Spotted this at a local gun shop, 1903 Springfield chambered in 30-06 with a heavy barrel that would dwarf most precision rifle barrels 
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Found a 1903 Springfield with a massive barrel
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That looks similar to mine, supposedly built for the Marine Corp rifle team.
Pull out your wallet and slap cash down on the table and tell them to stop being a bunch of Fudd fucktards, and to hand you a 4473 and a pen... While pulling out your license to hand them.
Popular in the 30"s, commonly referred to as a "Bull Gun". Referenced in this excellent book:
Griffin & Howe .300 H&H Magnum single shot bull gun, engraved “Ben C. Comfort” with his 1935 Wimbledon Cup-winning score. Built on Remington 30-S Express action serial number 23063 (made in 1932 per Remington), Griffin & Howe rifle number 1415 was “likely” (per G&H Archivist) completed in 1935. (Repeated attempts to locate any G&H records for this rifle were unsuccessful).
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Griffin & Howe .300 H&H Magnum single shot bull gun, engraved “Ben C. Comfort” with his 1935 Wimbledon Cup-winning score. Built on Remington 30-S Express action serial number 23063 (made in 1932 per Remington), Griffin & Howe rifle number 1415 was “likely” (per G&H Archivist) completed in 1935. (Repeated attempts to locate any G&H records for this rifle were unsuccessful).
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Shame it is in Canada and importing it would be super spendy. Looks like a great shooter!!
Sirhr
Sirhr
I remember reading those old stories.
A good read.
That's 40 rods off hand, about 220 yd.
False muzzles, gain twist rifling.
And the small dim lit Shop, old fashioned machinery, lots of heavy, dark, smelly, cutting oil, splashed about. Made with real whale oil, and other secret ingredients.
Also in the air the stench of blackpowder from recently testing a revolver inside the small dim lit shop.
And over in the dark corner of the shop, one could barley make out the figures, the whispers of old men, discussing secrets of the great barrel maker,...Harry Pope.
A good read.
That's 40 rods off hand, about 220 yd.
False muzzles, gain twist rifling.
And the small dim lit Shop, old fashioned machinery, lots of heavy, dark, smelly, cutting oil, splashed about. Made with real whale oil, and other secret ingredients.
Also in the air the stench of blackpowder from recently testing a revolver inside the small dim lit shop.
And over in the dark corner of the shop, one could barley make out the figures, the whispers of old men, discussing secrets of the great barrel maker,...Harry Pope.
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Damn, I’m missing out. Need to stop by there more often. Drive by it several times a day.Spotted this at a local gun shop, 1903 Springfield chambered in 30-06 with a heavy barrel that would dwarf most precision rifle barrels
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It's odd the barrel is only 22''. Most of the Heavy barrel M1903's used in competitions were 28'' or 30'' barrels. I've seen some in 24'', but a 22' is not one that would be common at all. Do you have anymore pics? It makes me wonder if it's a Mann Accuracy device that was used to test ammo and someone just built into a rifle. I've seen a handful of Mann Accuracy Devices where guys have done this after they were sold to the commercial market. The devices have shorter barrels.
Heavy Barreled M1903's were popular in the any rifle, any sight matches back in the day before the Model 70's started to take over. Such as the Wimbledon Cup.
Heavy barreled M1903's were popular pre WWII. Every branch, and a lot of civilians had them. They were sort of common prior to WWII. It's just many were broken down as the barrels wore out and the barrels were replaced with a standard barrel since.
Here is a picture of Marine Corps Heavy Barrel M1903 taken in 1927. This is how the standard Marine Corps M1903 heavy barrel Match Rifle was configured. Morris Fisher used this rifle in the 1927 Wimbledon Cup. The receiver in this picture was rebuilt into a standard Marine M1903 Special Target rifle post 1933 when the Marines ordered all their heavy barreled rifles broken down for parts.
I really think this one is some type of accuracy device, instead of a match rifle like this below.
Heavy Barreled M1903's were popular in the any rifle, any sight matches back in the day before the Model 70's started to take over. Such as the Wimbledon Cup.
Heavy barreled M1903's were popular pre WWII. Every branch, and a lot of civilians had them. They were sort of common prior to WWII. It's just many were broken down as the barrels wore out and the barrels were replaced with a standard barrel since.
Here is a picture of Marine Corps Heavy Barrel M1903 taken in 1927. This is how the standard Marine Corps M1903 heavy barrel Match Rifle was configured. Morris Fisher used this rifle in the 1927 Wimbledon Cup. The receiver in this picture was rebuilt into a standard Marine M1903 Special Target rifle post 1933 when the Marines ordered all their heavy barreled rifles broken down for parts.
