Honest question…?

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

So, why is it, with all this tech and crap we have these days, it’s so hard to get a clear winner on election night? I mean seriously? They are already saying it may take days or even weeks, which I find utterly ridiculous. I remember going to vote with my parents in the 80’s and coming home and hearing about the winners at 8-10pm that night. And, they hand counted the damn ballots. Now we have all this shit and we can’t come up with a winner the same night? I call BS. I mean how dumb do people have to be? We got to demand some change and that’s really assuming it even counts to begin with. It could have been the illusion of choice since the beginning…

akmike47 · Sep 16, 2024

it’s by design

mosin46 · Sep 16, 2024

tech can be/is dilddled. can't know results till all the ballots have been counted and you need to learn how many to "find" later. you can hand count 1 days worth but you have wait for the harvesters to deliver what is needed a day or so after election day.

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

akmike47 said:
it’s by design

Precisely. So why are we letting it happen? Are we all really this stupid?

Skeptic1 · Sep 16, 2024

Do you remember in 2020 when we all were asking these kind of questions. We all realized that something had to change.
Voting fraud would no longer be tolerated. No more dominion, no more ballot harvesting.
We all, even our law makers, swore to pass laws to make it illegal to brake laws already in place.
It was all a smoke show. Nothing has changed.

All is lost. The republic is gone. Prepare to defend yourselves.

Molon labe

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

mosin46 said:
tech can be/is dilddled. can't know results till all the ballots have been counted and you need to learn how many to "find" later. you can hand count 1 days worth but you have wait for the harvesters to deliver what is needed a day or so after election day.

Why there needs to be a hard shut off. I don’t know when this changed but I don’t recall this crap going on for days or weeks on end as a kid.

akmike47 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Precisely. So why are we letting it happen? Are we all really this stupid?

yes

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

Skeptic1 said:
Do you remember in 2020 when we all were asking these kind of question. We all realized that something had to change.
Voting fraud would no longer be tolerated. No more dominion, no more ballot harvesting.
We all, even our law makers, swore to pass laws to make it illegal to brake laws already in place.
It was all a smoke show.

All is lost. The republic is gone. Prepare to defend yourselves.

Molon labe

Yes, I remember which is why I’m bringing it up again. Not shit had changed. Why are we not demanding it in large numbers? It will continue as long as it’s allowed. And defending yourself now just ends up with you in the gulag.

akmike47 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Yes, I remember which is why I’m bringing it up again. Not shit had changed. Why are we not demanding it in large numbers? It will continue as long as it’s allowed.

Because they don’t care what you want, they show you that every day.

Skeptic1 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Precisely. So why are we letting it happen? Are we all really this stupid?

No one is "this stupid". Our government is corrupt front to back. There is not two parties. What is happening now isn't because of ignorance or "stupidity".
Our country is being destroyed from within by a calculated and well equipped enemy. It is being done purposefully. It isn't being done accidentally by a few idiots.

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

akmike47 said:
Because they don’t care what you want, they show you that every day.

Last I checked, we greatly outnumber them…so enough people make a stink about it then something will change. This why the left wins. They do stuff and the powers that be are scared of them.

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

Skeptic1 said:
No one is "this stupid". Our government is corrupt front to back. There is not two parties. What is happening now isn't because of ignorance or "stupidity".
Our country is being destroyed from within by a calculated and well equipped enemy. It is being done purposefully. It isn't being done accidentally by a few idiots.

Agreed. So how is one to protect themselves from that?

hafejd30 · Sep 16, 2024

Kamala Wins

There,

Now you have the results now….

akmike47 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Last I checked, we greatly outnumber them…so enough people make a stink about it then something will change. This why the left wins. They do stuff and the powers that be are scared of them.

The powers that be are them lol

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

hafejd30 said:
Kamala Wins

There,

Now you have the results now….

Yep. And we do nothing. The US is weak. Might as well let China roll up in here.

akmike47 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Yep. And we do nothing. The US is weak. Might as well let China roll up in here.

