Adjustable vs fixed butt stock

Eric32 · Sep 14, 2024

So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?

sloporsche · Sep 14, 2024

Eric32 said:
So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?

I cannot remember having anything loose on a firearm that improved accuracy

stanley_white · Sep 14, 2024

Aluminum HVAC tape on the buffer tube does wonders for me.

-Stan

Oryx · Sep 14, 2024

This is what I run .... it's perfect thickness that takes up all of the sloppiness and the teflon wear surface is designed for sliding parts. Apply to the buffer tube and slide the stock right over it. Doesn't require covering the entire tube ... just a strip or two and only long enough so when stock is fully extended it does not show. ... this is the ticket.

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sparky702 · Sep 14, 2024

Mag-pul ctr stock . it will lock up tighter than a drum plus you can get a cheek riser if needed . I have run one on a 458 socom for 14 years .

Eric32 · Sep 14, 2024

sloporsche said:
I cannot remember having anything loose on a firearm that improved accuracy

Great!

AR shooter · Sep 14, 2024

I went to Hogue adjustable stocks and grips. The rubber wraps inside the stock against the buffer tube and takes the slop out.

hlee · Sep 14, 2024

If the rifle is destined to see multiple hands, a collapsible stock is the “easy button” to fit many shooters. But, I prefer a fixed stock if the rifle is just for me. I’m not growing, don’t wear armor, and seasonal clothing differences are pretty minimal around here.

45-90 · Sep 14, 2024

I have both adjustable and fixed stocks in the same Proof Research 18" barrels, both chambered in 6 mm ARC.
The adjustable stock rifle has little play in the stock, a bit lighter maybe a pound, And slightly More Accurate than the fixed stock.
My preference is the lighter adjustable stock...and it's slighty more accurate of the two.
The stock will make little to no difference in accuracy .... it's the shooter.
So choose the one you like and don't worry about it.
I only have 2 fixed stocks and one is not in use....all tbe rest are adjustable.
Most are capable shoot 1/2" 5 shot groups, and sometimes less.
Notice one target labeled adjustable stock, which slightly out shot the fixed stock with a higher power more expensive scope.
The last photo is why I have 2 Proof barrels, never buy a complete upper to get into a new caliber.
This was a mediocre barrel in a complete Areo upper, 2.5" 5 shot groups, with the same match ammo on the same day.
Get a quality match barrel, and don't sweat the stock...get what you like, the stock fixed or adjustable make literally no difference in accuracy, when I shoot them. My adjustable was slightly more accurate in 6mm ARC ....but it's probably the barrel.

Eric32 · Sep 14, 2024

Thanks for the input gues I am gonna throw some tape on the buffer tube to tighten up my stock and I’ll call it a day

higginsworksforme · Sep 16, 2024

The new Magpul DT spec stocks are marketed as having the latest and greatest lockup feature. There are a few aftermarket items for the CTR that make it very adaptable so it's worth checking out.

Eric32 · Sep 16, 2024

Yea for the price looks good and the flat bottom is a super plus

Rocketvapor · Sep 16, 2024

Folded piece of plastic card stock.

hlee · Sep 16, 2024

I used some aluminum duct tape to increase the lock up on a STR stock I have. It is really thin, so I could build it up to achieve the retention I was looking for.

Bantam1 · Sep 16, 2024

If it's really sloppy you can use the soft sided adhesive backed velcro. Cut a little strip and apply it to the top of the receiver extension. It might be a little tight at first, but it will compress some and get better.

higginsworksforme · Sep 16, 2024

This is one of the cheek risers for the CTR: Mathews Fabrication

And then you can add the Arisaka buttplate kit. Then you've probably spent more than a PRS stock but it's adjustable for LOP.

Eric32 · Sep 16, 2024

I am gonna do the Magpul DT system with the flat bottom and just add some Velcro to the stop to make tight if needed.

higginsworksforme · Sep 28, 2024

I was wrong. Neither the Mathews cheek riser nor the Arisaka kit for on the new MOE PR Carbine stock. It lacks the slot cutouts for the Mathews female printed pieces and the buttpad screw spacing is different as well as the shape. It appears to fit the MOE plate which I guess makes sense. I can't figure out why they didn't punch out the horizontal slots like on the original CTR. Maybe it's less expensive to manufacture.

krunchnik · Oct 18, 2024

sparky702 said:
Mag-pul ctr stock . it will lock up tighter than a drum plus you can get a cheek riser if needed . I have run one on a 458 socom for 14 years .

I have a couple of those and the ones I have are not all that tight-
I am also going to all fixed stocks other than one I have a Ergo F93-
I wish they still made the Ergos-those lock up tight-
Installing 2 Magpul MOE fixed and a Luth-AR MB1 on my rifle length in .223-

TonyAngel · Oct 19, 2024

I hate adjustable stocks, but find them to be a necessary evil. They're handy for maintaining eye relief when going from standing to prone.

I usually stick with Magpul stocks and of their line, the SL locks up the best. Better than the DT. The SL has springs that contact the tube.

The tape trick works. Just use something durable and waterproof. Try not to use anything elastic. It will turn into a sticky mess. I use medical tape applied to the top inside of the stock when needed. Nothing needed with the SL stock due to the springs.

sparky702 · Oct 20, 2024

krunchnik said:
I have a couple of those and the ones I have are not all that tight-
I am also going to all fixed stocks other than one I have a Ergo F93-
I wish they still made the Ergos-those lock up tight-
Installing 2 Magpul MOE fixed and a Luth-AR MB1 on my rifle length in .223-

well that sucks . I have never had an issue with the ctr , I do have a magpul moe fixed rifle stock and it is a nice stock , I also have a luth AR type adjustable , it's more like set and forget type deal . I like it since I got everything adjusted . Good luck and enjoy .

krunchnik · Oct 20, 2024

It's not so much of a unusable issue and they do lock fairly tight-
I target shoot more than anything and I don't like that up and down wobble when on the bench-
The Magpul CTR are great stocks but it could be that I am the problem-

sparky702 · Oct 20, 2024

krunchnik said:
It's not so much of a unusable issue and they do lock fairly tight-
I target shoot more than anything and I don't like that up and down wobble when on the bench-
The Magpul CTR are great stocks but it could be that I am the problem-

I doubt your the problem , you know what you want and like .

USK308 · Oct 20, 2024

Eric32 said:
So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?

Make sure you haven't mixed "commercial" and "Mil-Spec" parts. That might be what is giving you that loose feeling.

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