I really think this one is some type of accuracy device, instead of a match rifle like this below.
Last I checked they wanted $1100 Canadian for it, so about $800 USD plus taxes.
I'd buy the shit out of it, and then find a way to import it, for that price! Being that it's an old antique "collectible" weapon (C&R eligible here in the U.S.), they might be able to transfer it to a U.S. dealer after it passes through customs?
$800 bull gun is hard to pass up
I actually drove the 40 minutes there only to find out they were closed due to Canadian Thanksgiving. They'll reopen on Tuesday.
Canada. Probably need a note from the state authorizing the handling of a firearm. I wish I was only 1/2 joking.
Funny story about Canadian accents. I had never heard one until 1987 when I did a summer exchange training program with the Royal Canadian Navy as a USN Midshipman.
Growing up in PR my exposure to English accents was limited to the people I dealt with at the Naval Academy.......who were mostly northeasterners.
As soon as I started hearing people talk on that Canadian ship my brain was like...........wtf did he say?
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Your brain was required a bit, quite simple !?
Not.. ?
That is some amazing shooting for a 1903!
Yes... A nice pic, isn't it ?
One would have expected more an SMK than an TMK-projectile, but no.. . Nothing wrong with it.. .
Took a closer look at it and decided to leave it for someone else. The barrel is the same width as the receiver and is straight for the entire 22". There is some chips out of the stock on the foregrip. Double checked the price and it is $1300 Canadian ($940 USD). I just don't really want to spend that much on something like that at this time.
Wasnt unheard of in the fifties to mount surplus .30 caliber Browning machine gun barrels on 03’s.
I saw one at the Honey Hole years ago.
It was a beast.
I saw one at the Honey Hole years ago.
It was a beast.
Yes... Despite that: what about the accuracy of such a heavy-barrel M1903 ?
Hmm, hmm.. ?!
I called them and asked for pictures since I'm looking for an old school heavy barrel 06, but I agree with OP, it's not exactly what I thought it would be. I like the peep sight but the barrel seems too thick and new? Also the stock looks recently refinished. Here's what they sent me:
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look at the step in the barrel right in front of the action. could be an accuracy device that was turned down and the whole gun was re-blued.
Could also be the machine gun barrel as mentioned before.
it looks exactly like i thought it would, modified keystone C-stock and all.
It's basically a custom precision 1903 in pretty amazing condition (judging but the pictures) for $950... Kind of hard to go wrong...
What a barrel...
I'm getting "jealous".. .
This Springfield M1903-Barrel remembers me - in a somewhat stimulating way - a bit to the heavy Winchester M70-Barrels.. Of course
A younger prospect, but with matching content, IMHO
I like the target model..What a barrel...
I'm getting "jealous".. .
This Springfield M1903-Barrel remembers me - in a somewhat stimulating way - a bit to the heavy Winchester M70-Barrels.. Of course
A younger prospect, but with matching content, IMHO
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Such a handful of rifle...
Fantastic
Fantastic
My 1903 is a bit girthy itself, like em like I like my bowel movements, black and thick
That is definitely a Mann Accuracy Device that has been put into a full stock. The sleeve that clamps into the fixture has been turned down and the barrel has had a recessed crown added.
In my opinion it has a lot less value than it did as a Mann Accuracy Device.
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Scarce U.S. Smith-Corona Model 03-A3 Bolt Action Rifle in Mann Accuracy Device ConfigurationManufactured in 1943 and subsequently converted into a Mann accuracy device with a barrel reading"8593305/REMINGTON ARMS CO. INC., ILION. N.Y. MADE IN U.S.A./228" on the bottom and electro-penciled...
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U.S. Remington Model 03A3 Bolt Action Rifle in 7.62x51 mm Mann Accuracy Device Configuration with CMP CertificateOne of only 15 in 7.62x51 mm. "Rifle, Accuracy/7.62mm-D7553790" on top of barrel at the breech. "7553795/F680166170/REMINGTON ARMS CO. ILION. N.Y. MADE IN USA" on the bottom of the...
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Typically, an increase of one inch of barrel length, will add around 25 feet per second to the velocity.Such a thicker and longer barrel... What would this ballistics be ?
Any experience, please
The benchrest crowd claim barrels ~22" provide the best balance of speed and accuracy.
Interesting .. With f.e. the M2 Service-Ammo used - the example above seems to be around 28-inches long - we could expect a MV of around 30 meters or 100 feet p/s more, compared with the standard-barrel. That means ca. 886 m/s or 2906 f/s.. .
The UMC 30-06 150 grs-Load shows this MV.. .
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