Are ALL navy veterans SEALs or just the ones I meet?

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

Holy Phuck balls. Maybe it’s me but it seems the last 5 guys I’ve met have all claimed to be NAVY SEALs. I’m not even asking, I’m not displaying ANY military stuff. They just come right up to me and it starts off.

Oh blah blah blah told me you were in the service. I just wanted to come over and tell you how I was a SEAL and I got blowed up so that’s why I’m 260lbs of man flab.

I’m like “yeah man, I served as a nothing, doing nothing, I just needed money for college”

Then I let them talk, oh how they talk. They talk about EVERYTHING name dropping names like I even know these people. Idk anyone. Like I said I didn’t do anything, anywhere for anyone.

I just tell them I pushed a muffin cart at the Naval Hospital

I usually thank them for their cervix then laugh about it with guys I know who were on the teams.

Here’s the rub, they guys I know who were 100% on the teams never talk to ME about anything and they don’t need to. I’ve heard a few stories about the training. Enough to know how to spot a fake.

I used to think it was a horrendous crime against our brothers who stood up, raised their hand and willingly sought that life. Turns out they are VP material not criminals.

If you are a stolen valor Phuck like VP hopeful Tim I hope you stub your pinky toe today, tomorrow and the next day.

Next SeAL I meet telling me silly stories I’m posting your pic online.

/rant

-Doc
Muffin cart master

Redlion · Nov 4, 2024

I can't tolerate listening to anyone that boasts about military service that I can tell is lying and drastically embellishing.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

Redlion said:
I can't tolerate listening to anyone that boasts about military service that I can tell is lying and drastically embellishing.

It’s so bad.

I HATE it and who knows how long this particular person has been going on and on.

I’ve got a good mind to have a buddy call the quarterdeck and get me proof so I can get this HeRo shitcanned.

The worse part was his clearly visible “army cav” tattoo. Prob didn’t even go to MEPS and spread his buttcheeks for freedom.

Makinchips208 · Nov 4, 2024

I worked with two retired navy guys. One was some sort of electrician, the other was a mechanic. Both could mop a floor pretty good. Good guys.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

Makinchips208 said:
I worked with two retired navy guys. One was some sort of electrician, the other was a mechanic. Both could mop a floor pretty good. Good guys.

I used to joke I was the highest paid janitor in this country or any other. lol.

That’s what I’ll do next time.

“HEY! IDGAF, if you’re in the teams this floor wouldn’t look like shit, your body wouldn’t look like the floor either”

But then I’d prob get fired for HeRo bashing and not saluting a service dog

nikonNUT · Nov 4, 2024

I know exactly one dude who is legit (Not a SEAL. More of a squirrel.

) and he won't talk about shit. Very reserved and humble.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

nikonNUT said:
I know exactly one dude who is legit (Not a SEAL) and he won't talk about shit. Very reserved and humble.

almost like they have been trained not to run their mouths.

sloporsche · Nov 4, 2024

I have/had at least 6 re-tired navy friends who never fired a shot in anger that includes the one who served in vietnam and another who was on the forrestal DURING the fire ,the others destroyer duty .

earthtrekker1775 · Nov 4, 2024

All the ones that served in Vietnam apparently.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

earthtrekker1775 said:
All the ones that served in Vietnam apparently.

The last honest group I suppose.

Edsel · Nov 4, 2024

Redlion said:
I can't tolerate listening to anyone that boasts about military service that I can tell is lying and drastically embellishing.

Or authorizing / writing books on their “exploits.”

TicTacTex · Nov 4, 2024

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ said:
Holy Phuck balls. Maybe it’s me but it seems the last 5 guys I’ve met have all claimed to be NAVY SEALs. I’m not even asking, I’m not displaying ANY military stuff. They just come right up to me and it starts off.

Oh blah blah blah told me you were in the service. I just wanted to come over and tell you how I was a SEAL and I got blowed up so that’s why I’m 260lbs of man flab.

