Training Courses Sniper's Hide Black Bear Training: Pre Major Land Cup

Lowlight · May 28, 2024

October 16th & 17th 2024

Cost: $1000

Black Bear Facility Gladstone Virginia

Major Land Cup Pre Match Train Up

Wednesday & Thursday Prior to the Event Weekend

Sniper's Hide Training @ Black Bear Prior to the Maj Land Cup. We will conduct 2 days of precision rifle training at the Black Bear facility in Gladstone VA. We will look at 2 days of Fundamentals and Tripod / Alternate Position as well as the Kraft Quick Wind.

This course is not a beginners course as we will require you have data for your rifle prior to attending. Please have data to at least 1000 yards to be effective in this class. They do not have a full Known Distance Course so any data will have to be trued using alternate means.

Gear List should be all equipment needed to shoot a Precision Rifle Competition.

Precision Rifle 6mm to 33x
Scopes capable of 1000 yard adjustment and a minimum of 10x
Rear Bag
Bipod
Front Rest Bag
Tripod
Laser Range Finder
Data Management
Pack and Ammo

We will cap students at 20 given the nature of the competition

Details Contact: [email protected]

Precision Rifle Payment Page

TheHorta · May 28, 2024

Imma bring my .22LR with iron sights, just to give the rest of the field a fighting chance. Subs-only, of course.

RG0099 · May 29, 2024

PlinkIt · May 30, 2024

Sent an email
I'm not seeing how to select black bear when doing the payment....
Wanted to make sure there is still an opening.
Thanks and looking forward to this one

RG0099 · May 30, 2024

PlinkIt said:
Sent an email
I'm not seeing how to select black bear when doing the payment....
Wanted to make sure there is still an opening.
Thanks and looking forward to this one

I just did the 2 day class payment, and sent an email to let him know what it was for. I wanted to make sure I reserved a spot.

RG0099 · May 30, 2024

@357Max you see this yet?

PlinkIt · May 30, 2024

RG0099 said:
I just did the 2 day class payment, and sent an email to let him know what it was for. I wanted to make sure I reserved a spot.

Roger, did the same then

Lowlight · May 30, 2024

Yes,

The payment is either two day or 3 day, the class technically doesn't matter. I was on the range all day, so give me a minute.

I have the list started, got the 1st guy from yesterday, so no issues with room, only a few so far.

357Max · May 30, 2024

Payment sent + email for Black Bear.

TheOE800 · May 30, 2024

357Max said:
Payment sent + email for Black Bear.

RG0099 said:
@357Max you see this yet?

Tempting me, not sure I can swing this and Ohio…

PlinkIt · May 31, 2024

TheOE800 said:
Tempting me, not sure I can swing this and Ohio…

doubt you'll have a bad class at either...
Think someone mentioned having fun with movers at the Ohio class.
Black bear is the highest angle & distance collection I've heard of on the east cost though.
For me it's really wanting to see that specific range as well as get a fresh list of what I'm screwing up at the same time lol

I think several of the same group were going to Ohio that went to Mifflin so frank should be able to set aside some time for whatever yall wanted vs being stuck on day one setup forever

357Max · May 31, 2024

PlinkIt said:
doubt you'll have a bad class at either...
Think someone mentioned having fun with movers at the Ohio class.
Black bear is the highest angle & distance collection I've heard of on the east cost though.
For me it's really wanting to see that specific range as well as get a fresh list of what I'm screwing up at the same time lol

I think several of the same group were going to Ohio that went to Mifflin so frank should be able to set aside some time for whatever yall wanted vs being stuck on day one setup forever

They had these all-terrain movers at the match last year. Only used for pistol targets but they were fun.
Shown here hiding around the corner from the stage. Pretty fast and programed for number of hits & zone to stop them.

Lowlight · May 31, 2024

Honestly if you took Mifflin even Ohio in the past Black Bear will be unique to both venues, but as noted the mover in Ohio makes that different

I can’t guarantee a mover or access at Black Bear, but for sure we have the distance and angles, so if you want to bring two rifles by all means bring both and we’ll push em as far as they will let us

357Max · May 31, 2024

There's 3 small clearings in this pic. right was 1260, 1560 middle, 1960 far left.
This range is a real gem for us east coast guys. Wind can be tricky shooting over valleys etc.