They are, have you not been watching the border reports?

Skeptic1 · Sep 16, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Agreed. So how is one to protect themselves from that?

One doesn't

theLBC · Sep 16, 2024

we'll know right away, if harris wins.

n2ishun · Sep 16, 2024

Hanging Chad ?

Who's that ?

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

akmike47 said:
They are, have you not been watching the border reports?

Exactly but we might as well open it further at this point. I mean like really let them roll in. At least they know what genders there are.

n2ishun said:
Hanging Chad ?

Who's that ?

Yeah, like one time as far as I remember. It wasnt common.

SilentStalkr · Sep 16, 2024

Peace out homies! BP is high enough for the night.

supercorndogs · Sep 17, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
Last I checked, we greatly outnumber them…so enough people make a stink about it then something will change. This why the left wins. They do stuff and the powers that be are scared of them.

The left is half paid army and half brainwashed idiot. The brainwashed idiots follow the paid army. What they want is what the powers that be tell them they want. They are not scared of them. They are directing them.

mattr25 · Sep 17, 2024

I agree. I also wonder why every state doesn’t have a way for voters to verify their vote was counted and correct. Seems like it would be pretty easy. I can go online and see if I’ve paid my property taxes so what’s the difference?

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 17, 2024

mattr25 said:
I agree. I also wonder why every state doesn’t have a way for voters to verify their vote was counted and correct. Seems like it would be pretty easy. I can go online and see if I’ve paid my property taxes so what’s the difference?

Because your vote is supposed to be confidential.

Bullfrog08 · Sep 17, 2024

Skeptic1 said:
No one is "this stupid". Our government is corrupt front to back. There is not two parties. What is happening now isn't because of ignorance or "stupidity".
Our country is being destroyed from within by a calculated and well equipped enemy. It is being done purposefully. It isn't being done accidentally by a few idiots.

Correct......it is not a few idiots. It is all of us. You, me and everyone else. When asking why things are the way they are, look in the mirror. Our gov't is a mere reflection of our society.

supercorndogs · Sep 17, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Because your vote is supposed to be confidential.

I can go to a website and see how I voted in Colorado. That doesn't mean my vote was counted as it says.
That doesnt mean it wasnt canceled by a harvested ballot or a programm that votes for people who didn't return a ballot. The way out elections were designed is the only way. Taking days to come up with a result is just further proof the new systems are not making it easier, better, or more secure.

Nothing has been done because just like the fake pandemic most people would rather stick their heads in the sand than believe an uncomfortable truth.

SilentStalkr · Sep 17, 2024

Skeptic1 said:
One doesn't

That’s a problem that needs to be nipped in the bud.

supercorndogs said:
The left is half paid army and half brainwashed idiot. The brainwashed idiots follow the paid army. What they want is what the powers that be tell them they want. They are not scared of them. They are directing them.

I’m not so sure I agree. I think the courts would have been inclined to hear more in 2020 but they seen the summer of love and were genuinely scared of the result of even entertaining such things. AKA they scared of them. Scared of them burning more cities down and I personally think they still are.

supercorndogs · Sep 17, 2024

And those people were paid, armed, bussed in, orginized, trained and anyone who tried to stop them was arrested while they were left alone with their "mostly peaceful protest." Nope inside work.

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 17, 2024

supercorndogs said:
I can go to a website and see how I voted in Colorado. That doesn't mean my vote was counted as it says.
That doesnt mean it wasnt canceled by a harvested ballot or a programm that votes for people who didn't return a ballot. The way out elections were designed is the only way. Taking days to come up with a result is just further proof the new systems are not making it easier, better, or more secure.

Nothing has been done because just like the fake pandemic most people would rather stick their heads in the sand than believe an uncomfortable truth.

Well, you're just racist, white nationalist or a few other labels they like to use when you use logic and truth.

