CFE 223 for 77 Grain Pills

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I read through a bunch of stuff online already and see some mixed reviews. I found 8 lb of CFE 223 locally and I'm thinking about buying it to load up a bunch of 77 grain 556 rounds. Is this powder a good fit, or should I spend $325 on something else?

What's a good price on it?

Thanks!
 
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treillw said:
I read through a bunch of stuff online already and see some mixed reviews. I found 8 lb of CFE 223 locally and I'm thinking about buying it to load up a bunch of 77 grain 556 rounds. Is this powder a good fit, or should I spend $325 on something else?

What's a good price on it?

Thanks!
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CFE 223 is adequate for 55’s and pray/plinking, I’ve yet to find a good precision load with it but to be honest I think I tried three or four variations only.
 
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I shoot 77gr SMKs over CFE233 but wouldn't pay $325 for it, for whatever that's worth. I'd find something more temp stable, cleaner at that price
 
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I guess I deleted some stuff, I can only find notes for a Wylde 16" Noveske, although I shoot it out of 2 other barrels. I've tried charges from 24gr up to 25.7gr.

1.865"cbto, 24.9gr, shot 0.6moa, lowest SD, 2650fps. Be aware that's 96.8% fill & IMO, at the upper end of pressure for a powder that isn't the most temp stable. Crimping added 55fps and SDs went to hell. I could have been over crimping, I really don't do that ever

e: deleted the GRT part, GRT is now giving me totally different numbers & they're pretty off. I haven't changed any of the powder parameters.
 
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treillw said:
What would you recommend for 77s?
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24.8-25.2g of AA2520, R7-1/2; bullets seated to just shy of mag length. It flies and prints just like Mk262 Mod 1-I use this same load in all my carbines and Mk12 Mod 1. 8208XBR if you want stick powder, also an excellent choice. Varget works...TAC typically requires you to be at the ragged edge of pressure but otherwise a good option as well.
 
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I stopped buying CFE223; it doesn't do anything that other powders don't do better. For top velocity and easy metering, Lever is better and easier to find an accurate load for, and it usually shoots best at a max load unlike CFE223 which can get weird at the top end. And to be clear, full pressure loads for max velocity are the only good fit for either of these powders - they're both temp sensitive powders that require heavier charge weights for good performance.

If your goal is temp stability then 8208 as stated earlier is great, or Benchmark works really well too although not as popular, but it has been available recently. Either one performs better than Varget in 5.56 while giving similar accuracy and consistency year round.
 
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AR Comp with 77 OTMs:

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