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Same for the SOTIC rifle. I hope for good news every dayIt's Q3 2024 and nothing but crickets...
Looks like it's these thing are available now, saw this post of Facebook.
Interesting that they have managed to drop 7oz of weight, hopefully it's mostly out of the butt area.
If so these will be very hard to beat for a Tikka hunting build.
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@YotaEer - It states .95 at the fore-end, but will this barrel channel accept a barrel contour similar to that of Proof Sendero or even larger? I know it says Varmint, but can't find any details about how wide towards the shank.yep, just placed my order this morning for a carbon forest one.
Everyone should note that you need to order LOP spaces and the thumb screw dial separately. They have a special combined package of that for the echo for like $15.
The guys at KRG said they also modified their short arca rail to fit the echo right in front of the magwell.
Excited to get my 6.5 PRC out of the bravo it is currently in and into the echo to cut a little weight and have a longer forend for off hand shots.
Do you have a Tikka Bravo?yep, just placed my order this morning for a carbon forest one.
Everyone should note that you need to order LOP spaces and the thumb screw dial separately. They have a special combined package of that for the echo for like $15.
The guys at KRG said they also modified their short arca rail to fit the echo right in front of the magwell.
Excited to get my 6.5 PRC out of the bravo it is currently in and into the echo to cut a little weight and have a longer forend for off hand shots.
If it's like a Bravo, you can easily just cut a bolt handle notch in the other side to make it left handed. That's what I had to do with my Bravo.Hope they release in left hand.
Looks like it's these thing are available now, saw this post of Facebook.
Interesting that they have managed to drop 7oz of weight, hopefully it's mostly out of the butt area.
If so these will be very hard to beat for a Tikka hunting build.
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@YotaEer - It states .95 at the fore-end, but will this barrel channel accept a barrel contour similar to that of Proof Sendero or even larger? I know it says Varmint, but can't find any details about how wide towards the shank.
Also - is there any other Arca Rails that are suppose to be compatible with this setup from KRG? How about a rail toward the end of the fore-end for a bipod that isn't sling stud?
I tried calling, but they aren't open yet.
Do you have a Tikka Bravo?
It'd be interesting to see the balance point of the bare chassis compared.
If this chassis has less weight in the butt I might buy one.
I guess I’m about to find out on the proof sendero bit. That’s what I have. 24” long
Not sure the answers on the longer arca rails. I asked them “how do we attach an arca rail to the bottom?” And their reply was only that they modified their short arca rail to fit the echo.
Yes I have 2 tikka bravos. One CTR version on a 6.5 creed and the AICS version on a 6.5 prc, which I will be swapping with the echo.
I’ll update when I receive it.
KRG told me that they do not know if a Proof Research Sendero Contour barrel will work, but they did say the Proof Sendero Light and Bartlein #13 Remington/Varmint Sendero Contour will work.
They told me only the ARCA short will work, but a L2 picatinny will also work towards the fore-end for a bipod.
Looks like they simplified it a bit though with the butt hook area.Doubtful since there’s not much structure and weight in the butt of a bravo. They’re actually pretty ass light. They cut the aluminum backbone out of the forend so I’d imagine that’s where the reduced weight comes from.
what will you be mounting it in? can you weigh it before mounting? are you going to be using spacers?I have my Echo in hand if anyone has questions. Advantages of being 30 minutes from their shipping location.
Will post photos later.
Awesome, thank you for doing this.Ok, I have a Tikka Roughtech Ranch in 223 I dropped in. Overall impression: I like how it handles and feels. It balances better than the Roughtech stock, and I like the vertical grip better.
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The stock as it arrives. It comes with 2 cheekpieces, I regular and 1 lightweight.
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The Roughtech ranch. Stock from the factory weighs 6 lbs, 8 oz on my scale.
Without mag, the Roughtech stock is:
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Vs the Echo:
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Install is easy, though slightly different than a bravo. First thing that annoyed me (and it’s minor). The front captive action screw needs to be threaded into the action to allow the action to sit onto the lug. I like to put an action in, feel it seat on the lug, and then start the action screws. With the captive front screw you have to start the screw into the action before it can seat on the lug. Minor irritation, and only on install. There may be a way to pop the mini internal chassis out and avoid this, but I didn’t try.
With the action installed, the setup now weighs 7 lbs, 4 oz.
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Balance is nice, centered right on the forward 1/3 of the mag.
Things to note: with the cheek piece down, you can’t remove the bolt from the action. I haven’t had a Tikka Bravo, just Remington 700 Bravos, but I don’t remember that being an issue with the Rem Bravo.
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Is the lightweight cheek piece light enough to warrant install? For me no. The main difference is the clamping bar and hardware. Standard piece with hardware was 2.6 oz, lightweight with hardware was 1.9 oz.
