Opinions on the F.A.S.T chassis

GunnyUSMC · Jul 12, 2024

I am new to ELR. I am shooting a 300PRC with a Defiance RUCKUS LA, Bartlein 30" barrel sitting on a Foundation Genesis II Stock. In my most recent match, I saw a number of ELR shooters with a stock integrated with a carbon fiber bipod extender. While I love my Foundation stock (I have two), I am considering switching to a chassis for my ELR gun (for ELR Light). In my research, I see the F.A.S.T chassis by Accuracy Solutions is one option to consider.

I am wondering if anyone has feedback on the F.A.S.T chassis and if there are any other chassis to consider that have the integrated carbon fiber bipod extender.

nealm66 · Jul 12, 2024

I just got one and really like it so far. I screwed up and thought I was buying what was in the picture and that’s not what I got so be aware, the adjustable bag rider is an option. It’s an additional $500 if you don’t order it with the chassis.

Taylorbok · Jul 12, 2024

I haven't used that chassis but the extended bipod does make a difference, here's what I did to test it out.
it's basically just a square tube with an Arca rail and clamp bolted to it. works really well and allows me to adjust fore and aft.
kind of a crappy pic. I can get a better picture if you like

GunnyUSMC · Jul 12, 2024

Taylorbok said:
I haven't used that chassis but the extended bipod does make a difference, here's what I did to test it out.
it's basically just a square tube with an Arca rail and clamp bolted to it. works really well and allows me to adjust fore and aft.
kind of a crappy pic. I can get a better picture if you like

I created something similar and think i like the result. My problem is that I am currently just under the required weight for ELR Light without the rail and way over with it. I am hoping that an integrated chassis system like the F.A.S.T chassis would provide the benefits of an extended bipod mount while still meeting weight requirements.

Taylorbok · Jul 12, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
I created something similar and think i like the result. My problem is that I am currently just under the required weight for ELR Light without the rail and way over with it. I am hoping that an integrated chassis system like the F.A.S.T chassis would provide the benefits of an extended bipod mount while still meeting weight requirements.

What are you running for barrel length and contour? I can sneak in just under 26 lbs and I went to a straight 1.25" my buddies got almost identical rifle in a foundation and I'm pretty sure it weighs 21lbs also. My bipod bit is just shy of 5lbs

GunnyUSMC · Jul 13, 2024

Taylorbok said:
What are you running for barrel length and contour? I can sneak in just under 26 lbs and I went to a straight 1.25" my buddies got almost identical rifle in a foundation and I'm pretty sure it weighs 21lbs also. My bipod bit is just shy of 5lbs

I am running a Defiance Machine Ruckus, 30" 300PRC with a Heavy Varmit contour. My scope is a Vortex Razor HD Gen III. A good piece of weight comes from the scope mount, which is a 0-70 MOA adjustable incline by Eratac.

What i did was remove the full length arca rail and attach a 1.5"x1.5" aluminum tube in its place and then reattach the arca rail to the far end of the square tube.

Below is what it looked like when i was done.

The configuration below without the bipod extender weighs just under 26lbs

Taylorbok · Jul 13, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
I am running a Defiance Machine Ruckus, 30" 300PRC with a Heavy Varmit contour. My scope is a Vortex Razor HD Gen III. A good piece of weight comes from the scope mount, which is a 0-70 MOA adjustable incline by Eratac.

What i did was remove the full length arca rail and attach a 1.5"x1.5" aluminum tube in its place and then reattach the arca rail to the far end of the square tube.

Below is what it looked like when i was done.

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The configuration below without the bipod extender weighs just under 26lbs

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The scope is pretty chonky also I think. You've got a few pieces that are on the heavy side that add up. I don't know how much lighter a FAST chassis will be though. Pull ur barreled action out and weigh just the stock and extender, the FAST says it weighs 10 lbs ish

GunnyUSMC · Jul 17, 2024

Taylorbok said:
The scope is pretty chonky also I think. You've got a few pieces that are on the heavy side that add up. I don't know how much lighter a FAST chassis will be though. Pull ur barreled action out and weigh just the stock and extender, the FAST says it weighs 10 lbs ish

Good idea. I removed the action and weighed it separately. The action, barrel and scope weigh in at 12.2lbs.

If I can keep my chassis to 10lbs, that gives me room for my bipod and keep the entire system under 26lbs

Southpaw_Outdoorsman · Jul 28, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
Good idea. I removed the action and weighed it separately. The action, barrel and scope weigh in at 12.2lbs.

