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Rifle Scopes MK5 HD 2-10x new reticles coming?
- Thread starter zekers7
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It's in the wild and being run in comps. I am unsure if it's the PR2, but it is a tree reticle with an ETA of Spring 25. I'm sure Leupold will find a way to mess it up or get it almost right. It took years to get a PR2 in the 3-18.
Its wild that the biggest hang up of what people want in the 1-8/2-10 range lines of is just a decent reticle.
It's a complex combination to build out: decent glass, FFP, a usable reticle at 1x/2x and max mag, and a dialing turret.
I hope it is more useable than the CCH in the 3.6-18, I can hardly use that reticle until 5x or so. The TMR is pretty nice for NV / thermal use and the TMR does give some more free real estate for disturbed reticles. Look forward to seeing the updated reticle, but happy with my TMR for now
Oh man. Yeah, it’s been a minute for sure. They were promising other reticles coming “soon” since the optic’s release. Spring 2025 is the soonest now? Wow.
Can we call moving from behind the courter at shotshow to field use progress
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It's really not that difficult to do.
It'll take barely an hour for someone competent to design the reticle, send that drawing to whoever etches the reticles, they push the go button on the machine.
Send the new reticles to the lady that's assembling the scopes and take away the TMR reticle, and Voila! You have a new reticle.
Ilya could design a decent reticle in a heart beat, I think I could too.
Or just copy one of the many decent FFP reticles that already exists and then Leupold it, add 1/3 Mil hashes, or add a Horus style tree to it, etc, etc.
Such a scope already exists and can be had for less than $500. compared to the nearly $2500 for an illuminated Leupold MK5 2-10.
HELOS BTR GEN2 2-12×42 AHMR2 FFP IR MIL
Just look at the spec's between the two and then look at the reticles. Clearly the Leupold reticle is finer one for longer range work, but the Helos is clearly better on the bottom end.
And to be frank a 2-10 or 2-12 class optics are not a varmint scopes nor are they well suited for long range precision work. They are MVPO's for large targets (4 legged or 2 legged) out to a max range of about 800 yds or so. which is in keeping with the cartridges' they are most suited for. The center dot on the Helos reticle is 0.3 mils compared to the MK5's at 0.1 Mils
If long range over 800 yds is what is anticipated mostly, then a 3-18 or 4-20 or higher powers are your huckleberry anyway, and the bottom end on these scope are pretty much useless for fast shooting.
You may think it's a piece of Chi-com junk, but actually buy one and use it in the field you might feel differently. I also have a Trijicon Credo 2-10x36mm and the Athlon is clearly the better scope even though it costs less than half the price of the Credo.
The Credo is mounted on my 18" barreled AR and the Athlon Helos on my 6.5 Creedmoor Sauer 100 bolt rifle.
Here's spec's for the Leupold for your perusal and comparison.
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 M5C3 FFP Illum. TMR
And before some comes back at me and says well the glass is way better on the MK5 HD than the Helos!! Just remember one thing: Better at what?? The primary purpose of these scopes is to hit largish targets and not read newspaper headlines at 500 yds.
This.
If the reticle in a 2-10/12 scope is too fine to see on 2x but is perfectly suited for shooting a 22lr KYL rack at 100yard on 12x, then you've misunderstood the brief.
If I want to shoot a KYL rack, or playing cards on edge or F class I'm not buying a MPVO, I'm buying a 3-18/5-25 scope.
If Leupold puts a PR2 reticle in this scope with no modifications (like what Steiner have done with the H6xi) then their designers need to be roundhouse kicked by Chuck Norris.
The Mark 4, 2-10, SFP, with illuminated TMR, was bought by a close friend and to me is just about perfect in this category as if he needs to holdover he won’t be on less than 10x and the SFP makes the reticle always usable.
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I just bought the FFP version of this scope to take the place of a Helos 2-12 that shit the bed twice. With the relatively simple TMR reticle and illumination, it looks good on low and high power to me, although I agree with the principle that for a 2.5-10x, the reticle holdovers are mostly only going to be used at 10x and a SFP will work as well as FFP for most purposes. Kind of a sweet spot for that though, once you get past about 12x on the top I don't think it holds.
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Whatever they may be designing they have at least a 200% chance of fucking it up. They’re the only company that can fuck up a duplex reticle.
That's not true. Many companies have fucked up duplex reticles. Maybe not with the same enthusiasm, but they have.
ILya