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With the normal insert, the Roughtech Ranch barrel has generous clearance.
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Overall: I’m happy with it. I like Bravos but this feels less chunky and more streamlined, and the forend is nice and stiff. Definitely an upgrade from the Roughtech stock, and a nice light alternative to the Bravo for trekking around with all day.
Looks like they simplified it a bit though with the butt hook area.
I know thr Bravo is very lightweight by chassis standards, my only complaint (more like constructive criticism) is that compared to a stock they are still ass heavy.
Maybe it's not possible to remove any weight from the rear section, but I'd be over the moon if they could.
You can’t remove the bolt with the cheek rest installed on a Tikka Bravo either.Things to note: with the cheek piece down, you can’t remove the bolt from the action. I haven’t had a Tikka Bravo, just Remington 700 Bravos, but I don’t remember that being an issue with the Rem Bravo.
I don’t know if you’ve ever been around a bravo but they ARE NOT a rear heavy chassis, quite the opposite. There’s nothing to them in the rear, even the cheek adjustment hardware is extremely minimal compared to everything else out there. It’s all polymer and it’s not solid either. They’re lighter in the rear than many traditional stocks and probably lighter than anything else with an adjustable cheek.
Are you adding the internal weight and any of those heavy full-length Arca spacers and full-length heavy Arca plates?They are rear heavy though.
My Tikka T1x with 16" barrel was basically impossible to get balance in front of the magwell, regardless of what weights I threw at it.
I rebarrelled it with a 25" Medium Palma barrel and it just barely balances in front on the magwell.
My 19" 260 (CTR contour) won't quite balance in front the magwell with a lb worth of suppressor hanging off the end. Neither will a 24" 6.5CM CTR.
The factory CTR/Super Varmint stock would balance in any of these scenarios.
I love my KRG Bravos. My only complaint/wish is that there was a little less weight in the rear end.
Are you adding the internal weight and any of those heavy full-length Arca spacers and full-length heavy Arca plates?
I got my Bravo to balance on a tripod with a 22” Mueller Remington Varmint weight barrel + suppressor, a NX8 4-32 w/ARC Mbrace, a light KRG full-length Arca plate and the aluminum adjustable buttplate (not LOP). I’d have to check again exactly where it balanced. No internal weight.
Below is the gun. Differently spec’ed than what balanced on the tripod: Had the stock pad on with a heavy spacer (no adj butt), and regular rings.
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To run with a rear bag on a bench I needed to actually add weight to the butt for better accuracy. I threw in the heavy barrier stop inside the handgrip and used a heavy lop spacer with the KRG thin buttpad.
However, I agree I wish the butt was lighter or really, in my case that the forend was heavier. I’m not a PRS guy btw.
Thanks for taking the time to post that upOk, I have a Tikka Roughtech Ranch in 223 I dropped in. Overall impression: I like how it handles and feels. It balances better than the Roughtech stock, and I like the vertical grip better.
View attachment 8528207
The stock as it arrives. It comes with 2 cheekpieces, I regular and 1 lightweight.
View attachment 8528208
The Roughtech ranch. Stock from the factory weighs 6 lbs, 8 oz on my scale.
Without mag, the Roughtech stock is:
View attachment 8528209
Vs the Echo:
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Install is easy, though slightly different than a bravo. First thing that annoyed me (and it’s minor). The front captive action screw needs to be threaded into the action to allow the action to sit onto the lug. I like to put an action in, feel it seat on the lug, and then start the action screws. With the captive front screw you have to start the screw into the action before it can seat on the lug. Minor irritation, and only on install. There may be a way to pop the mini internal chassis out and avoid this, but I didn’t try.
With the action installed, the setup now weighs 7 lbs, 4 oz.
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Balance is nice, centered right on the forward 1/3 of the mag.
Things to note: with the cheek piece down, you can’t remove the bolt from the action. I haven’t had a Tikka Bravo, just Remington 700 Bravos, but I don’t remember that being an issue with the Rem Bravo.
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Is the lightweight cheek piece light enough to warrant install? For me no. The main difference is the clamping bar and hardware. Standard piece with hardware was 2.6 oz, lightweight with hardware was 1.9 oz.
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With the normal insert, the Roughtech Ranch barrel has generous clearance.
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Overall: I’m happy with it. I like Bravos but this feels less chunky and more streamlined, and the forend is nice and stiff. Definitely an upgrade from the Roughtech stock, and a nice light alternative to the Bravo for trekking around with all day.