Docsherm · Sep 17, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
So, why is it, with all this tech and crap we have these days, it’s so hard to get a clear winner on election night? I mean seriously? They are already saying it may take days or even weeks, which I find utterly ridiculous. I remember going to vote with my parents in the 80’s and coming home and hearing about the winners at 8-10pm that night. And, they hand counted the damn ballots. Now we have all this shit and we can’t come up with a winner the same night? I call BS. I mean how dumb do people have to be? We got to demand some change and that’s really assuming it even counts to begin with. It could have been the illusion of choice since the beginning…

Here is the simple question, that nobody will ask.

Why is it that that NY, FL, TX, and CA can tally all of the votes within an hour or so and declare a winner when the "little" states take days to do the same thing? The big for 4 comprises over 30% of the US population.

There is only two possible answers for this delay. Number one is that they are incompetent. Number two is that they are cheating.

I would live to have someone actually ask the leadership of all these states.

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 17, 2024

SilentStalkr said:
That’s a problem that needs to be nipped in the bud.

I’m not so sure I agree. I think the courts would have been inclined to hear more in 2020 but they seen the summer of love and were genuinely scared of the result of even entertaining such things. AKA they scared of them. Scared of them burning more cities down and I personally think they still are.

I think they were scared but not by the antifa BS. They were scared to slap the hand that feeds them. That was reinforced when they kicked roe v wade back to the states. Nothing was done about the release of their private address and the thugs that showed up to intimidate the SCOTUS judges.
Take a minute and listen to what Chuck says. This doesn't only apply to Trump. It's for anyone that decides to go against the current.
Start at around the 44 second mark.

Lange Carabine · Sep 17, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
I think they were scared but not by the antifa BS. They were scared to slap the hand that feeds them. That was reinforced when they kicked roe v wade back to the states. Nothing was done about the release of their private address and the thugs that showed up to intimidate the SCOTUS judges.
Take a minute and listen to what Chuck says. This doesn't only apply to Trump. It's for anyone that decides to go against the current.
Start at around the 44 second mark.

Chuck Schumer and the horse he rode in on.

supercorndogs · Sep 17, 2024

For all we know it's really nice horse.

Lange Carabine · Sep 17, 2024

There's nothing nice about anything relating to democrats.

mattr25 · Sep 17, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Because your vote is supposed to be confidential.

Correct but I’m pretty sure some states do it. Maybe that was just the mail in ballots.

Maser · Sep 17, 2024

It's to give dumb Americans the illusion they had a say in the results. The winner has already been decided. Everything until election night and afterwards is all smoke and mirrors.

Greasly · Sep 17, 2024

Forty-three states and the Virgin Islands permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots prior to the election.

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virgin Islands, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming.
Note that Connecticut and Ohio permit local election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots prior to the election at their discretion

Seven states and Washington, D.C., permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots on Election Day, but prior to the closing of the polls.

Alabama, District of Columbia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

This seems to be the popular excuse. Do your research. Come to your conclusion.

SilentStalkr · Sep 17, 2024

Greasly said:
Forty-three states and the Virgin Islands permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots prior to the election.

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virgin Islands, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming.

Note that Connecticut and Ohio permit local election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots prior to the election at their discretion

Seven states and Washington, D.C., permit election officials to begin processing absentee/mail ballots on Election Day, but prior to the closing of the polls.

Alabama, District of Columbia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

This seems to be the popular excuse. Do your research. Come to your conclusion.

I agree with @Docsherm! They either inept or cheating and more likely the latter.

DangerDave · Sep 17, 2024

Maser said:
It's to give dumb Americans the illusion they had a say in the results. The winner has already been decided. Everything until election night and afterwards is all smoke and mirrors.

Sad reality and I believe this applies everywhere else too.

LuckyDuck · Sep 18, 2024

I strive to be more optimistic but when it comes to this discussion... I can't help but feel that the above commentary encompasses the answer to the question posed better than anything I could post here.

-LD

Charmingmander · Sep 18, 2024

Carlin had a lot of good takes. Don't agree with him on everything he's ever postulated but overall love the guys work. Have his whole box set of stuff.

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