On this week's episode of "WTF"....

dankcincy · Jul 23, 2024

Can we hit the pause button on the historical events for a day or two please?
I wouldn't be surprised to pick up my phone in the morning to see that China made a move to take Taiwan. If they were going to do it, now would be the time.
That drags us into WW3 and I can't imagine it would be too big of a leap to some sort of executive action declaring some sort of national emergency in order to suspend the election.

Soulezoo · Jul 23, 2024

dankcincy said:
Can we hit the pause button on the historical events for a day or two please?
I wouldn't be surprised to pick up my phone in the morning to see that China made a move to take Taiwan. If they were going to do it, now would be the time.
That drags us into WW3 and I can't imagine it would be too big of a leap to some sort of executive action declaring some sort of national emergency in order to suspend the election.

Now would not be the time. Ocean patterns are not favorable until October sometime.

johnnycat · Jul 23, 2024

Soulezoo said:
Now would not be the time. Ocean patterns are not favorable until October sometime.

Dumb it down for me and explain, please

7.62willdo · Jul 23, 2024

johnnycat said:
Dumb it down for me and explain, please

Tides have played a critical roll in every war and when not taken into consideration properly have cost many lives

johnnycat · Jul 23, 2024

7.62willdo said:
Tides have played a critical roll in every war and when not taken into consideration properly have cost many lives

Are we talking about tides or currents or something else and what ebb and flow pattern makes it undesirable to attack Taiwan in October?

rtB · Jul 23, 2024

Monsoon season western pacific

The Western Pacific Monsoon (WPM) refers to the seasonal shift in wind patterns and precipitation over the western Pacific Ocean and surrounding regions. While the Indian monsoon receives more attention, the WPM is a significant weather phenomenon that affects countries such as Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, and parts of Southeast Asia.

Timing and Characteristics

The WPM typically begins in late spring to early summer, around May or June, and lasts until late summer or early fall, around September or October. During this period, the subtropical high-pressure belt shifts northward, and the trade winds weaken, allowing moist air from the western Pacific to flow into the region.

DuneBoer · Jul 23, 2024

dankcincy said:
Can we hit the pause button on the historical events for a day or two please?
I wouldn't be surprised to pick up my phone in the morning to see that China made a move to take Taiwan. If they were going to do it, now would be the time.
That drags us into WW3 and I can't imagine it would be too big of a leap to some sort of executive action declaring some sort of national emergency in order to suspend the election.

Suspend the election? They had a presidential election DURING WW2. Not going to happen.

Soulezoo · Jul 23, 2024

johnnycat said:
Dumb it down for me and explain, please

Explained well in posts above.

Sean the Nailer · Jul 23, 2024

rtB said:
Monsoon season western pacific

The Western Pacific Monsoon (WPM) refers to the seasonal shift in wind patterns and precipitation over the western Pacific Ocean and surrounding regions. While the Indian monsoon receives more attention, the WPM is a significant weather phenomenon that affects countries such as Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, and parts of Southeast Asia.

Timing and Characteristics

The WPM typically begins in late spring to early summer, around May or June, and lasts until late summer or early fall, around September or October. During this period, the subtropical high-pressure belt shifts northward, and the trade winds weaken, allowing moist air from the western Pacific to flow into the region.

Well done, you deserve 'the Kane' for this post!

Detroit_1 · Jul 23, 2024

dankcincy said:
China made a move to take Taiwan...... That drags us into WW3 and I can't imagine it would be too big of a leap to some sort of executive action declaring some sort of national emergency in order to suspend the election.

May I ask everyone a question or two here?

Do you feel as though history would substantially support the idea that the United States of America has principally encouraged, supported, and enabled China to go from impoverished and backward in the 1950's, to the status of an economic giant and an extremely influential nation state that it is today? (Please leave discussions of right / wrong, legal / illegal out of it - did the above happen?)

