A replica Wa2000 in .300WM

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Figured I would share a bit of a project I've been working on.

I've always liked the dumb look of a Wa2000, so, I decided to make one. I've seen a lot of attempts before in the past of Wa2000-esque type rifles, but they've always looked very off to me, and the airsoft versions out on the market, aren't quite the right scale when seen placed next to a real one. They seem to all always be too small, so I designed everything from scratch and set about making everything myself.

The rifle hasn't fired a test shot yet, but I'm hoping by the next two weeks I can get some single shot, straight pull style, test rounds through it. Then I'll move onto the short stroke gas system. I was supposed to have a shot out of it last week, but, after being a bit distracted while BS'ing with a buddy at the lathe when reaming the chamber, I sent the reamer in too deep, and scrapping the profiled barrel. With the way I had the barrel turned, there was zero extra material available to face off. Pricy mistake, but, is what it is. Not the first time I've had to remake a part on this project.

The rifle is still very much far from completed. Several details in the metal work that need to be sorted. The wood is just simply roughed out half ass to shape.





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That is really cool.

The New Zealand Special Air Service trialed the Walther in the late 1980s for the counter terrorist team, but went with the H&K PSG-1.

I never saw the Walther (I was about as far from being special forces as you could get) but an armourer friend of mine really liked the Walther when he had something to do with the trials. He liked the PSG-1 too, but he became an armourer because he liked all guns.
 
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Impressive work. There is a company in the US called Rhineland Arms that makes a kit that uses either AR10 or AR15 components, depending on caliber to mostly replicate the WA2000. It's called the R2000.
 
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jwSubMOA said:
Impressive work. There is a company in the US called Rhineland Arms that makes a kit that uses either AR10 or AR15 components, depending on caliber to mostly replicate the WA2000. It's called the R2000.
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I'm pretty familiar with the dressed up AR kit abomination Rhineland makes. Simple to say, I am not a fan of it lol.


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Sniff said:
I never saw the Walther (I was about as far from being special forces as you could get) but an armourer friend of mine really liked the Walther when he had something to do with the trials. He liked the PSG-1 too, but he became an armourer because he liked all guns.
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The best gunsmiths I worked with in NZ were all former Army armorers. We don't really have gunsmithing-armorers in the US Army.
 
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Great work!

Interesting side story... here in Canada if firearms get seized from criminals, they are sadly destroyed. They are never sold to the public. I've seen a lot of historical and/or rare firearms go to the smelter. The ONLY firearm that I heard that escaped this fate was a WA2000. It was seized fro ma drug dealer and after hearing how much it was valued at, they donated to the City's Gun Club to keep. No idea how the RCMP got around that one but I wish it would have happened more often.
 
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Wow!! I was expecting to see some other ar-bullpup attempt. This is absolutely incredible!

A friend of mine had asked me to try find him one a decade back and I ended up coming across the Walther America guy. If I remember the backstory correctly he had been the one who had imported the 16 rifles and then parted the kits out to people selling the rifle, deployment case, scope etc basically everything separate. So buyers would have to pay an exorbitant amount for every individual part and magazine to have a complete kit. Anyway last I talked to him he had a single 308 and single 300wm left and wanted 72k for the kit and I am fairly certain one went to gb but not sure which version sold. However a different gentlemen who had owned two over the years described them as inaccurate and wood screwed on to a pipe frame, a cool factor but not very functional. Wish you could get a license from Walther to manufacture these I would buy a few, especially since it looks way more rock solid.

My first attempt at an accurate bull-pup was an M1A in a juggernaut rogue chassis. I wanted to see if the platform would be any good and at .75 moa it is not half bad for an M1A. I decided to go for more of a function over look and ended with something out of starship troopers . My attempt on the next chassis will be done in black instead of grey and will incorporate wood everywhere I can to get closer, unless you start taking orders...


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macethetemplar said:
Wow!! I was expecting to see some other ar-bullpup attempt. This is absolutely incredible!

A friend of mine had asked me to try find him one a decade back and I ended up coming across the Walther America guy. If I remember the backstory correctly he had been the one who had imported the 16 rifles and then parted the kits out to people selling the rifle, deployment case, scope etc basically everything separate. So buyers would have to pay an exorbitant amount for every individual part and magazine to have a complete kit. Anyway last I talked to him he had a single 308 and single 300wm left and wanted 72k for the kit and I am fairly certain one went to gb but not sure which version sold. However a different gentlemen who had owned two over the years described them as inaccurate and wood screwed on to a pipe frame, a cool factor but not very functional. Wish you could get a license from Walther to manufacture these I would buy a few, especially since it looks way more rock solid.

