End "early voting" period. Make mail in ballots by request only to everyone except Active Duty military, and deployed government officials (Ambassadors etc....). Have mobile, or satellite Identification Offices to issue a state ID, not a full service DMV, for voting purposes. Create a 4 day Federal holiday of Friday until Monday for voting. In person with proper identification. All tallying must be completed within 24 hours with the exception of mail in ballots postmarked by midnight election night, and delivered within 3 days of election.
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End "early voting" and implement a voting holiday.
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Oh so silly if all of these logical common sense things are initiated then how can the Dems cheat??
Vote early, vote often is the motto in most democrat led states, cities and counties. I'm sure it will be a free and fair election and no one we wanted to win, will win. Hell, they are already posting election night results in Penn.
I saw the video in the other thread about the polling location being shut down early. I'm sure there will be some "Section A, Subsection B-1678, paragraph 52, line 45643 Whence whenever where-upon wherever perchance it may occur that a "
Fuck that. My ballot was 5 legal size pages. Filled it out while researching the candidates/judges I didn't know already. Dropped it off at the SoE office the next morning. I'm not standing in line for 7 hours to vote ever again (2008 7.5hrs, 2012 6.3hrs, 2016 9.8 fucking hours).
Having it be a holiday would help for turnout, but to ensure that lines aren't stupid we would need a cap on how many residents per polling location (city), and a maximum distance from residence to polling location (rural). Otherwise it's just too easy to inconvenience specific demographics (people who have jobs and shit to do) into not participating. Mail is the next best thing.
I rather like early voting...in person, where I had to show a government-issued photo ID to be handed a ballot.
Even with a voting holiday, there'd still be lots of people who have to work and wouldn't be able to vote unless they had the ability to vote early.
Even with a voting holiday, there'd still be lots of people who have to work and wouldn't be able to vote unless they had the ability to vote early.
4 day holiday?
Say you don't have an important job without saying you don't have an important job.
Mail in ballots should ONLY be available to Military and no-one else. They used to be called Absentee ballots.
(Any other mail ballot in is a gateway to fraud.)
*Go back to mail in have to be received and input no later than 3 days prior to the election. (Still the biggest fraud gateway)
In my opinion, mail in ballots should be eliminated.
*Make proper ID mandatory.
Have a ballot, with serial number assigned to you and you only.
*Polls close sharply at 9PM.
*Tally should be available immediately. It's fucking electronic.
The above items with an asterisk are how Florida does it. That's why our results are compiled by 10PM.
Tell me you are not important enough to your organization to get what you demand without telling me you are just a cog in the machine. No one said you have to take a day off. They can do what they have done inthe past and rearrange other federal holidays. You can pour that concrete all weekend if you want lol. If 2 days off will break you then adjust your budget. Or adjust the work schedule. Some bosses are just more awesome than others, and would make it work. This guy would. Smiley-face emoji
Voting is supposed to be one of, if not the greatest Right we have. If you believe it should be limited to one day, 7am-7pm, then maybe you should re-check your priorities.
Bring back the Chads! DamnyouSouthFlorida!
Voting is supposed to be one of, if not the greatest Right we have. If you believe it should be limited to one day, 7am-7pm, then maybe you should re-check your priorities.
Bring back the Chads! DamnyouSouthFlorida!
Your long-winded first paragraph doesn't apply at all.
I'm retired.
Being demanding sounds like a child throwing a temper tantrum.
Your boss probably gives in to you just to keep you quiet.
Seems I struck quite a nerve with you since the only thing you tried to address was your self importance in your organization.
I thought this was about your opinion on voting...
Making it a federal, 4 day holiday is just dumb as hell.
Our so called leaders have done enough screwing around with federal holidays. We don't need them to fuck this up too.
Do we need more than one day for voting?
Of course we do. That should be self evident. There's just to damn many people to try and get it done in one day.
What we don't need is ways to allow any type of cheating, vote harvesting, multiple votes or any other way it can be done.
I have no issue wearing a purple thumb for a week.
There are multiple ways to prevent cheating. It just seems like some people don't care enough.
Lastly, There's no reason on earth for vote counting to go beyond poll closing time. They is just a piss poor excuse to allow for cheating.
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I am a sworn election official. I am a machine specialist. There are very simple ways to make elections fair, free, and to the greatest extent possible, fraud-proof.