If you think the above is an accurate statement - can you explain why 'America (the real powers)' would seek to destroy that investment in time, effort, money, and cultivation of power and status by China around globe by generating a significant conflict over a strip of land that would swallowed up by China if the dollar lost it's status?

johnnycat · Jul 23, 2024

Detroit_1 said:
May I ask everyone a question or two here?

Do you feel as though history would substantially support the idea that the United States of America has principally encouraged, supported, and enabled China to go from impoverished and backward in the 1950's, to the status of an economic giant and an extremely influential nation state that it is today? (Please leave discussions of right / wrong, legal / illegal out of it - did the above happen?)

If you think the above is an accurate statement - can you explain why 'America (the real powers)' would seek to destroy that investment in time, effort, money, and cultivation of power and status by China around globe by generating a significant conflict over a strip of land that would swallowed up by China if the dollar lost it's status?

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Detroit_1 · Jul 23, 2024

Maybe I earned that one - LOL.

But seriously - don't answer it publicly - but think carefully about the question. In the short term anyway - it is unlikely that we will have conflict over Taiwan.

918v · Jul 23, 2024

johnnycat said:
Dumb it down for me and explain, please

Godzilla comes out of hibernation in September.

BurtG · Jul 23, 2024

Detroit_1 said:
May I ask everyone a question or two here?

Do you feel as though history would substantially support the idea that the United States of America has principally encouraged, supported, and enabled China to go from impoverished and backward in the 1950's, to the status of an economic giant and an extremely influential nation state that it is today? (Please leave discussions of right / wrong, legal / illegal out of it - did the above happen?)

If you think the above is an accurate statement - can you explain why 'America (the real powers)' would seek to destroy that investment in time, effort, money, and cultivation of power and status by China around globe by generating a significant conflict over a strip of land that would swallowed up by China if the dollar lost it's status?

I smell something

Darryle · Jul 23, 2024

BurtG said:
I smell something

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While there is a 7 yr gap in posts, the verbiage is very similar in the first few and these last few. If he's a glowie, he's researched the part and assimilated the role nearly to perfection

Soulezoo · Jul 24, 2024

Detroit_1 said:
May I ask everyone a question or two here?

Do you feel as though history would substantially support the idea that the United States of America has principally encouraged, supported, and enabled China to go from impoverished and backward in the 1950's, to the status of an economic giant and an extremely influential nation state that it is today? (Please leave discussions of right / wrong, legal / illegal out of it - did the above happen?)

If you think the above is an accurate statement - can you explain why 'America (the real powers)' would seek to destroy that investment in time, effort, money, and cultivation of power and status by China around globe by generating a significant conflict over a strip of land that would swallowed up by China if the dollar lost it's status?

Henry Kissinger I am not. That said, your post has to begin with Nixon and his efforts to open up China, which before was as backwards and closed off as North Korea is today. Now I believe that Nixon had the best of intentions for everyone involved in those efforts. Watch some of his interviews on the subject that he gave after he started to come back out of exile. He was really quite brilliant in this regard and in hindsight, very prescient.

The real damage started with Clinton and his efforts to get China most favored nation status and an entry into the WEF. Then I would say your post starts to apply. The problem began when China got these things, turned the economy into a capitalist one (I would argue a fascist one along the lines of 1930's Germany and Italy), and basically played the world (especially the US) as they did everything that Clinton's plan was supposed to discourage. This not only enriched the CCP, it emboldened it to do things and project power that they otherwise would not have been able to do.

Eostech · Jul 24, 2024

dankcincy said:
China made a move to take Taiwan. If they were going to do it, now would be the time.

China ain’t ready yet, if this happened in five years time it might be a different story.

Detroit_1 · Jul 24, 2024

Soulezoo said:
Henry Kissinger I am not. That said, your post has to begin with Nixon and his efforts to open up China, which before was as backwards and closed off as North Korea is today. Now I believe that Nixon had the best of intentions for everyone involved in those efforts. Watch some of his interviews on the subject that he gave after he started to come back out of exile. He was really quite brilliant in this regard and in hindsight, very prescient.