If I can keep my chassis to 10lbs, that gives me room for my bipod and keep the entire system under 26lb

GunnyUSMC said:

I created something similar and think i like the result. My problem is that I am currently just under the required weight for ELR Light without the rail and way over with it. I am hoping that an integrated chassis system like the F.A.S.T chassis would provide the benefits of an extended bipod mount while still meeting weight requirements.

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If you are close on weight you should check out our new FAST Chassis Model thats 20% Lighter!

https://accuracysolutions.com/shop/fast-chassis/accuracy-solutions-chassis/

Let me know if your interested in one!

GunnyUSMC · Jul 30, 2024

Southpaw_Outdoorsman said:
Let me know if your interested in one!

I am interested in a FAST chassis. I shoot ELR Light with a 300 PRC with 30" barrel.

My action is cut to feed rounds from a magazine, it is not a single-feed action.

Are all the BipodEX tubes the same size/diameter?

What do you recommend?

Southpaw_Outdoorsman · Jul 30, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
I am interested in a FAST chassis. I shoot ELR Light with a 300 PRC with 30" barrel.

My action is cut to feed rounds from a magazine, it is not a single-feed action.

Are all the BipodEX tubes the same size/diameter?

What do you recommend?

There are two sizes of FAST Chassis, a 1.5" and 2.0" Forend width, you would be wanting the smaller one for your 300prc as im sure it weights under 26lbs. We offer options cut for mag or single shot so you are covered! For the best pricing and options direct message me with your contact info, what action you are using, and I can provide pricing! (I cant provide my pricing publicly)

-Trent

GunnyUSMC · Aug 9, 2024

nealm66 said:
I just got one and really like it so far. I screwed up and thought I was buying what was in the picture and that’s not what I got so be aware, the adjustable bag rider is an option. It’s an additional $500 if you don’t order it with the chassis.

I have everything in my cart and am on the verge of completing the deal. However, i have not been able to get a response yet from Accuracy Solutions on one question in particular and an overally review of my order before completing it.

Does the chassis have an integrated Arca Rail of can an Arca rail be attached?

Based on your experience, my cart includes the chassis, cheek piece, bag rider and pistol grip. Am I missing anything?

Thanks

nealm66 · Aug 9, 2024

The rail is integrated. It sounds like you have it all like I would if I could do it again. I’m actually really happy with mine as it is though. I shot it in a local 600 match and had 5 shots inside 1.3” before my cheap lab jack fell apart for my rear bag. I’m actually thinking of purchasing a barrel for some local 6-1000 f-class as the 300 prc just wouldn’t take the heat . It is a bit slow to get setup and making level but I’m getting pretty good at it. It does help to spot shots and reduce recoil as advertised at least in my opinion. This is my 3rd, 300 prc so just basing off mine. I didn’t weigh the chassis by itself but it’s definitely heavy. Mines 20.6 lbs with a vortex 6x36 and a 26 varmint. Here’s a 5 shot group at 200 meters

GunnyUSMC · Aug 9, 2024

nealm66 said:
The rail is integrated. It sounds like you have it all like I would if I could do it again. I’m actually really happy with mine as it is though.

Thanks... gonna order mine today

There is an ELR match in NC during second week in Oct that I want to attend with the 300PRC in the new chassis.

Great group btw...

nealm66 · Aug 9, 2024

When I called them it seemed like a second party answered and when they couldn’t answer my question ( I don’t remember what that was) they transferred me to a guy who I’m guessing was the owner just because of the way he answered my questions I got the impression he was very knowledgeable

nealm66 · Aug 9, 2024

I think elr is where it belongs but I’ve been shooting mine like a BB gun. Here’s shooting at a rock at 1202 yards while fire forming

GunnyUSMC · Aug 9, 2024

where is that? looks like Gods Country.

Pretty coooool

nealm66 · Aug 9, 2024

It’s just above notellum creek

ForgeValley · Aug 9, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
Thanks... gonna order mine today

There is an ELR match in NC during second week in Oct that I want to attend with the 300PRC in the new chassis.

Great group btw...

Which match is that? I know about the one at Black Bear end of october, but wasn't aware of one in NC middle of October. I'm in western NC so always looking for more elr opportunities close by.

GunnyUSMC · Aug 11, 2024

nealm66 said:
The rail is integrated. It sounds like you have it all like I would if I could do it again.

Did i understand correctly that you ordered the bag rider as well? If so, i have a big favor to ask... can you tell me the length/height/width(or thickness) of the bag rider?

I need that for the bag I plan to have a custom bag made

Thanks!

