ATACR 4-16x42 - Usable hold distance with MIL XT reticle w/ 100 yard zero and 5.56 rifle (and mount concerns)

pot4prez

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I did some math to figure out if I wanted a 0 or 20 MOA mount for the ATACR 4-16 with MIL XT on my 5.56 rifle shoting 77 grain open tip match rounds.

I came to the conclusion that a 0 MOA base would give you better optical quality at your 100 yard zero, which you could then hold for shots out to 600 yards (which is most all I'll ever shoot).

Is it feasible to hold to 600 yards with the MIL XT reticle on a 5.56 (requires about a 5 MIL hold)?





The math and reasoning:

The internet tells me you need about 4.5 MOA elevation for a 100 yard 5.56 zero. So with a 20 MOA base, you'd actually have to dial down (from center of elevation adjustment) -15.5 MOA to zero at 100 yards = worse optical quality @ 100 yard zero.

With a 0 MOA mount, your 100 yard zero would only be deviated from center +4.5 MOA (+1.3 MIL) = better optical quality @ 100 yard zero.

A 5 mil hold (which I assume is feasible on the Mil XT reticle?) will get you past 600 yards. So, with a 0 MOA mount you will have better optical quality holding to 600 yards than a 20 MOA mount. You would have to dial the 20 MOA mount all the way out to 500 yards to get the same optical quality as the the 0 MOA mount @ 100 yards, and dialed to 500-~700 yards, would have better optical quality.

So for shots out to ~600 yards using a MIL XT reticle, a 0 MOA mount will give you the best optical quality (which will be most of my shooting). The remaining 11.7 MIL of available elevation will get you a little past 900 yards, and you can then hold for silly shots to 1000 yards. If you were shooting past 500 yards all the time with 5.56, a 20 MOA mount would be best.
 
You are wayyyyyy overthinking it. I have held for shots to past 1000 yards and over 10 mils on a 20 moa base with scopes with similar internal elevation and there were no issues. 5 mils is nothing. you will see no difference with a 20 MOA base and a 0 MOA base.
 
MBIC. If you’re only ever shooting to 600, holds will not be an issue. There are a lot of scopes 1/3 of the price of this scope you can confidently hold out to 600 with if using a 100 yard zero.
 


Got that Eurooptic blemish deal though :cool: I also see the scope as an investment in whatever bolt gun/large frame rabbit hole I might go down in the future.


Well…my scopes never seem to migrate once they find a home. Each new build gets new glass. It’s hard to break up good combos once you know they work.
 
The 4-16 ATACR MIL-XT in a 0MOA base is a really great choice for that type of moderate distance(300y-800y) platform.

Theres a wave of competent shooters setting up new Ridgeline Defense rifle that has been designed to fit this moderate distance role and I've seen a good amount of 4-16 ATACR's going on. Maybe take a look around Ridgeline's IG and ask but I'm pretty certain everyone running 0MOA bases.
 
You're not going to do very well past 7-800 with 77s out of a gas gun so I would prefer a flat base. Most scope would still allow you to dial close to what you need for 1,000 if you want but shooting an 18" gas gun with 77s at 1k sucks.