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KRG Bravo Tikka T1x Balance

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thesniper

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Nov 16, 2023
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I have a T1x in a Bravo and it is way too back heavy. I added a heavy arca rail from KRG, a t-slot forend weight from KRG, MDT M-lok weights at the end of the rifle and it is still way too back heavy. The balance point is somewhere around the magwell right now. I don't wanna rest my rifle on the mag.

If I wanna keep playing the weights game by next options is buying a spigot to stick out the end and an arca rail spacer from KRG to add weight.

Any ideas on how to add more weight to the front?
 
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I have always thought it curious that we will spend a lot of money for additional weights to stick on to various parts of our guns in order to try and balance them. I have a hard time believing just how much a 4 ounce chunk of steel can cost once it is marketed as being a specialty "precision rifle weight"!

When I was faced with the same problem with my Tikka I thought about the options and cost verses effect. I chose to go the tuner route. At nearly a pound in weight and right at the muzzle end it brought the balance point to a far more neutral position and improved accuracy with a bit of work. From a "function vs cost" perspective it seems to me to be a good choice.
 
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Daniel G. Banting said:
I have always thought it curious that we will spend a lot of money for additional weights to stick on to various parts of our guns in order to try and balance them. I have a hard time believing just how much a 4 ounce chunk of steel can cost once it is marketed as being a specialty "precision rifle weight"!

When I was faced with the same problem with my Tikka I thought about the options and cost verses effect. I chose to go the tuner route. At nearly a pound in weight and right at the muzzle end it brought the balance point to a far more neutral position and improved accuracy with a bit of work. From a "function vs cost" perspective it seems to me to be a good choice.
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What Tuner did you install?
Just like thesniper my T1X is butt-heavy... have MDT XRS fore-end weight, mlok weights, still doesn't balance forward without the heavy bag. When I went looking for tuners, found these:
https://www.pmatool.com/pma-barrel-tuner-1-2-28-threads/
https://www.harrellsprecision.com/products/harrell-rimfire-tuners
https://diprecision.com/ec-tuner-v2-thread-adapters/
https://www.kineticsecuritysolutions.com/products/adaptive-tuning-system-ats-slimline-tapered?variant=39875155066995
https://lumleyarms.us/lowey-barrel-tuners/universal-barrel-tuner-screw-on-small
https://www.shootsmallgroups.com/product/ec-barrel-tuner/

Gary Eliseo will install a straight .900 Shilen barrel--any length--but that's an expensive way to get more weight out front.
Balance pic... only with heavy bag, still needs more weight out front
MDT Weibad Heavy Bag balanced.jpg
 
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I’ve been through this exact scenario, basically you need to just keep adding weight as far forward as possible. If you have a 16” barrel then it’s going to be really tough.
This rail could be worth trying https://aandjsporting.com/l3i-14-universal-arca-rail-heavy-steel/

I’ve ended up putting on a 25.5” medium palma barrel and it still needs weight in the forend to balance it out.
 
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beetroot said:
I’ve been through this exact scenario, basically you need to just keep adding weight as far forward as possible. If you have a 16” barrel then it’s going to be really tough.
This rail could be worth trying https://aandjsporting.com/l3i-14-universal-arca-rail-heavy-steel/

I’ve ended up putting on a 25.5” medium palma barrel and it still needs weight in the forend to balance it out.
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beetroot, are you happy with the 25.5” medium palma barrel? Any pics posted here? Gary Eliseo will install a .900" Shilen barrel for a reasonable price but doesn't have them in stock, they're on backorder. I'm trying to decide if a 24" Shilen would be enough extra weight up front. Also kind of curious as to how much extra barrel the T1X action can handle, maybe that's not an issue.
 
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CPTmorgan said:
beetroot, are you happy with the 25.5” medium palma barrel? Any pics posted here? Gary Eliseo will install a .900" Shilen barrel for a reasonable price but doesn't have them in stock, they're on backorder. I'm trying to decide if a 24" Shilen would be enough extra weight up front. Also kind of curious as to how much extra barrel the T1X action can handle, maybe that's not an issue.
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I've had a few extraction issues with it which I'm just putting own to growing pains, as the company that did the job hasn't rebarrelled a T1x before.

They didn't have any issues with the action taking such a long barrel, the mounting "system" is pretty similar to other riflefires so I'm guessing it'll cope just fine.

The rifle definitely sits on a bag much nicer now, it shoots well, handles well, basically once the extraction issue is sorted I'll be very happy.

A 26" barrel would be safer I think, but a .9" strait should be a little heavier, so 24" might be ok. If you want maximum weight with the Bravo go 26", if you want a little shorter/handier then 24" would obviously be better.
 
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