I’m like “yeah man, I served as a nothing, doing nothing, I just needed money for college”

Then I let them talk, oh how they talk. They talk about EVERYTHING name dropping names like I even know these people. Idk anyone. Like I said I didn’t do anything, anywhere for anyone.

I just tell them I pushed a muffin cart at the Naval Hospital

I usually thank them for their cervix then laugh about it with guys I know who were on the teams.

Here’s the rub, they guys I know who were 100% on the teams never talk to ME about anything and they don’t need to. I’ve heard a few stories about the training. Enough to know how to spot a fake.

I used to think it was a horrendous crime against our brothers who stood up, raised their hand and willingly sought that life. Turns out they are VP material not criminals.

If you are a stolen valor Phuck like VP hopeful Tim I hope you stub your pinky toe today, tomorrow and the next day.

Next SeAL I meet telling me silly stories I’m posting your pic online.

/rant

-Doc
Muffin cart master

Was The German one of them you talked to?

Edsel · Nov 4, 2024

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ said:
But then I’d prob get fired for HeRo bashing and not saluting a service dog

Cue in some Jack Nicholson scene from “A Few Good Men.”

Thou shalt lick the boots of thine own militocrati!

Peloton · Nov 4, 2024

Ditto. I’ve met a shocking number of “SEALS”

I started asking them their BUDS class number or where they went to BUDS and got some hilarious answers!! The most common answers is, “it’s top secret. I can’t tell you”

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

TicTacTex said:
Was The German one of them you talked to?

Nah.

I don’t travel to hear silly stories. This particular hErO and I work for the same organization.

A sweet little old lady co worker saw my veteran plates one day and got EXCITED to introduce me to one of our co workers who tells her hero stories at lunch. Sweet old gal. Her son serves too.

You would never know I’m a veteran, that plate has paid for itself a few times I’ve made less than stellar decisions. Once it was off-roading in the college green space because I was so excited to see snow and make tracks.

officer was a real nice guy and disclosed he was an 0311 veteran so he gave doc a break.

canman · Nov 4, 2024

I heard a man speak on this very subject. He said total Navy Seals that served in Vietnam were about 400, but there were probably no more then 120 or so there at the same time. He did say over the years he has had at least 1000 men say they were.

TheHorta · Nov 4, 2024

If “SEAL” is code for gay, then yes, all Navy Semen are SEALs.

D1gger · Nov 4, 2024

Back in the late 90's, when I had a Gun Shop, everyone was a Vietnam sniper. If you asked them about the rifles they would have carried, they all said some super secret BS. I guess today everyone wants to be a Seal

Aftermath · Nov 4, 2024

Next time just say:
"I don't think that I have read your book. Which one did you write? Have any movie deals in the works? Think I could get a part?"

Gemsbok · Nov 4, 2024

It used to be we all wanted to grow up to be firemen.
It's natural for a young man to want to be a hero and it should be encouraged.
For some, though, it's too much reality when they end up having to be a different kind of hero, or not one at all.

Bacarrat · Nov 4, 2024

Shit, go to a public range that has a longer range to shoot at. I have never met so many snipers in my life. I was talking to one of those "peoples" and he didnt even know what a Mil or MOA was.

People just want to feel important. I get it. But don't lie, we see through your BS.

skytrooper67 · Nov 4, 2024

As soon as they say they "was" a seal you know its bullshit. Once a Marine always be a Marine, once a Ranger always a be Ranger, once Seal always be a Seal. So much stolen valor it makes you puke.

Ric O'shay · Nov 4, 2024

Did you'r Muffin Cart have a 50?

Sniperwannabee · Nov 4, 2024

Heck if you’re going to lie you might as well go for the top and say you were delta

sloporsche · Nov 4, 2024

Sniperwannabee said:
Heck if you’re going to lie you might as well go for the top and say you were delta

If i were to lie it would be a war i won at least

Ronws · Nov 4, 2024

My father-in-law was a PFC and was in the 9th USAAF 410 Light Bomber Group 646th Squadron and he worked in the mess hall. Because he knew some German (from family heritage and relatives,) he was also caretaker for german POWs, giving them work assignments, etc. He was just as important as any flying ace.