GunnyUSMC · Aug 11, 2024

ForgeValley said:
Which match is that? I know about the one at Black Bear end of october, but wasn't aware of one in NC middle of October. I'm in western NC so always looking for more elr opportunities close by.

My first ELR was with the Black Bear Shooting Club in March (Unholy Alliance) and i am planning to go to the one in Oct (Poke the Bear) as well. Actually, I heard the one normally scheduled for end of October might get pushed back to around Nov 9th.

As for the NC match, I found it on Practiscore.

Colemans Creek Training Center October 12, 2024 ELR MatchColemans Creek
open
Match starts: October 12, 2024 @ 7:00 AM · Match ends: October 12, 2024 @ 5:00 PM

Location:
199 Green Road
Ellerbe, North Carolina 28338

This event entails a solo rifle competition but you will be allowed a spotter to help correct if you choose. in which participants will engage seven steel targets positioned at distances ranging from 600 yards to 1750 yards, all from a prone shooting position. Each shooter will be allocated 30 rounds and afforded a time limit of 15 minutes to maximize their impact count. It is imperative for shooters to engage targets in a sequence from nearest to farthest, ensuring each target is impacted twice before proceeding to the subsequent target. The competition will be divided into two distinct categories: Heavy, for rifles weighing between 40 and 26 pounds, and Light, encompassing rifles weighing 25 pounds or less.

View Squadding

Long Range Rifle match,

Price:
$100.00

nealm66 · Aug 11, 2024

I didn’t order the bag rider. I thought it came with one because of the picture that was associated with the model I ordered. It’s an extra $250 if you don’t order it when you make the chassis purchase. What cartridge and weight class were you planning on for the Coleman creek competition?

GunnyUSMC · Aug 12, 2024

After reading your initial poist I realized the the chassis wasnt actually a complete chassis unless you included the other necessary elements (cheek rest, bag rider, pistol grip) as accessories. thanks for that.

For the Coleman Creek competition, i am planning on using my 300PRC in the light class.

ForgeValley · Aug 12, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
My first ELR was with the Black Bear Shooting Club in March (Unholy Alliance) and i am planning to go to the one in Oct (Poke the Bear) as well. Actually, I heard the one normally scheduled for end of October might get pushed back to around Nov 9th.

As for the NC match, I found it on Practiscore.

Colemans Creek Training Center October 12, 2024 ELR MatchColemans Creek
open
Match starts: October 12, 2024 @ 7:00 AM · Match ends: October 12, 2024 @ 5:00 PM

Location:
199 Green Road
Ellerbe, North Carolina 28338

This event entails a solo rifle competition but you will be allowed a spotter to help correct if you choose. in which participants will engage seven steel targets positioned at distances ranging from 600 yards to 1750 yards, all from a prone shooting position. Each shooter will be allocated 30 rounds and afforded a time limit of 15 minutes to maximize their impact count. It is imperative for shooters to engage targets in a sequence from nearest to farthest, ensuring each target is impacted twice before proceeding to the subsequent target. The competition will be divided into two distinct categories: Heavy, for rifles weighing between 40 and 26 pounds, and Light, encompassing rifles weighing 25 pounds or less.

View Squadding

Long Range Rifle match,

Price:
$100.00

Oh right, I knew about that one, I'm a member at Coleman's. If I can get my light gun put back together I'll come to that one. Hope they don't push ptb, can't attend that weekend.

binazone · Sep 6, 2024

Can anyone on this thread direct me to the registration link / website for the Poke the Bear ELR match scheduled for end of October, 2024?
The Black Bear SC site has nothing nor the ELR website. Running out of sources to search.

Thanks in advance.

Taylorbok · Sep 6, 2024

binazone said:
Can anyone on this thread direct me to the registration link / website for the Poke the Bear ELR match scheduled for end of October, 2024?
The Black Bear SC site has nothing nor the ELR website. Running out of sources to search.

Thanks in advance.

I found light class on Practiscore. can't find anything for heavy. Maybe they haven't created the event yet.
Registration isn't open yet.

https://practiscore.com/poke-the-bear-2024-light-class/register

binazone · Sep 6, 2024

Taylorbok said:
I found light class on Practiscore. can't find anything for heavy. Maybe they haven't created the event yet.
Registration isn't open yet.

https://practiscore.com/poke-the-bear-2024-light-class/register

Taylor, thanks very much. I've typed in "Poke the Bear" on Practiscore previously and no result so I guess it was looking for the exact spelling/title. If I can get in, I'll definitely be in " Extra light" class with my 260 REM. I have shot at this location before, so I'm not unfamiliar with it.

