6GT vx 6XC, Tuner or No Tuner? Opinions welcome

Budget Sniper · Thursday at 10:13 PM

Building for PRS... this seems like a real challenge to me, maybe y'all can make it an easier decision.

So i recently picked up one of those area 419 barreled actions (Tenacity/ Proof Comp 6GT) that they no longer sell... I have a 6XC reamer and barrel as well (both barrels are heavy contour and low round count) . I have more/better brass for the XC and a lot of 115gr DTACs. I have as many 105 Berger VLDs for the GT, but less brass and the brass I have is Hornady (GAP head stamped).

The GT has 5/8x24 thread and I have a G3 fat bastard for it. The XC is not threaded and I have an EC Tuner Brake to put on it if I go that route.

What would you do FIRST? Both barrels will probably happen eventually, but if you had to pick one, what would you go with and why?

Also, would you put the EC Tuner on the 6gt while it's at the Smith or just run it with a G3 Fat Bastard?

oldrifleman · Thursday at 10:17 PM

Pick the one you want to learn to shoot the most. One has sunk cost, write it off! It is now is just another barrel and you get to choose which one to learn the prs game on.

spife7980 · Thursday at 11:01 PM

How many rounds on the currently installed gt? If a reasonable amount, just do that for now

Budget Sniper · 2024-11-01T09:31:59-0400

spife7980 said:
How many rounds on the currently installed gt? If a reasonable amount, just do that for now

Only 50 rds on the GT... I have my Smith bedding the stock and I forgot to include the question in my initial post, while it's there I can have him thread it for the EC Tuner Brake, or i can run it as-is with my Fat Bastard... is it worth putting a tuner on the 6GT for PRS?

spife7980 · 2024-11-01T14:30:33-0400

Budget Sniper said:
Only 50 rds on the GT... I have my Smith begging the stock and I forgot to include the question in my initial post, while it's there I can have him thread it for the EC Tuner Brake, or i can run it as-is with my Fat Bastard... is it worth putting a tuner on the 6GT for PRS?

The gt is threaded, you should be bale to use either break on it, I assume both 5/8x24.
I would have him thread the 6xc barrel, sure. Make it the same 5/8x24 thread pitch.
As to which you run on which, doesn't matter. you shoot them both and tell us. Itll be purely personal preference. Both will be louder than hell.

Csafisher · 2024-11-01T14:57:05-0400

Budget Sniper said:
is it worth putting a tuner on the 6GT for PRS?

Nope. Debatable if they even work. If they actually do, it’s one more thing to worry about.

Taylorbok · 2024-11-01T15:03:54-0400

IMO tuners don't do shit

Budget Sniper · 2024-11-01T17:28:35-0400

spife7980 said:
The gt is threaded, you should be bale to use either break on it, I assume both 5/8x24.
I would have him thread the 6xc barrel, sure. Make it the same 5/8x24 thread pitch.
As to which you run on which, doesn't matter. you shoot them both and tell us. Itll be purely personal preference. Both will be louder than hell.

Should clarify, my EC Tuner Brake is 3/4 thread... so I'd be lopping of the 5/8 threaded section to thread again for my 3/4 Tuner Brake.

brianf · 2024-11-01T17:37:39-0400

Please god..not another tuner thread

Budget Sniper · 2024-11-01T20:22:55-0400

brianf said:
Please god..not another tuner thread

I shoot f-class, a tuner is a proven advantage when traveling to different ranges. Trying to hold groups (elevation) better than 1/4 moa groups is the goal. Now I'm looking to shoot a little PRS, and in doing so, I'm going from MOA to MRAD, 7mm to 6mm, single shot to mag fed, 20 minutes to 2 minutes... there are a lot of differences. I'm just polling the crowd to see if (while the gun is at the Smith) there's a worthwhile advantage to putting a tuner on a 6gt for PRS.

So yes, another tuner thread, I guess.

brianf · 2024-11-01T21:04:09-0400

Don’t say I didn’t warn you

oldrifleman · 2024-11-01T21:11:11-0400

I hate religious wars!

But they can be Fun! To those fighting against, they do work, do I still have one, no. I have never shot F Class, but I have shot small bore bench rest and understand the basics and have seen the results. Are they right everywhere, no, they are appropriate where precise bullet placement counts. Not sure they are right for PRS, I know I don’t need them these days.