He didn't talk much about it but I got to go with him the VFW events. One morning, near their war memorial is a VFW hall where we went for breakfast and "shit on a shingle."

It seems that many want the glory of special forces. The one thing that makes me wonder if someone actually served is when they say they don't hunt (deer) because they have already "hunted the most dangerous game," i.e., humans who can shoot back.

For me, the two things are different. You shoot enemy agents as a matter of war. You shoot deer to harvest and eat.

The best way to verify a SEAL is yes, ask his bud/S class number and also, you can contact Don Shipley, who has dedicated his life to exposing fake SEALs and has access to the SEAL membership rolls.

wvfarrier · Nov 4, 2024

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ said:
Holy Phuck balls. Maybe it’s me but it seems the last 5 guys I’ve met have all claimed to be NAVY SEALs. I’m not even asking, I’m not displaying ANY military stuff. They just come right up to me and it starts off.

Oh blah blah blah told me you were in the service. I just wanted to come over and tell you how I was a SEAL and I got blowed up so that’s why I’m 260lbs of man flab.

I’m like “yeah man, I served as a nothing, doing nothing, I just needed money for college”

Then I let them talk, oh how they talk. They talk about EVERYTHING name dropping names like I even know these people. Idk anyone. Like I said I didn’t do anything, anywhere for anyone.

I just tell them I pushed a muffin cart at the Naval Hospital

I usually thank them for their cervix then laugh about it with guys I know who were on the teams.

Here’s the rub, they guys I know who were 100% on the teams never talk to ME about anything and they don’t need to. I’ve heard a few stories about the training. Enough to know how to spot a fake.

I used to think it was a horrendous crime against our brothers who stood up, raised their hand and willingly sought that life. Turns out they are VP material not criminals.

If you are a stolen valor Phuck like VP hopeful Tim I hope you stub your pinky toe today, tomorrow and the next day.

Next SeAL I meet telling me silly stories I’m posting your pic online.

/rant

-Doc
Muffin cart master

I used to shoe horses for a guy who claimed to be a SEAL. He had all these stories about his activities which, if true, would probably fall under pretty high security clearance. Anyway, his soon to be ex-wife told me he was a complete and total liar.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

Ric O'shay said:
Did you'r Muffin Cart have a 50?

No. It did have a plentiful supply of Bore Punchers & a vast array of STD meds. Those marines and sailors will put that pecker ANYWHERE

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

Ronws said:
My father-in-law was a PFC and was in the 9th USAAF 410 Light Bomber Group 646th Squadron and he worked in the mess hall. Because he knew some German (from family heritage and relatives,) he was also caretaker for german POWs, giving them work assignments, etc. He was just as important as any flying ace.

He didn't talk much about it but I got to go with him the VFW events. One morning, near their war memorial is a VFW hall where we went for breakfast and "shit on a shingle."

It seems that many want the glory of special forces. The one thing that makes me wonder if someone actually served is when they say they don't hunt (deer) because they have already "hunted the most dangerous game," i.e., humans who can shoot back.

For me, the two things are different. You shoot enemy agents as a matter of war. You shoot deer to harvest and eat.

The best way to verify a SEAL is yes, ask his bud/S class number and also, you can contact Don Shipley, who has dedicated his life to exposing fake SEALs and has access to the SEAL membership rolls.

Don must be a busy man. I’ve watched a few of his YT videos.

They make me sick.

Now the hopeful VP has shown me it’s an everywhere.