Regards,

ForgeValley · Sep 6, 2024

Heavy registration:

https://practiscore.com/poke-the-bear-2024-heavy-class/register

Taylorbok · Sep 6, 2024

They Just created the Heavy class if anyone else is looking

https://practiscore.com/poke-the-bear-2024-heavy-class/register

GunnyUSMC · Sep 13, 2024

Update on my FAST Chassis.... I received my new chassis yesterday and mounted it.

It is the aluminum version with bag rider, cheek rest, and pistol grip.

Havent shot with it yet but it seems very sturdy, even with the bipod fully extended.

GunnyUSMC · Sep 13, 2024

Also... If I like the FAST chassis as much as I hope i will, i will put my Foundation Genesis II chassis up for sale.

Let me know if anyone is interested. It is the black version and will be selling it with the Hawkins bottom metal

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
Did i understand correctly that you ordered the bag rider as well? If so, i have a big favor to ask... can you tell me the length/height/width(or thickness) of the bag rider?

I need that for the bag I plan to have a custom bag made

Thanks!

What bag did you decide on? I find the Ryan Chaney Airfoil bag second to none. I pair that with the John Davis bipod rest under AccuTac with Ski feet. This is a popular proven setup. I also recently purchased the FAST chassis and love it.

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

tomatogold said:
IMO, they have too much forend flex when extended. I later went with a good wood laminate, works well for me.

The FAST chassis is flexing or the bipod extender? Did you buy the heaviest option for the weight of your rig?

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

Taylorbok · Sep 20, 2024

Pete Cefalu said:
What bag did you decide on? I find the Ryan Chaney Airfoil bag second to none. I pair that with the John Davis bipod rest under AccuTac with Ski feet. This is a popular proven setup. I also recently purchased the FAST chassis and love it.

I just saw him at Ko2M he had a prototype bag there that looked even better than his old version.

GunnyUSMC · Sep 20, 2024

Pete Cefalu said:
What bag did you decide on? I find the Ryan Chaney Airfoil bag second to none. I pair that with the John Davis bipod rest under AccuTac with Ski feet. This is a popular proven setup. I also recently purchased the FAST chassis and love it.

I have the Airfoil bag and I like it but to be totally honest, wasnt over the moon with it. I have a different setup for FClass and am used to a rear bag with bunny ears. I tested the Airfoil bag there but since it does not have bunny ears, i experienced more movement in the rear than i wanted. That bag is not technically legal for FClass but again, i just used it to test. I have another bag just for FClass and like it a lot but the ears are too tall for the ABR that came with the FAST Chassis.

I purchased a Low Brick ELR Rear from Paramont Tactical. It is not as big as the FClass bag but has lower Bunny ears. It is in the mail so i havent actually used it yet.

I considered getting the ELR Anchor Combo from LS Wild. The great thing about this bag is you can call the the guy who makes it and he can custom build one to your stock's exact dimensions including spacing between the ears and ride angle. A friend uses one for ELR and i really like it. I still might get one if the Low Brick.

Where do you get the John Davis Bipod Rest? I am not happy with what I am using.

I have an AccuTac with ski feet but I also have a Phoenix bipod that we like a LOT. My daughter uses the Phoenix for FClass and I have seen a number of shooters using it for ELR as well. I have a JOPOD-X coming in (should arrive today) that is really intended for FClass but I want to test it out with my ELR rig as well. The JOYPOD might not be legal or appropriate for ELR though.

Taylorbok · Sep 20, 2024

@GunnyUSMC The new airfoil isn't exactly a bunny ear bag but it has a groove for your butt to ride in. it's a very good shape IMO. I can't recall when he said it will be released but it should be soon.

I also just ordered a Low ELR Brick. seems like it'll work well in conjunction with some stall mats.

I'll probably end up with the new airfoil bag once it's out. With an ABR I really don't need the airfoil but I like the shape of the bag.

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

Taylorbok said:
I just saw him at Ko2M he had a prototype bag there that looked even better than his old version.

Yes. It was designed with ABR in mind.

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
I have the Airfoil bag and I like it but to be totally honest, wasnt over the moon with it. I have a different setup for FClass and am used to a rear bag with bunny ears. I tested the Airfoil bag there but since it does not have bunny ears, i experienced more movement in the rear than i wanted. That bag is not technically legal for FClass but again, i just used it to test. I have another bag just for FClass and like it a lot but the ears are too tall for the ABR that came with the FAST Chassis.

I purchased a Low Brick ELR Rear from Paramont Tactical. It is not as big as the FClass bag but has lower Bunny ears. It is in the mail so i havent actually used it yet.