The only reason jurisdictions have any other system is so there is an avenue to fraud a close election. It is just that simple.
(Those who advocate for "paper ballots" alone have never worked an election.)
- No mail-in ballots.
- Absentee ballots only for few reasons, fraud is a felony. Signature match on the request and the return. Counted on election day. Observed by both parties and an election official.
- Photo ID.
- Purged voter rolls.
- Results posted by hard-copy tape at the polling place within minutes of closing.
- "Zero tape" hard-copy posted at the polling place before polls open.
- No Dominion machines.
- Pursuit of criminal prosecution of anyone breaking the law.
The only reason jurisdictions have any other system is so there is an avenue to fraud a close election. It is just that simple.
(Those who advocate for "paper ballots" alone have never worked an election.)
If 4 days is just a dumbass idea, but one day is not enough, would you be so kind as to enlighten us as to the perfect number?
Used to be that to 'early vote' you had to have a reason. On a business trip. Overseas. Medical reasons.
I have no problem with early voting. In person. With an ID and proof of eligibiity. Period.
ID is used for everything. To say it's 'racist' or 'un-American' to require ID and proof of eligibility... is like saying that folks of 'other' races and backgrounds are too stupid to get an ID and follow the process. What could be more racist than that???
It's all about cheating...
Sirhr
I have no problem with early voting. In person. With an ID and proof of eligibiity. Period.
ID is used for everything. To say it's 'racist' or 'un-American' to require ID and proof of eligibility... is like saying that folks of 'other' races and backgrounds are too stupid to get an ID and follow the process. What could be more racist than that???
It's all about cheating...
Sirhr
Jesus you aren't very bright, are you?
You advocated for a 4 day federal holiday for voting. To get those 4 days, your thought was to realign other federal holidays into a voting weekend.
Is your name Denise?
You sound like my ex trying to twist my words around.
Well, the Dims did say (most) rural people had less access to getting IDs, making copies and lacked the basic skills to use a computer.
They should probably leave the city limits more often. I do believe they would feel unwelcome in most rural areas.
Well, the Dims did say (most) rural people had less access to getting IDs, making copies and lacked the basic skills to use a computer.
They should probably leave the city limits more often. I do believe they would feel unwelcome in most rural areas.
We hill folk have lots of ways of “git er done” at our disposal.
Sirhr
Absolutely not! Maybe if we were back in the 60's, etc. we could, but the size of the voting population today is just way too great to depend on only one day to get all the votes in. You'd probably have to have one voting precinct for every 1000 voters or something like that. And, furthermore, if there are problems on that one day (bad weather, power outages, machine failures, etc. etc.), that's even worse.
In my county, we started on 10/21 and will go through 11/2 for early voting, followed by Election day itself on 11/05. I guess that's to set up the regular ballots (for early voting, they laser print the ballots for you on the spot). Not sure they can do that for Election day voting. I think those ballots must be pre-printed. And it's why you have to go to your designated precinct if you're going on Election Day. For Early voting, you can go to a number of different precincts since the ballots are printed on the spot.
I like that.
I'd prefer only property owners should be allowed to vote.
Agree. You should have a stake in the game if you're gonna play.
I may not oppose some type ofCivics testing. As in you had to pass a ??? level Civics exam to show you know what the hell is going on. Just a one time test until your 74. Then a cognitive test every 4 years
Im joking, but not joking. I fear the dummies we see answering questions on college campuses. I also fear the elderly just as much.I encourage each of you to become volunteer workers or party designated watchers.
After you have accomplished that, your opinions may change. Considerably.
The fact of the matter is that election workers are volunteers. We don't have enough volunteers to man the local fire department. We don't have enough umpires for little league. We don't have enough volunteers at hospice, blood drives, or the animal shelter. And we don't have enough volunteers to man the number of precincts necessary to have one day voting with no mail-in ballots.
There are choke points in every complex system. In most places now, the choke-point is labor. In this case, it is volunteer labor.
After you have accomplished that, your opinions may change. Considerably.
The fact of the matter is that election workers are volunteers. We don't have enough volunteers to man the local fire department. We don't have enough umpires for little league. We don't have enough volunteers at hospice, blood drives, or the animal shelter. And we don't have enough volunteers to man the number of precincts necessary to have one day voting with no mail-in ballots.
There are choke points in every complex system. In most places now, the choke-point is labor. In this case, it is volunteer labor.
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