My first attempt at an accurate bull-pup was an M1A in a juggernaut rogue chassis. I wanted to see if the platform would be any good and at .75 moa it is not half bad for an M1A. I decided to go for more of a function over look and ended with something out of starship troopers . My attempt on the next chassis will be done in black instead of grey and will incorporate wood everywhere I can to get closer, unless you start taking orders...
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Yea, I've never quite cared for the dress up kits. Other than the spring loaded ejector in the bolt, my copy *should* be pretty much identical to the real one. Which means, it might be as much of a piece of shit as the real one lol. Either way, it's been a fun project, and if it works like trash, then it will at least make for neat piece of wall art.

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This is easily the coolest thing on the Hide in at least a decade.

Bringing back vibes of when the Canadian cops found one in Kamloops BC in a drug den :D

www.thefirearmblog.com

WA 2000 Seized from Canadian Drug Trafficker: Given to Local Club

Terrence Arthur Dean from Kamloops, Canada, was sentenced to 5 years in prison. When Policesearched his home, police seized a Walther WA 2000...
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For some unknown reason, I've favored the WA2000 since the mid 90's when I was a kid. It's wonky, excessively large and very expensive to produce (as you likely know..), but it's always stood out to me and became my favorite rifle ever since then.

I just wanted to extend my admiration towards your project in reproducing the rifle properly and giving it some proper, modern justice =b. This is an amazing project you've taken on...and I hope it achieves the outcome goals that you, and likely those of us watching, aim for!

I too am a machinist and 3D cad modeler. Not a gunsmith sadly, so I have no option to attempt the same, but I was curious what you have based off of for the dimensions externally and internally? (If you don't mind me asking, no obligation to answer). I've always wanted to access any variation just to disassemble and dimension, just for the fun of it.

Keep up the inspirational work!


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Dogtown said:
:love:..that's actually the first time I saw this rifle, in that film, leading to my ongoing interest in it.. Clearly it's unlikely to see one in person on average, so it was a rather uncommon firearm otherwise growing up.
Although first seeing it years after the film's release (and the only one of the two Dalton/Bond films I favored), as a kid I always switched the television from the somewhat (very) lame Macy's day parade, to TNT for the 007 marathon when my parents left the room to check on the turkey and etc.. Sadly, the Turkey-Day 007 marathon seems to have gone to the wayside these days...yet another lost tradition.
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I guess you were too young for my inspiration
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deadbolt said:
For some unknown reason, I've favored the WA2000 since the mid 90's when I was a kid. It's wonky, excessively large and very expensive to produce (as you likely know..), but it's always stood out to me and became my favorite rifle ever since then.

I just wanted to extend my admiration towards your project in reproducing the rifle properly and giving it some proper, modern justice =b. This is an amazing project you've taken on...and I hope it achieves the outcome goals that you, and likely those of us watching, aim for!

I too am a machinist and 3D cad modeler. Not a gunsmith sadly, so I have no option to attempt the same, but I was curious what you have based off of for the dimensions externally and internally? (If you don't mind me asking, no obligation to answer). I've always wanted to access any variation just to disassemble and dimension, just for the fun of it.

Keep up the inspirational work!


-Carson
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Main image that was the most help for building off of, was the one found on Royal Armories website. It is a very high resolution photo, next to a 12 inch metal scale that allowed me to get pretty damn close to true dimensions. Internals just came from watching disassembly videos and studying the exploded parts diagram drawings. Eventually everything just comes together and makes sense when slowing making the parts diagram pieces into 3d models.


And yea, I should've been making my gas block, but instead, have been making the bipod with all of it's pieces, simply because of looks. Gun looks weird without the bipod on it.

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Wonko_The_Sane said:
Main image that was the most help for building off of, was the one found on Royal Armories website. It is a very high resolution photo, next to a 12 inch metal scale that allowed me to get pretty damn close to true dimensions...
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You should have taken the time to fly to Leeds and measure it yourself :)

Yes, been in the back room there and had them pull out obscure stuff, photographed and disassembled and measured. You need advance permission, and a good reason for them to grant it, but if you do have one for research etc then it's a very cool collection, nice people.
 
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Well... The Wa2000 looks about the same, but, inside there now is about 80% of a completed gas system. Hoping in another week or two to have some working ejections, which I can then progress to having reliable mag feeding. The list of required metal work is slowly dwindling, and then onto the wood I'll progress. Future planning, after wood, metal will be sent out for type III and type II anidizing, with steel bits to be black nitride coated.

I tend to forget to take pictures of pieces when apart. Usually more focused on fitment when finishing up a part. Will try and start to take more progress pieces of individual parts as they get made, or when the rifle is stripped down.
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I know this is a personal project, but any chance you’d be thinking about producing these for others? Your work looks awesome so far and I’d be keenly interested if so!
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I wish I could get a manufacturers license and make a small batch, but realistically this is the only one I'll be making. Who knows, maybe the future will change though.



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Haven't done much in the last couple of weeks. Motivation to stay late and work on it comes and goes. Did manage to flute the barrel though finally. Barrel still needs the gas port drilled in. Gas block still needs to be drilled out and finished for the piston to fit, and the inertia block still needs to be remade from the test aluminum one to steel.
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