Baron23 · May 31, 2024

PlinkIt said:
doubt you'll have a bad class at either...
Think someone mentioned having fun with movers at the Ohio class.
Black bear is the highest angle & distance collection I've heard of on the east cost though.
For me it's really wanting to see that specific range as well as get a fresh list of what I'm screwing up at the same time lol

I think several of the same group were going to Ohio that went to Mifflin so frank should be able to set aside some time for whatever yall wanted vs being stuck on day one setup forever

Have fun, Tommy. I’m heading to OH this year for a number of reasons all of which I bugged the shit out of @Lowlight with in PMs. Hey, I did apologize afterward. lol

Can’t go wrong either way.

Since I’m already in OH I might detour to Thunder Valley after but also have a quail/deer hunt in GA later in Oct so…maybe just come home.

Look forward to your report on BB.

Cheers

PlinkIt · May 31, 2024

Baron23 said:
Have fun, Tommy.

Calling me Tommy?...
I'm Derrick, niks bar mate from the first Mifflin class.

Baron23 said:
I’m heading to OH this year for a number of reasons all of which I bugged the shit out of @Lowlight with in PMs. Hey, I did apologize afterward. lol

I'm sure frank will have more time to "lay there and talk about it" at Mifflin

lol

Baron23 said:
Can’t go wrong either way.

Since I’m already in OH I might detour to Thunder Valley after but also have a quail/deer hunt in GA later in Oct so…maybe just come home.

Yea I don't think it's a bad choice to be had there.
I'm guessing they will have more time at the normal KD ranges like Mifflin and Ohio to really sort things out and work on us a little better as well vs BB being more of an event specific thing....

Sounds like you've got some nice plans worked out for the year already!

Baron23 said:
Look forward to your report on BB

I'm looking forward to spending some time at this one so I'll take pics / videos / notes and try to show it off a little for sure.
Wonder if I'm allowed to run my drone there.... could get some nice video on it I bet.

If I knew someone else who didn't mind coming in last I think id try the whole match, but I hate to hold someone else back lol

Baron23 said:
Cheers

Cheers to you too!
Hope you keeping GB straight as well

PlinkIt · May 31, 2024

357Max said:
They had these all-terrain movers at the match last year. Only used for pistol targets but they were fun.
Shown here hiding around the corner from the stage. Pretty fast and programed for number of hits & zone to stop them.
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I saw a video of this and those look like fun!

I don't even want to know what that thing costs though lol

Baron23 · Jun 1, 2024

PlinkIt said:
Calling me Tommy?...
I'm Derrick, niks bar mate from the first Mifflin class.

God I'm losing it.....not to garbage up this thread, I'll PM you.

Lowlight · Jun 3, 2024

Right now I have

Derek
James
Robert
Jeffery

Lowlight · Oct 1, 2024

Major Lands is coming up, we are ready to hit VA.

FYI, you don;t have to be shooting Maj Land if you want to participate in the 2 days of instruction on Black Bear

So anyone in the Virginia Area, more than welcome to attend.

PlinkIt · Oct 6, 2024

Only bad thing I've seen about this range is that it's further than I want to drive each day, but finding lodging in any close proximity seems hit / miss

If anyone put together a group staying somewhere specific feel free to shoot me a message/ thanks

RG0099 · Oct 13, 2024

They are calling for temps to drop into the 30’s overnight starting Tuesday night, so make sure you bring your mittens

Lowlight · Oct 13, 2024

The cool part, I have Chris coming so like I said, if you want to come, get a nice 2 day train up, stop in, even last minute.

I’ll start the day at 9 AM cuz some may need to drive in, but we’ll stay til whenever as we are just at the bottom of the hill.

We set, look forward to seeing ya there.

Lowlight · Oct 14, 2024

Nik H · Oct 15, 2024

PlinkIt said:
Calling me Tommy?...
I'm Derrick, niks bar mate from the first Mifflin class.

I'm sure frank will have more time to "lay there and talk about it" at Mifflin lol

Yea I don't think it's a bad choice to be had there.
I'm guessing they will have more time at the normal KD ranges like Mifflin and Ohio to really sort things out and work on us a little better as well vs BB being more of an event specific thing....