Niles Coyote · 2024-11-01T22:38:21-0400

GT, no tuner, sell your tuner and xc stuff on the hide.

Dead Eye Dick · 2024-11-02T08:14:03-0400

As far as the tuner, never used one, but it looks like something else to worry with when trying to get twelve rounds, downrange at six different targets from two different shooting positions. (In 90 to 120 seconds depending on the match)

What a lot of people don’t say, but what is the truth, PRS as in most shooting sports requires confidence. If you have the slightest lack of confidence in your equipment, it takes a WHOLE LOT away from your shooting.

As far as which one to pick. Problem is, if you get half way serious, you are going to spend a whole lot more $$ in brass, bullets, probably different reloading dies and brass over what you have currently. So, making a choice Now, based on what you have Now, is pretty much a moot point. Since, the GT is a much more prevalent round in PRS, that is the way to go. (Because component availability is better) but that’s not to say the other won’t work. Just some musing on a Saturday morning, from past expense.

Lightning8 · 2024-11-02T10:03:47-0400

You can make 6XC work for PRS if you already have all the 6XC "stuff". 6XC gets a bad rap because there have been multiple issues with chamber reamers and brass not working together. Also, 6XC fits between 6GT and 6 Creedmoor in case capacity. For current PRS theory of low recoil, go slower 6XC may have too much case capacity. When I wore out my 6XC barrel - I moved to 6 Dasher. I use a tuner on my 22 but not on centerfire.

Budget Sniper · 2024-11-02T10:30:54-0400

oldrifleman said:
I hate religious wars! But they can be Fun! To those fighting against, they do work, do I still have one, no. I have never shot F Class, but I have shot small bore bench rest and understand the basics and have seen the results. Are they right everywhere, no, they are appropriate where precise bullet placement counts. Not sure they are right for PRS, I know I don’t need them these days.

Exactly what i was hoping to hear from someone who does it!

thank you!

Budget Sniper · 2024-11-02T10:34:37-0400

Dead Eye Dick said:
As far as the tuner, never used one, but it looks like something else to worry with when trying to get twelve rounds, downrange at six different targets from two different shooting positions. (In 90 to 120 seconds depending on the match)

What a lot of people don’t say, but what is the truth, PRS as in most shooting sports requires confidence. If you have the slightest lack of confidence in your equipment, it takes a WHOLE LOT away from your shooting.

As far as which one to pick. Problem is, if you get half way serious, you are going to spend a whole lot more $$ in brass, bullets, probably different reloading dies and brass over what you have currently. So, making a choice Now, based on what you have Now, is pretty much a moot point. Since, the GT is a much more prevalent round in PRS, that is the way to go. (Because component availability is better) but that’s not to say the other won’t work. Just some musing on a Saturday morning, from past expense.

You make a lot of sense... and I agree with the spending part, too. I'm going to run the GT to start and may get out of the XC altogether as another response suggested.

Taylorbok · 2024-11-02T12:00:05-0400

brianf said:
Don’t say I didn’t warn you

How many people gonna get banned?

Hickswr · 2024-11-02T12:18:56-0400

Niles Coyote said:
GT, no tuner, sell your tuner and xc stuff on the hide.

X2

cas6969 · 2024-11-02T12:41:39-0400

If you already have the tuner.... find the best load you can for the rifle. Then see if the tuner can improve it. (kinda obvious aint it? That's what they're for).

I had an EC Tuner/brake on a rifle. I took it off because it WASN'T on a rifle I had a load and stuck to it. It was on a rifle where 99.5% of what I do with it if change and fiddle with loads. So for that it didn't make sense. Where I'm going with this is.... I took it off and put on one of the well know, well respected, often suggested comps. And it didn't work as well as the EC did.

Taylorbok · 2024-11-02T13:18:57-0400

cas6969 said:
If you already have the tuner.... find the best load you can for the rifle. Then see if the tuner can improve it. (kinda obvious aint it? That's what they're for).

I had an EC Tuner/brake on a rifle. I took it off because it WASN'T on a rifle I had a load and stuck to it. It was on a rifle where 99.5% of what I do with it if change and fiddle with loads. So for that it didn't make sense. Where I'm going with this is.... I took it off and put on one of the well know, well respected, often suggested comps. And it didn't work as well as the EC did.

this post gave me an aneurysm.

cas6969 · 2024-11-02T14:56:23-0400

Thanks, it didn't take much.

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