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View thread Contact supportLook up any firearms YouTube 'news' channel. The judge obliterated the whole thing, even going as far as ordering the ATF to send letters of 'correction' to those people that were sent 'the other type of letter' previously. AND the ATF is required to return all previously confiscated triggers to their rightful owners.Hmm, interesting. Link please.
Hmm, interesting. Link please.
You are not looking hard enough. I have at least four different videos in my feed when I woke up this morning.Other than a YT video from the owner, I can’t find anything confirming this ruling.
Link please?
WOW. I'm on page 28 of the decision right now. This judge is laying a smack down on the ATF. Judge is citing Susan B. Anthony cases as well as James Madison's writings in the Federalist Papers about what a de facto tyranny could be.You are not looking hard enough. I have at least four different videos in my feed when I woke up this morning.
Here is the official ruling document.
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See my screen shot of the judgement. It's pretty damning against the ATFNice. The AFT will certainly come back with some sort of appeal or try it again, but this is at least going in the right direction.
The judge addresses that Chevron shit specifically and says ATF was wrong in trying to pull a chevron style administrative review shit.I wonder, I know this case was brought on APA grounds, but I have to wonder if Chevron played a part in the ruling. If it did, the judge would state so in his release wouldn't he? Anyone who's read it, is there any mention of chevron in there?
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I'm like 2.5 years ahead of youBefore the ATF debacle on this I was considering one for a Mk18 build. If they're back on the menu I may just have to get one.
With all due respect, anyone on a youtube channel is full of shit until proven otherwise. Many of us believe NOTHING on the internet, so an official ruling is much appreciated. I don't want a talking head going apeshit. I want the facts.You are not looking hard enough. I have at least four different videos in my feed when I woke up this morning.
Here is the official ruling document.
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This nationwide or just in the 5th Circuit area????
I don’t know if her campaign has hats, knee pads maybe.Well, if you buy one; do so with cash, in person, wearing a Harris ‘24 hat and a covid mask. Borrow a car.
Or a lower with 2-3 sighted-in identical uppersI want a saw with an frt
I'm just being picky here, but no it's not, it's better. Vacating the rule is making it disappear as if it never happened. Injunction leaves it on the books, but cannot be enforced. Small difference, effect is essentially the same.View attachment 8465704
Vacating the ATF's unlawful rule is the same effect as a nationwide injunction.
Correct. Thats why I posted the screen shot so everyone could see the language.I'm just being picky here, but no it's not, it's better. Vacating the rule is making it disappear as if it never happened. Injunction leaves it on the books, but cannot be enforced. Small difference, effect is essentially the same.
Most reputable channels (although inserting a lot of opinions and conjecture) will have the ruling or source material in description.With all due respect, anyone on a youtube channel is full of shit until proven otherwise. Many of us believe NOTHING on the internet, so an official ruling is much appreciated. I don't want a talking head going apeshit. I want the facts.
Well, if you buy one; do so with cash, in person, wearing a Harris ‘24 hat and a covid mask. Borrow a car.
Sounds like the appeal is already filed. Plus the AFT say they can’t possibly return the almost 12,000 seized triggers to their rightful owners in the timeframe ordered by the judge.
Man, you take all those crazy numbers of "in circulation", and "recovered"; from things like the pistol brace debacle, solvent traps, frames/receivers, etc., and it sure seems like "In Common Use" should soon start to apply......So, of the 100,000+ FRT's and WOT's sold.... they were only able to get approx 12,000 which includes inventory from manufacturers.
There's still plenty out there![]()