The real damage started with Clinton and his efforts to get China most favored nation status and an entry into the WEF. Then I would say your post starts to apply. The problem began when China got these things, turned the economy into a capitalist one (I would argue a fascist one along the lines of 1930's Germany and Italy), and basically played the world (especially the US) as they did everything that Clinton's plan was supposed to discourage. This not only enriched the CCP, it emboldened it to do things and project power that they otherwise would not have been able to do.

Pretty good observations.

A cultivated relationship wherein an undisputed dominant group willingly shared with a culture that it had little to nothing in common with / was antithetical to itself - so as to lift them out of near nation wide abject poverty and backwardness.

UKDslayer · Jul 24, 2024

rtB said:
Monsoon season western pacific

The Western Pacific Monsoon (WPM) refers to the seasonal shift in wind patterns and precipitation over the western Pacific Ocean and surrounding regions. While the Indian monsoon receives more attention, the WPM is a significant weather phenomenon that affects countries such as Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, and parts of Southeast Asia.

Timing and Characteristics

The WPM typically begins in late spring to early summer, around May or June, and lasts until late summer or early fall, around September or October. During this period, the subtropical high-pressure belt shifts northward, and the trade winds weaken, allowing moist air from the western Pacific to flow into the region.

But now don't we have control over certain things - maybe not major tides but enough weather modification to change outcomes since the Korean War. Do we really know how much I can do HARRP can do? Suboceanic volcano/earthquakes and such?

UKDslayer · Jul 24, 2024

DuneBoer said:
Suspend the election? They had a presidential election DURING WW2. Not going to happen.

Why suspend they have mastered at least six solid ways to cheat?

dankcincy · Jul 24, 2024

UKDslayer said:
Why suspend I have mastered at least six solid ways to cheat?

I don't think they will be able to get away with it on the level that's going to be needed.

BurtG · Jul 24, 2024

dankcincy said:
I don't think they will be able to get away with it on the level that's going to be needed.

Essentially all those no ID states are honor system voting.

I only ask you to think about the security on our currency.
1. watermark on all bills
2. color shifting ink that changes color by tilting the bills
3. vertical security thread that changes color under UV light
4. 3-D security strip woven into the paper that changes when the light shifts
5. every note is serialized that shows you exactly where and when the note was made

I'd specifically like to point to #5. Just serializing ballots, by itself, would not eliminate the ability to find fraud vis a vis identity theft and multiple voting under alias by the same person, but it would completely stop the organized mass ballot dumping that was done to steal the 2020 election.

At a bare minimum the right must pass an election integrity bill that mandates all federal ballots must be serialized to prevent fraud. Imagine what would happen to our economy and society if anyone could just print money on any computer by scanning it and hitting print. That is literally where we are with no ID, and unrestricted mail in voting.

This is fucking insane, period, and anyone who opposes it absolutely intends to cheat and defraud the vote.

Credit to @Fig for the insight

232593 · Jul 24, 2024

Detroit_1 said:
May I ask everyone a question or two here?

Do you feel as though history would substantially support the idea that the United States of America has principally encouraged, supported, and enabled China to go from impoverished and backward in the 1950's, to the status of an economic giant and an extremely influential nation state that it is today? (Please leave discussions of right / wrong, legal / illegal out of it - did the above happen?)

If you think the above is an accurate statement - can you explain why 'America (the real powers)' would seek to destroy that investment in time, effort, money, and cultivation of power and status by China around globe by generating a significant conflict over a strip of land that would swallowed up by China if the dollar lost it's status?

232593 · Jul 24, 2024

BurtG said:
Essentially all those no ID states are honor system voting.

I only ask you to think about the security on our currency.
1. watermark on all bills
2. color shifting ink that changes color by tilting the bills
3. vertical security thread that changes color under UV light
4. 3-D security strip woven into the paper that changes when the light shifts
5. every note is serialized that shows you exactly where and when the note was made

I'd specifically like to point to #5. Just serializing ballots, by itself, would not eliminate the ability to find fraud vis a vis identity theft and multiple voting under alias by the same person, but it would completely stop the organized mass ballot dumping that was done to steal the 2020 election.

