PortaJohn

Moot to you.

What is is with retards on this site who don't have an answer or constructive input or an entertaining joke who are drawn to questions they don't even fucking understand with a burning desire to pontificate about how meaningless the question is to them personally?

I'd have more respect for you if you tried to make a joke out of it ... even a lame joke.
It's rare to encounter someone so easily and deeply offended by the most trivial things, but here we are - straight to name-calling over a very mild difference of opinion.

You asked if they would include tips in total income for calculation of SS benefits. He said they'd gladly trade the tax break for the illusion of SS benefits, and I said it's a moot point because there aren't going to be any SS benefits by the time they retire. And that set you off to go calling people retards and turds...?
 
It's rare to encounter someone so easily and deeply offended by the most trivial things, but here we are - straight to name-calling over a very mild difference of opinion.

You asked if they would include tips in total income for calculation of SS benefits. He said they'd gladly trade the tax break for the illusion of SS benefits, and I said it's a moot point because there aren't going to be any SS benefits by the time they retire. And that set you off to go calling people retards and turds...?
Well, that's more than it usually takes around these here parts. . .
 
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everyone working tip jobs would gladly exchange tax free wages in exchange for paying SS tax and its inclusion in your calculation later in life
what....
some people work 30 years for 1,000 a month in SS; other come across the border and get 2500 without ever paying a penny into the pot.
People wonder why the pot is going empty. Thanks Joe and VP
 
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Don't know the details.

Under his policy will it still be reported income just not taxed?

What you make influences what you get from social security later, assuming it's still around.
Dunno either, however there could likely be many ways to workaround not taxing tips.

Currently, tips reported to the employer (ex tip on a meal paid by credit card) are reported to the IRS by the employer. They have income tax & SS+Medicare withheld.

Tips could still be reported & have SS+Medicare withheld but NOT income tax. No change to SS in New scheme.

Or they could feasibly not have anything withheld. If that ends up the case, then it COULD change SS in new scheme.


Also & important are tips NOT reported to employer (ie cash tips). The employee is supposed to file those. Perhaps some do. More likely most report "some". We ALWAYS tip cash, even paying when with CC...

--Noteable: never worked a tip job, so there's that.
 

Texas woman Janet Mello looks devastated after being sentenced for scamming more than $100m from the US Army​

100 Million from US taxpayer, US Army, and money meant for kids......

sentenced to 15 years in jail.
Bank robbers have seen more jail time..... Her 'partner' should HAVE been charged as an accessory to this as well, but wasn't.
 
From GOA today on Mass.HR 4885:

Last week anti-gun Democrats in Massachusetts passed a partisan bill antithetical to the very spirit of the Second Amendment.

H 4885 comprehensively restructures gun law in Massachusetts under one of the most vehemently anti-liberty laws we’ve ever seen. The 116-page legislation was purposely written in a complex manner that requires tedious referencing of the Massachusetts General Laws to fully understand. H 4885 includes, but is not limited to:

  • A complete semi-automatic firearm and “high-capacity” magazine ban with a grandfathering date of August 1, 2024.
  • Tougher penalties on homemade firearms — all frames and receivers are expected to be serialized.
  • Expansion of Red Flag laws.
  • Stricter testing/licensing standards, which creates a new training curriculum that includes injury prevention, suicide prevention, disengagement tactics, live fire training, and completion of a written exam.
  • An outright ban on “undetectable firearms.”
  • Allowing the Department of Criminal Justice access to firearm owners personal data by making changes to information protection law.
  • Bans the usage of 3-D printers and CNC milling machines to manufacture or assemble any firearm without a license to carry firearms.
  • Bans the sale of 3-D printers and CNC milling machines that have the “primary or intended function of manufacturing or assembling firearms.”
  • New permitting laws for pepper spray.
  • Expansion of the current Firearm Control Advisory Board.
If you didn’t think this was enough, House Speaker Ronald Mariano touted H 4885 as, “The culmination of a multi-year process that began after the Supreme Court’s conservative supermajority issued their disastrous Bruen decision, which weakened the Commonwealth’s gun safety laws and endangered our residents.”

In the face of this monumental threat to liberty, the GOA and our legal team are exploring all options to fight this legislation until the Second Amendment has been rightfully restored in Massachusetts.
 
Tips could still be reported & have SS+Medicare withheld but NOT income tax. No change to SS in New scheme

All true.

FWIW I'm not trying to raise concern about anyone cheating the system.

Ignoring and not disagreeing with the noise about social security is a sham or won't be around or what ever agenda anyone has against social security ...

Social security "benefits" are based on reported lifetime earnings. I don't *think* the amount withheld matters but maybe it does.

Point being that how taxes are avoided (as you pointed out), income not reported or reported income not taxed, might impact benefits down the road. Sounds good up front to not pay taxed on tips but if it translates into a reduction in "potential" benefits later maybe not a "great" deal.
 
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