Sounds like you've got some nice plans worked out for the year already!

I'm looking forward to spending some time at this one so I'll take pics / videos / notes and try to show it off a little for sure.
Wonder if I'm allowed to run my drone there.... could get some nice video on it I bet.

If I knew someone else who didn't mind coming in last I think id try the whole match, but I hate to hold someone else back lol

Cheers to you too!
Hope you keeping GB straight as well

Yo Baby!!

How have you been? I hope you have a complete blast. Shoot them slow and smooth. Miss drinking with you

RG0099 · Oct 17, 2024

Great class (as always). Shot with Gant, Derrick, and Jamie. As always fundamentals were checked, and then it was a “let’s do this”, and was very relaxed and informative. We covered a lot of positional shooting. Wind was changing constantly, and had some 14 mph gusts, but worked with a lot of 10-12mph switchy winds. We shot most targets 600-1000, but ended today at 1900 yards. You guys really missed out on this class. We were able to shoot military movers, meaning they change direction and fall on impact. I shot about 225 rounds over 2 days. And Jamie and I took advantage of an amazing stew, cornbread and brownies Laura made tonight. Can’t wait to do it again next year.

Thank you Frank and Laura

PlinkIt · Oct 18, 2024

Nik H said:
Yo Baby!!

How have you been? I hope you have a complete blast. Shoot them slow and smooth. Miss drinking with you

I'm good! Hope you are too!
Thanks, and it was a good event / range to try out for sure! I think I'll be forced to join here as 2.5hours is worth a day trip a few times a year to have views / shoots like that! Everybody we met prepping for the event seemed like good people. You gotta come try this one out some time. Besides I still owe you a couple drinks I'm pretty sure lol

RG0099 said:
Great class (as always). Shot with Gant, Derrick, and Jamie. As always fundamentals were checked, and then it was a “let’s do this”, and was very relaxed and informative. We covered a lot of positional shooting. Wind was changing constantly, and had some 14 mph gusts, but worked with a lot of 10-12mph switchy winds. We shot most targets 600-1000, but ended today at 1900 yards. You guys really missed out on this class. We were able to shoot military movers, meaning they change direction and fall on impact. I shot about 225 rounds over 2 days. And Jamie and I took advantage of an amazing stew, cornbread and brownies Laura made tonight. Can’t wait to do it again next year.

Thank you Frank and Laura

^That pretty much sums it up
it was just the four of us with Frank and Laura so it was much more informal and to the point it seemed.
Frank ran though his info and got straight to seeing if anyone had issues. But that went pretty fast with just four and no major equipment issues as everyone showed up with mostly squared away stuff. Mostly ammo / truing issues after some minimal zero adjustments.

Those movers were absolutely the coolest / funniest / thing I've ever seen for a target!
These things could be programmed to run different paths / have various reactions to taking fire. There was a small army of them! They talked / screamed random stuff in reaction. That stage alone would have been worth shooting the match.
I don't want to post pics / video of anything as it might spoil some of the competition this weekend for someone but I'd love to see some folks blind reaction to that stage when it comes up!

I have got to find someone to partner up with and shoot this whole match next year though. This thing looks like it's going to be fun as hell as long as you don't mind the hiking around the mountain. (We got to drive during training / prepare for scratches and some slight tire spinning without 4x4 though)

If they get it sorted to use the bunk house on site for training and the comp that would really be an epic event to make a full week stay out of!

On a side note I finally found my wallet while I was unpacking my Santa sack! Lol
Enjoyed the hell out of it guys (and girl), and hope to see yall again soon

RG0099 · Oct 18, 2024

PlinkIt said:
I'm good! Hope you are too!
Thanks, and it was a good event / range to try out for sure! I think I'll be forced to join here as 2.5hours is worth a day trip a few times a year to have views / shoots like that! Everybody we met prepping for the event seemed like good people. You gotta come try this one out some time. Besides I still owe you a couple drinks I'm pretty sure lol

^That pretty much sums it up
it was just the four of us with Frank and Laura so it was much more informal and to the point it seemed.
Frank ran though his info and got straight to seeing if anyone had issues. But that went pretty fast with just four and no major equipment issues as everyone showed up with mostly squared away stuff. Mostly ammo / truing issues after some minimal zero adjustments.