Maybe I’ll get lucky and “my” fake seal will crack under pressure one day when it matters and someone can say “yo man, I thought you were a seal” more like a fucking walrus.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

wvfarrier said:
I used to shoe horses for a guy who claimed to be a SEAL. He had all these stories about his activities which, if true, would probably fall under pretty high security clearance. Anyway, his soon to be ex-wife told me he was a complete and total liar.

idk man. I hate an ex wife as much as I hate stolen valor. Maybe more. Never got forced to pay alimony to a stolen valor punk.

papershredder · Nov 4, 2024

I know one legit Seal. Haven't seen him since high school. Every once in a great while I see one of his brothers out and about in town. I've only met 1 USMC scout sniper, friend of one of my paintball team mates. He wasn't too pleased with me, being a civvy, wearing MARPAT camo that day. Made his thoughts known. To his credit, this was early GWOT days and MARPAT was just recently issued, plus he was dealing with the recent trauma of his spotter getting his throat slit. The guy fell asleep with headphones on and an insurgent snuck up on them. The big story tellers I've came across were guys claiming to be tunnel rats in Vietnam.

M8541Reaper · Nov 4, 2024

I exclusively stay at holiday inn expresses. #IHGHero
So obviously I’m a seal.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Nov 4, 2024

M8541Reaper said:
I exclusively stay at holiday inn expresses. #IHGHero
So obviously I’m a seal.

Holiday inn?!

Your publisher sucks bro.

Bullfrog08 · Nov 4, 2024

Seems like everybody has a "good friend" or "buddy" that was a Seal too.

Bullfrog08 · Nov 4, 2024

You know how you know if a person is a veteran?...dont worry, they will let you know!

diverdon · Nov 4, 2024

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ said:
Holy Phuck balls. Maybe it’s me but it seems the last 5 guys I’ve met have all claimed to be NAVY SEALs. I’m not even asking, I’m not displaying ANY military stuff. They just come right up to me and it starts off.

Oh blah blah blah told me you were in the service. I just wanted to come over and tell you how I was a SEAL and I got blowed up so that’s why I’m 260lbs of man flab.

I’m like “yeah man, I served as a nothing, doing nothing, I just needed money for college”

Then I let them talk, oh how they talk. They talk about EVERYTHING name dropping names like I even know these people. Idk anyone. Like I said I didn’t do anything, anywhere for anyone.

I just tell them I pushed a muffin cart at the Naval Hospital

I usually thank them for their cervix then laugh about it with guys I know who were on the teams.

Here’s the rub, they guys I know who were 100% on the teams never talk to ME about anything and they don’t need to. I’ve heard a few stories about the training. Enough to know how to spot a fake.

I used to think it was a horrendous crime against our brothers who stood up, raised their hand and willingly sought that life. Turns out they are VP material not criminals.

If you are a stolen valor Phuck like VP hopeful Tim I hope you stub your pinky toe today, tomorrow and the next day.

Next SeAL I meet telling me silly stories I’m posting your pic online.

/rant
-Doc
Muffin cart master

I was an Electronics Technician.

DocRDS · Nov 4, 2024

Yeah its a thing.

My best friend spent several years in the Army. He rarely talks about it (ok we rarely talk about anything other than how much things suck) But he was pretty stoked when we re-visted his old stomping grounds on vacation.

Also he is very rigid about planning, like it was drilled into him or something....

He did it back before it was all cool and shit to be MIL. so bonus for him--kinda got him straightened out for life.

All the ww1, ww2, Korea, Vietnam vets I've met did say shit.
Grandpa taught us the MC Hymn (None of his friends came back--he got lucky and ended up with a lame foot).
Good Friend said he dumped Agent orange on himself.
Homeroom teacher served 2 years, 3 months, and 6 days in Korea.

That's all I ever got outta em.

Tim_WNC · Nov 4, 2024

Give these guys a break, not everyone can be a Seabee.

OkieMike · Nov 4, 2024

diverdon said:
I was an Electronics Technician.

Ex's older sister was married to a Navy Electronics tech. Great guy, did 2 tours in Vietnam.