ITAR is a complete load of nonsense.Looks great, but KRG are being very stupid about doing dealer only sales outside of the US. It's not an ITAR restricted item. The US Govt has armed plenty of terrorists over the years so I don't see why they would be so afraid of letting overseas hunters and sport shooters buy a bit of metal and plastic off a private, USA manufacture and veteran owned company...
But I think a lot of fanbois on another 'hunting' forum are going to have buyers remorse for putting money down on the vaporware carbon stok designed by their cult hero...
Which stock, the MDT carbon one?But I think a lot of fanbois on another 'hunting' forum are going to have buyers remorse for putting money down on the vaporware carbon stok designed by their cult hero...
Probably the "Rokstok". I think the production was such a shitshow that they've temporarily stopped taking orders for it due to the backlog.Which stock, the MDT carbon one?
Wow that thing is hideous! Like broken lowrider.Probably the "Rokstok". I think the production was such a shitshow that they've temporarily stopped taking orders for it due to the backlog.
Looks great, but KRG are being very stupid about doing dealer only sales outside of the US. It's not an ITAR restricted item. The US Govt has armed plenty of terrorists over the years so I don't see why they would be so afraid of letting overseas hunters and sport shooters buy a bit of metal and plastic off a private, USA manufacture and veteran owned company...
But I think a lot of fanbois on another 'hunting' forum are going to have buyers remorse for putting money down on the vaporware carbon stok designed by their cult hero...
Thing that puts me off the Rokstok is no LOP shorter than 13.5" and it doesn't seem like they can do a full length ARCA rail. As much as I shit talked the grip angle I think my #1 candidate might actually be the new MDT Crbn stock if I eventually do upgrade.I love bravos. I’d happily trade one of my bravos for another rokstok though. Echo isn’t lighter enough to make me feel any different about it than the bravo.
I think it shoots a little shorter than its stated lop so you might be fine. Seen some pics of kids shooting them. I dono if it's getting the negative comb dialed or just the ergonomics but my friends and I all needed to add a couple spacers and we normally shoot about 13.5-13.75 lop. (I shoot 2 spacers on a bravo with the cheek riser flush and 4 on a hunt 26 for comparison )You can get a mini arca installed in front of the mag but not sure about full length so yea that might be a dealbreaker for you. But i ordered a second immediately after my first range session and i suspect others did the same hence the backlog.Thing that puts me off the Rokstok is no LOP shorter than 13.5" and it doesn't seem like they can do a full length ARCA rail. As much as I shit talked the grip angle I think my #1 candidate might actually be the new MDT Crbn stock if I eventually do upgrade.
@YotaEer Thank you for sharing.So I pulled my 6.5 prc out of the bravo and put it into the echo.
As I suspected, the barrel didn’t clear even with the larger barrel channel insert. it does barely clear with the insert completely removed. Enough to fit a few sheets of paper down the entire way back to the recoil lug, even when putting some pressure on the bottom.
Like KRG said, it does work and I don’t think it will be an issue for the vast majority of shooters. However, with the insert removed, there’s enough flex in portion of the echo ahead of the front sling stud that I can get it to contact the barrel if I really press.
This would never be an issue shooting off hand or from a tripod, but I could see it being an issue if you’re really loading a bipod at the very front and have to remove the insert to get a proof sendero or other large contour to clear.
Overall, it’s just a sleeker, lighter bravo. Same fit and finish, grip, levels perfectly etc. I like it.
Unfortunately, one issue I do have is that the regular old plastic tikka mag I have is very loose. It won’t fall out, but the back of the mag drops about 1/4” which is enough to keep the bolt from grabbing a round. If I press slightly on the bottom or hold it upright then it feeds fine. But just letting it hang in a tripod it won’t feed. Maybe metal hells canyon mags would be the fix? Any other suggestions?
Weighs exactly 11 pounds as pictured
@YotaEer Thank you for sharing.
Do you believe the carbon wrapped #13 Bartlein Remingtin/Varmint Sendero Contour will fit without the removal of the insert?
I haven't received my echo yet, but KRG stated it should fit.
Nice, is that with the insert in or out?So some very quick work with a dremel and fine sand paper opened up the very front of the stock to give plenty of room for the proof sendero. I took off maybe .2”
If KRG would just do this from the factory then it would be a real no brainer for tikka hunting builds.
Nice, is that with the insert in or out?
Bartlein Carbon Wrapped #13 Remington/Varmint Sendero fits without removing the insert.
Has anyone installed the short arca rail close to the magazine well? I don’t think there are threads. Maybe I’m missing something
Got it, thank you!Yes
The 2 screw holes closer to the Mag well have threads. The 2 holes at the front need to utilize the nuts included with the arca rail from KRG. If you remove the barrel channel insert, you’ll see there’s premade slots on the topside of those holes for the nuts to sit in and not rotate while you tighten the screw in.