences are a help wanted add. Do a terror & we’ll make you famous.
Fucking disgusting!
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