I considered getting the ELR Anchor Combo from LS Wild. The great thing about this bag is you can call the the guy who makes it and he can custom build one to your stock's exact dimensions including spacing between the ears and ride angle. A friend uses one for ELR and i really like it. I still might get one if the Low Brick.

Where do you get the John Davis Bipod Rest? I am not happy with what I am using.

I have an AccuTac with ski feet but I also have a Phoenix bipod that we like a LOT. My daughter uses the Phoenix for FClass and I have seen a number of shooters using it for ELR as well. I have a JOPOD-X coming in (should arrive today) that is really intended for FClass but I want to test it out with my ELR rig as well. The JOYPOD might not be legal or appropriate for ELR though.

He is in severel extreme long range precision shooting groups on facebook. If you can’t find him I can look up when i get back.

Pete Cefalu · Sep 20, 2024

Taylorbok said:
@GunnyUSMC The new airfoil isn't exactly a bunny ear bag but it has a groove for your butt to ride in. it's a very good shape IMO. I can't recall when he said it will be released but it should be soon.

I also just ordered a Low ELR Brick. seems like it'll work well in conjunction with some stall mats.

I'll probably end up with the new airfoil bag once it's out. With an ABR I really don't need the airfoil but I like the shape of the bag.

He’s already got them out if you’re referring to his new ENDGAME with rubber base. I have 2.
You just give them a little karate chop or two in center for ABR to ride in. Hope this helps.

Taylorbok · Sep 20, 2024

Pete Cefalu said:
He’s already got them out if you’re referring to his new ENDGAME with rubber base. I have 2.
You just give them a little karate chop or two in center for ABR to ride in. Hope this helps.

Endgame that is correct.
They aren't available yet on his website...
I'm sure if you caught him at the proper time you could get one but he only had one at Ko2M Canada and wasn't willing to part with it yet.

GunnyUSMC · Sep 20, 2024

Pete Cefalu said:
He is in severel extreme long range precision shooting groups on facebook. If you can’t find him I can look up when i get back.

I will look specifically in the groups. I did a web search which didnt help.

If you do come across information on how to find the John Davis bipod rest, please do share.

Thanks

GunnyUSMC · Oct 16, 2024

Update on my new FAST Chassis...

I took my new FAST chassis to the range for some load development and an ELR Match at Coleman's Training Center in NC. While I really do like it, I encountered a few issues that had to be overcome.

First issue was that large nut on the front that holds the carbon fiber extension tubes in place was loose. I didnt notice that initially but after fighting to keep my cant straight, i figured it out and got it tightened back up.

Second issue is that the cheek rest wont hold solid. This is primarily due to the rubber washers used between tightening nut and the chassis. I might just replace them with a hard nylon washer.

The third issue was the one that affected me the most. The Adjustable Bag Rider (ABR) has two guide rods and the threaded adjustment rod in the center. The two outer guide rods are (supposed to be) secured in the bag rider itself using two hex set screws. The problem i encountered was when i was shooting, i needed a little extra adjustment on the bag rider and the two guide rods came out of the chassis causing major instability. I realized that the guide rods were loose and not secured by the set screws. I adjusted the length of the guide rods and attempted to lock them into place. Later at the match, the guide rods came loose again and it was very frustrating. After arriving home from the match, i considered asking for a replacement from the manufacturer (and still might) but I am trying something else first. I realized that the guide rods would perform better if they were fixed into the chassis instead of the bag rider and this way you can achieve more travel. To that end, I squeezed some lock-tite (medium strength) on the end of the guide rods and pushed them fully into the chassis and let it dry. I chose the lock-tite instead of glue because i wanted to be able to remove them.

Today i checked the guide rods and they appear to be in pretty tight. I tested the adjustability of the bag rider and it seems to be working great. I will be at the range this weekend to test it out. Hopefully I got this thing working the way it should.

My performance at the match was miserable. This was due in part to the frustrations with the ABR but I believe my scope was malfunctioning as well. Sent my scope in for repair and hope for no more issues with the FAST Chassis.

If i had any recommendation for the chassis manufacturer, the main one would be to modify the design so the ABR guide rods screw into the chassis, not the bag rider itself. This way they can be more secure and support more travel when adjusting the bag rider while in the shooting position.

Pete Cefalu · Oct 16, 2024

GunnyUSMC said:
I will look specifically in the groups. I did a web search which didnt help.

If you do come across information on how to find the John Davis bipod rest, please do share.

Thanks

Sorry for delay, was traveling. You can private message him on Facebook under his full name. If you can’t find him that way, I can forward him your contact info if you send to me(I’d like to talk to you about your FAST too).

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