At a bare minimum the right must pass an election integrity bill that mandates all federal ballots must be serialized to prevent fraud. Imagine what would happen to our economy and society if anyone could just print money on any computer by scanning it and hitting print. That is literally where we are with no ID, and unrestricted mail in voting.

This is fucking insane, period, and anyone who opposes it absolutely intends to cheat and defraud the vote.

Credit to @Fig for the insight

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232593 · Jul 24, 2024

BurtG said:
I smell something

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Could it be this?

BurtG · Jul 24, 2024

232593 said:
Could it be this?
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Lol saved.

But no. Ned Flanders aee dumbass. Always be polite don’t hurt any feelings wjth truth / Follow any rules to the letter types meanwhile the enemy ignores all rules

232593 · Jul 24, 2024

DuneBoer said:
Suspend the election? They had a presidential election DURING WW2. Not going to happen.

True but they didn’t have Brandon & Cacklesnatch running things during WWII

232593 · Jul 24, 2024

918v said:
Godzilla comes out of hibernation in September.

We should be so lucky.

DuneBoer · Jul 24, 2024

232593 said:
True but they didn’t have Brandon & Cacklesnatch running things during WWII

Yeah they had a president that committed suicide and they covered it up.

dankcincy · Jul 27, 2024

BurtG said:
This is fucking insane, period, and anyone who opposes it absolutely intends to cheat and defraud the vote.

Secure elections shouldn't even be a partisan issue.
These dipshits don't seem to understand "What's good for the goose is good for the gander".
We see it all the time in all kinds of issues. Towing the party line takes priority over common fucking sense. It's ridiculous

armorpl8chikn · Jul 27, 2024

rtB said:
Monsoon season western pacific

The Western Pacific Monsoon (WPM) refers to the seasonal shift in wind patterns and precipitation over the western Pacific Ocean and surrounding regions. While the Indian monsoon receives more attention, the WPM is a significant weather phenomenon that affects countries such as Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, and parts of Southeast Asia.

Timing and Characteristics

The WPM typically begins in late spring to early summer, around May or June, and lasts until late summer or early fall, around September or October. During this period, the subtropical high-pressure belt shifts northward, and the trade winds weaken, allowing moist air from the western Pacific to flow into the region.

What?
Im tired and lazy, from a long land voyage.
Couldnt find Big Daddy Kane..
Have to settle for a Belfort.

dankcincy · Jul 31, 2024

232593 · Jul 31, 2024

dankcincy said:

Might be a topic worthy of its own thread.

cas6969 · Jul 31, 2024

Historically it's a perfect time for WW3. Our military is in sad shape, we're deep in debt and our reserves of materials is depleted.

It shouldn't last long. Once Walmart goes out of business and 2 slot toasters start going for $500, the American public will be begging President Harris to surrender.

Gunfighter14e2 · Jul 31, 2024

cas6969 said:
Once Walmart goes out of business and 2 slot toasters start going for $500, the American public will be begging President Harris to surrender.

Hopefully, not before all the dead weight in this country is removed,...

Short-bus · Jul 31, 2024

johnnycat said:
Dumb it down for me and explain, please

Weather bad, big waves, make boat go side to side and men in boat get sick. (best I got)

kthomas · Jul 31, 2024

cas6969 said:
Historically it's a perfect time for WW3. Our military is in sad shape, we're deep in debt and our reserves of materials is depleted.

It shouldn't last long. Once Walmart goes out of business and 2 slot toasters start going for $500, the American public will be begging President Harris to surrender.

Nukes flying will end it in short order.

And those that aren't among the few billion dead would wish they were.

232593 · Jul 31, 2024

kthomas said:
Nukes flying will end it in short order.

And those that aren't among the few billion dead would wish they were.