I asked him about his experience once. He kinda chuckled and said there wasn't much to tell. He said he kept his ass inside the wire and rebuilt field radios for the Marines... Too much going on outside the wire that he wanted no part of.

Mike

Ronws · Nov 4, 2024

Tim_WNC said:
Give these guys a break, not everyone can be a Seabee.

I knew a Seabee. Not much of an electrician. They paid him to run parts and supplies and tools to job sites. Less actual touching of the work, the better.

But he was a nice guy and had gun collection that would probably rival most average guys here.

My working friend, Lee, who was at my wedding and his wife, Pat, made a hanging banner of wedding photos screened into fabric for us, was a SEAL.

Part of it is yes, the not talking about combat much, if at all. Other than his specialty, which was sneaking into NVA and Viet Cong tunnels and planting charges to remotely detonate, he did not have a body count and did not brag about it. I never saw his paperwork, and this was before it was all the rage to claim to be a SEAL.

He graduated bud/S program (created in 1962) in early 1964 and then spent 3 active combat tours and finally exiting 1969. In his words, "I spent three Christmases on the laotian-cambodian border."

I don't know what his DD-214 would declare and he never showed it to me. He said he was a second class petty officer. On the boat ride home, exiting the Team and the Navy, he was talking with the XO who asked what he thought could be changed aboard ship to make things better. He told him. The XO crapped all over his ideas and he reached across and gob-smacked that XO.

So, he finished the boat ride home in the brig and walked off the plank in the Port of Los Angeles as a seaman.

He had "that look" of someone who has been in combat. Not once did he ask for a veteran's benefit or discount. He was not fond of military healthcare and he said he would have served for free but they kept paying him combat pay. We were, indeed, fighting communists.

His life was not about reliving the days as a SEAL. It was about his grandkids and what cute things they were doing.

MadDuner · Nov 4, 2024

I’ve spent time with a former SEAL, and a former Scout Sniper. They are both outstanding humans - with broken bodies. Neither of them tell big stories. Both can shoot!

Bender · Nov 4, 2024

SEALS are picked for unrelenting brute force scalpel situations in and out.

Army Rangers are picked for brains and abilities on top of physical abilities.

Ronws · Nov 4, 2024

The only scout sniper I know of (not personally) is our illustrious host.

Funny thing is, I don't so much envy the resume to include Marine Scout Sniper as I envy the rifle he has with the Chlamydia Action.

918v · Nov 4, 2024

D1gger said:
Back in the late 90's, when I had a Gun Shop, everyone was a Vietnam sniper. If you asked them about the rifles they would have carried, they all said some super secret BS. I guess today everyone wants to be a Seal

No one claiming to be a space cowboy?

Ronws · Nov 4, 2024

918v said:
No one claiming to be a space cowboy?

Some people call me the space cowboy.
Some people call me the gangster of love.
Some people call me Maurice
'Cause I speak of the pompatus of love...

Tim_WNC · Nov 4, 2024

Ronws said:
I knew a Seabee. Not much of an electrician.

He was probably a poser. ‘Cause all Bees are certified bad asses. I mean, c’mon, was John Wayne ever a SEAL? No. But he WAS a Seabee. /thread.

AZLong · Nov 4, 2024

diverdon said:
I was an Electronics Technician.

FTG here.

BLEE · Nov 4, 2024

I've only met one, when he was in med school. He was the real deal, SEAL Team 2. He had some fascinating stories of what shaped charge plasma jet can do. He's been an MD for probably 15 years now.

mi650 · Nov 4, 2024

Tim_WNC said:
He was probably a poser. ‘Cause all Bees are certified bad asses. I mean, c’mon, was John Wayne ever a SEAL? No. But he WAS a Seabee. /thread.

And a Green Beret.

DuneBoer · Nov 4, 2024

mi650 said:
And a Green Beret.

Yeah I remember the old days when they were all "Ex-Green Berets"

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