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Adjustable vs fixed butt stock

Eric32

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    #1
    So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

    So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

    Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

    223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

    But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

    Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?
     
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    Eric32 said:
    So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

    So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

    Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

    223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

    But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

    Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?
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    I cannot remember having anything loose on a firearm that improved accuracy
     
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    This is what I run .... it's perfect thickness that takes up all of the sloppiness and the teflon wear surface is designed for sliding parts. Apply to the buffer tube and slide the stock right over it. Doesn't require covering the entire tube ... just a strip or two and only long enough so when stock is fully extended it does not show. ... this is the ticket.

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    #5
    Mag-pul ctr stock . it will lock up tighter than a drum plus you can get a cheek riser if needed . I have run one on a 458 socom for 14 years .
     

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    If the rifle is destined to see multiple hands, a collapsible stock is the “easy button” to fit many shooters. But, I prefer a fixed stock if the rifle is just for me. I’m not growing, don’t wear armor, and seasonal clothing differences are pretty minimal around here.
     
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    I have both adjustable and fixed stocks in the same Proof Research 18" barrels, both chambered in 6 mm ARC.
    The adjustable stock rifle has little play in the stock, a bit lighter maybe a pound, And slightly More Accurate than the fixed stock.
    My preference is the lighter adjustable stock...and it's slighty more accurate of the two.
    The stock will make little to no difference in accuracy .... it's the shooter.
    So choose the one you like and don't worry about it.
    I only have 2 fixed stocks and one is not in use....all tbe rest are adjustable.
    Most are capable shoot 1/2" 5 shot groups, and sometimes less.
    Notice one target labeled adjustable stock, which slightly out shot the fixed stock with a higher power more expensive scope.
    The last photo is why I have 2 Proof barrels, never buy a complete upper to get into a new caliber.
    This was a mediocre barrel in a complete Areo upper, 2.5" 5 shot groups, with the same match ammo on the same day.
    Get a quality match barrel, and don't sweat the stock...get what you like, the stock fixed or adjustable make literally no difference in accuracy, when I shoot them. My adjustable was slightly more accurate in 6mm ARC ....but it's probably the barrel.
     

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    #14
    I used some aluminum duct tape to increase the lock up on a STR stock I have. It is really thin, so I could build it up to achieve the retention I was looking for.
     
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    If it's really sloppy you can use the soft sided adhesive backed velcro. Cut a little strip and apply it to the top of the receiver extension. It might be a little tight at first, but it will compress some and get better.
     
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    #18
    I was wrong. Neither the Mathews cheek riser nor the Arisaka kit for on the new MOE PR Carbine stock. It lacks the slot cutouts for the Mathews female printed pieces and the buttpad screw spacing is different as well as the shape. It appears to fit the MOE plate which I guess makes sense. I can't figure out why they didn't punch out the horizontal slots like on the original CTR. Maybe it's less expensive to manufacture.
     
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    sparky702 said:
    Mag-pul ctr stock . it will lock up tighter than a drum plus you can get a cheek riser if needed . I have run one on a 458 socom for 14 years .
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    I have a couple of those and the ones I have are not all that tight-
    I am also going to all fixed stocks other than one I have a Ergo F93-
    I wish they still made the Ergos-those lock up tight-
    Installing 2 Magpul MOE fixed and a Luth-AR MB1 on my rifle length in .223-
     
    #20
    I hate adjustable stocks, but find them to be a necessary evil. They're handy for maintaining eye relief when going from standing to prone.

    I usually stick with Magpul stocks and of their line, the SL locks up the best. Better than the DT. The SL has springs that contact the tube.

    The tape trick works. Just use something durable and waterproof. Try not to use anything elastic. It will turn into a sticky mess. I use medical tape applied to the top inside of the stock when needed. Nothing needed with the SL stock due to the springs.
     
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    krunchnik said:
    I have a couple of those and the ones I have are not all that tight-
    I am also going to all fixed stocks other than one I have a Ergo F93-
    I wish they still made the Ergos-those lock up tight-
    Installing 2 Magpul MOE fixed and a Luth-AR MB1 on my rifle length in .223-
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    well that sucks . I have never had an issue with the ctr , I do have a magpul moe fixed rifle stock and it is a nice stock , I also have a luth AR type adjustable , it's more like set and forget type deal . I like it since I got everything adjusted . Good luck and enjoy .
     
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    It's not so much of a unusable issue and they do lock fairly tight-
    I target shoot more than anything and I don't like that up and down wobble when on the bench-
    The Magpul CTR are great stocks but it could be that I am the problem-
     
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    Eric32 said:
    So I have abandoned bolt guns cause I just wanna go fast now, and I am just not into PRS matches anymore I been wanting to do field matches as a second shooter. Cause I wanna go fast.

    So I have built 2 gas guns one in 223 and 6 ARC.

    Seekins DMRs is in 6 ARC it’s waiting on final assembly

    223 Lego build with a bunch of parts.

    But I have noticed that the buttstock on the 223 have a good bit on side to side play in it. So I am debating on switching to a fixed stock.

    Wanted to ask anyone perspectives on a loose buttstock for a fixed one and if it had issues on POI shifts from zero?
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    Make sure you haven't mixed "commercial" and "Mil-Spec" parts. That might be what is giving you that loose feeling.
     
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