Speaking of canned sunshine, one has to wonder about this

Cold War experiment 'gone wrong' with one place 'moments from nuclear disaster'

Residents of Savannah, Georgia, could potentially be under threat from an undetonated nuclear bomb that lies in the murky depths of a nearby river after being dropped by a US Air Force plane

www.dailystar.co.uk

kthomas · Jul 31, 2024

232593 said:
Speaking of canned sunshine, one has to wonder about this

Cold War experiment 'gone wrong' with one place 'moments from nuclear disaster'

Residents of Savannah, Georgia, could potentially be under threat from an undetonated nuclear bomb that lies in the murky depths of a nearby river after being dropped by a US Air Force plane

www.dailystar.co.uk

That's terrifying.

Our hubris is stupefying and lethal. We are just one small accident or misjudgment away from igniting an existential crisis that would destroy civilization and almost all lives on this planet.

Besides the horrifying immediate consequences of that bomb getting into an unstable state and detonating (water can be a pretty hostile environment) - what would the response to that be? Would our government acknowledge that it was our own mistake? Would the government even know that a nuclear explosion on our soil was a remnant from one of our own accidents? Would it be used as an excuse to let nukes fly - either out of ignorance or willful deception to avoid the truth?

I have zero faith in our government and other nuclear powers to not use such weapons. Its only a matter of time.

232593 · Jul 31, 2024

kthomas said:
That's terrifying.

Our hubris is stupefying and lethal. We are just one small accident or misjudgment away from igniting an existential crisis that would destroy civilization and almost all lives on this planet.

Besides the horrifying immediate consequences of that bomb getting into an unstable state and detonating (water can be a pretty hostile environment) - what would the response to that be? Would our government acknowledge that it was our own mistake? Would the government even know that a nuclear explosion on our soil was a remnant from one of our own accidents? Would it be used as an excuse to let nukes fly - either out of ignorance or willful deception to avoid the truth?

I have zero faith in our government and other nuclear powers to not use such weapons. Its only a matter of time.

Speaking of unstable states, we have a dementia patient handling our nuclear football and a retard as second in the line of succession.

You ever wonder if that bomb is actually lost and not waiting somewhere to be used as justification for some later planned action?

Lose an M9 or a set of NVGs in the Army and the whole damn unit gets locked down till it’s found. But lose a hydrogen bomb and it’s fuck it, it’ll be fine.

All the advanced sensors available and we haven’t found that bomb yet?

What happens if Deliverance County Junior happens upon it first?

kthomas · Jul 31, 2024

232593 said:
Speaking of unstable states, we have a dementia patient handling our nuclear football and a retard as second in the line of succession.

You ever wonder if that bomb is actually lost and not waiting somewhere to be used as justification for some later planned action?

Lose an M9 or a set of NVGs in the Army and the whole damn unit gets locked down till it’s found. But lose a hydrogen bomb and it’s fuck it, it’ll be fine.

All the advanced sensors available and we haven’t found that bomb yet?

What happens if Deliverance County Junior happens upon it first?

Yeah, that's the terrifying part. A dementia patient and a retard, who are surrounded by war hungry psychopaths - it's a recipe for disaster.

There's a few nukes that have been "lost" on US soil/water. I'm a pretty cynical person when it comes to our politics and governance, but I do believe these are proper accidents. Though it is a bit bizarre that a lost nuke basically just gets an "oopsie". Our government is incredibly incompetent however, so part of me thinks we shouldn't be so surprised they can't find them.

Here's an article from 2004 where a retired officer thinks he found that lost H-bomb in Georgia, but I'm guessing they never did actually find it? https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=99459&page=1

Ichi · Jul 31, 2024

232593 said:
Speaking of canned sunshine, one has to wonder about this

Cold War experiment 'gone wrong' with one place 'moments from nuclear disaster'

Residents of Savannah, Georgia, could potentially be under threat from an undetonated nuclear bomb that lies in the murky depths of a nearby river after being dropped by a US Air Force plane

www.dailystar.co.uk

A history of US "Broken Arrows" and nuclear accidents...

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