Those movers were absolutely the coolest / funniest / thing I've ever seen for a target!
These things could be programmed to run different paths / have various reactions to taking fire. There was a small army of them! They talked / screamed random stuff in reaction. That stage alone would have been worth shooting the match.
I don't want to post pics / video of anything as it might spoil some of the competition this weekend for someone but I'd love to see some folks blind reaction to that stage when it comes up!

I have got to find someone to partner up with and shoot this whole match next year though. This thing looks like it's going to be fun as hell as long as you don't mind the hiking around the mountain. (We got to drive during training / prepare for scratches and some slight tire spinning without 4x4 though)

If they get it sorted to use the bunk house on site for training and the comp that would really be an epic event to make a full week stay out of!

On a side note I finally found my wallet while I was unpacking my Santa sack! Lol
Enjoyed the hell out of it guys (and girl), and hope to see yall again soon

Great shooting with you Derrick. Glad to hear you found your wallet dude.

Sparky · Oct 24, 2024

Which one of you is ROBBY?!

Baron23 · Oct 24, 2024

Hey @Sparky ...any pics?

Sparky · Oct 24, 2024

Baron23 said:
Hey @Sparky ...any pics?

No. Just a couple of Frank. I was busy Saturday and Sunday plus sick. I was not feeling taking pictures. Plus I was using my phone to time the stages.

I usually do take pictures.

Baron23 · Oct 24, 2024

Sparky said:
No. Just a couple of Frank. I was busy Saturday and Sunday plus sick. I was not feeling taking pictures. Plus I was using my phone to time the stages. I usually do take pictures.

Sick...rag weed again? Hope you're better soon, hon.

Thanks for the reply

Sparky · Oct 25, 2024

I am not 90% we got in on Monday morning around 1am and I slept 95% of Monday and 65% of Tuesday. Woke up Wednesday and I was like okay. Made breakfast for both of us. And today I was like LETS GET THE DAY STARTED!

Sparky · Oct 25, 2024

And I don’t know what it was. I thick it was just a different environment. We slept well, went to bed around 9-10 give or take. I ate three times a day… I drank water. I just got BAD congestion in my chest and nose. I was miserable.

felt like a villain in the damn air plane no masks I felt like everyone wanted to murder me, my feelers were ready to rip anyone’s head off anytime I coughed.

RG0099 · Oct 25, 2024

Sparky said:
Which one of you is ROBBY?!

I'm Robbie

Sparky · Oct 25, 2024

I MADE CORNBREAD CASSEROLE!!!!!!!!!!

…that is all.

RG0099 · Oct 26, 2024

Sparky said:
I MADE CORNBREAD CASSEROLE!!!!!!!!!!

…that is all.

damn, it took a minute but now I got it. How was it?

I hope you guys are good and rested?

Sparky · Oct 26, 2024

RG0099 said:
damn, it took a minute but now I got it. How was it?

I hope you guys are good and rested?

Fuck I was sick as shit but I’m better

357Max · Oct 26, 2024

Sparky said:
Fuck I was sick as shit but I’m better

Glad your feeling better. The brownies, Stew, & Corn bread you treated Robbie & I to was phenomenal.
Frank is a Lucky man!

Till next time.

Oh and meanwhile at my house today, a dumpster fire.

RG0099 · Oct 26, 2024

357Max said:
Glad your feeling better. The brownies, Stew, & Corn bread you treated Robbie & I to was phenomenal.
Frank is a Lucky man!

Till next time.

Oh and meanwhile at my house today, a dumpster fire.
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Damn dude, I hope that’s your neighbors hot rod

357Max · Oct 26, 2024

RG0099 said:
Damn dude, I hope that’s your neighbors hot rod

Nope, that was my truck. Started from a branch falling on high voltage line. Also sent surge into house & blew oil furnace, whole house humidifier, & 12 light bulbs. Power is back on now.

Thank God this didn’t happen last weekend while we were at Black Bear.

RG0099 · Oct 27, 2024

Man I hate that. Glad it was just your truck for the most part

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