Shipping ammo may get tougher

Maggot · Nov 14, 2024

Didnt know where else to put this but Ishipped out a bit of Ammo yesterday at UPS. They have a big sign up saying that "effective 17 November" the regional office will be closing. I asked the guy behind the desk about that (since you have to take the ammo to the regional location and not just a UPS store) and he told me that a lot of them are closing. I dont know if thats just in this area (SW Oklahoma) but if its nationwide, thats going to pretty much screw up all private ammo sales/shipping.

Anyone else able to add to this?

If there's a better place for it mods, please move.

prebancolt · Nov 14, 2024

Yep, happening here in NC also. They closed the UPS hub here in this county. The largest county in the state. Go figure...

Mg427 · Nov 14, 2024

Same in central Florida. Sucks

NHPiper · Nov 14, 2024

Same in Manchester NH. No longer open to the public for shipping these kinds of things but still a distribution center.

Estes640 · Nov 14, 2024

Yep, closed around my area as well. You are still able to go through scheduled pickups if I understand the rules correctly. From what I know that’s about the only option now

Maggot · Nov 14, 2024

Estes640 said:
Yep, closed around my area as well. You are still able to go through scheduled pickups if I understand the rules correctly. From what I know that’s about the only option now

Helps to know they will still do home pick up. Is there an additional charge?

CEO10KaDAY · Nov 14, 2024

Brandon Herrera as director of the atf is going to change all of this

Estes640 · Nov 14, 2024

Maggot said:
Helps to know they will still do home pick up. Is there an additional charge?

Of course

and don’t quote me on the home pickup. I just remember reading that somewhere. I think it’s still allowed

Rockworx · Nov 14, 2024

Yep same for California. I believe home pickup is an option for an additional charge.

crystalgayleguy · Nov 14, 2024

They shut the hub in Denton texas down they have to come from near the texas motor speedway now

rpg777 · Nov 14, 2024

Yeah same here, no local place that accepts walk-in drop offs. Home pickup is still okay, and yeah of course there's an additional charge for that. It wasn't much but I think I was back charged an additional fee after the fact, perhaps for the ammo sticker on the side. I dunno.

bachelorjack · Nov 14, 2024

I don't understand these posts. I also don't work for ups so their company policies are not my concern.

Get a ups account. Or use pirateship.com.

Print your own postage. Send it ground. Put on an ormd label.

Drop it off at a ups store. Or hand it to a ups driver.

I buy stuff online. Ups is coming to the house once a week anyways. Same dude who delivers can take it.

Assuming there are no ups stores or drivers or trucks in the shithole you call home. There is the option of scheduling a ups pickup at your house. Or calling staples and seeing if they have a regular ups pickup.

So to recap. I cannot understand what you are all talking about.

muad · Nov 14, 2024

Same here, closed our local center and the UPS store refuses to accept ammo or firearms.

You have to either find a driver, or go to a center. Closest to me is 35-40 minutes.

Found a loophole. Local ACE Hardware is a drop-off location. Have dropped off several shipments with ORMD labels affixed and UPS labels I printed off at home. Not one issue.

NiteQwill · Nov 14, 2024

All Customer Care centers are pretty much closed nationwide. If you need to ship a firearm or ammo, just schedule a pickup. Or if you have a UPS store that accepts firearms and ammo, like mine, just drop it off.

Use pirateship... Easy.

Baron23 · Nov 14, 2024

NHPiper said:
Same in Manchester NH. No longer open to the public for shipping these kinds of things but still a distribution center.

Here in Montgomery county Maryland also. Just like this ^^.

Sgp12345 · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
I don't understand these posts. I also don't work for ups so their company policies are not my concern.

Get a ups account. Or use pirateship.com.

Print your own postage. Send it ground. Put on an ormd label.

Drop it off at a ups store. Or hand it to a ups driver.

I buy stuff online. Ups is coming to the house once a week anyways. Same dude who delivers can take it.

Assuming there are no ups stores or drivers or trucks in the shithole you call home. There is the option of scheduling a ups pickup at your house. Or calling staples and seeing if they have a regular ups pickup.

So to recap. I cannot understand what you are all talking about.

ORM-D labels.. phased out years ago.

bachelorjack · Nov 14, 2024

How do they know what is in the box? Unless you tell them...

Sgp12345 · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
How do they know what is in the box? Unless you tell them...

All I’m saying is the limited quantity label replaced ORMD back in 21

NiteQwill · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
How do they know what is in the box? Unless you tell them...

If you're shipping anything of value, declaration is needed for insurance purposes. If you don't care about that, then whatever.

With that said UPS lost a rifle of mine several years ago, I was reimbursed full insurance value on it: $4.5k

bachelorjack · Nov 14, 2024

Sgp12345 said:
All I’m saying is the limited quantity label replaced ORMD back in 21

I looked it up. Same stupid black and white diamond logo.

Sorry my nommenclature was inaccurate. I don't work for ups.

Same same

bachelorjack · Nov 14, 2024

NiteQwill said:
If you're shipping anything of value, declaration is needed for insurance purposes. If you don't care about that, then whatever.

With that said UPS lost a rifle of mine several years ago, I was reimbursed full insurance value on it: $4.5k

Yup. Guess most will be unable to get insurance through the carrier. Those that do may have trouble claiming

krw · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
Yup. Guess most will be unable to get insurance through the carrier. Those that do may have trouble claiming

I shippd a KMW rifle some years back. Insured it for $3200. The UPS driver opened it up at the drop point. I was furious when I found out the next day!!

muad · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
How do they know what is in the box? Unless you tell them...

When I create a shipment online, you must declare the contents. It’s a required field.

muad · Nov 14, 2024

Sgp12345 said:
All I’m saying is the limited quantity label replaced ORMD back in 21

My bad, I still call them ORMD also. I only use the diamond portion.

bachelorjack · Nov 14, 2024

muad said:
When I create a shipment online, you must declare the contents. It’s a required field.

Try pirateship.com

muad · Nov 14, 2024

bachelorjack said:
Try pirateship.com

Yeah, my FFL uses/recommends them. I always forget, and have had a UPS account for 15 years or better.

Maggot · Nov 15, 2024

NiteQwill said:
If you're shipping anything of value, declaration is needed for insurance purposes. If you don't care about that, then whatever.

With that said UPS lost a rifle of mine several years ago, I was reimbursed full insurance value on it: $4.5k

That inhales a big one. I wonder if they ever found a 4.5K rifle?

TheOE800 · Nov 15, 2024

bachelorjack said:
I don't understand these posts. I also don't work for ups so their company policies are not my concern.

Get a ups account. Or use pirateship.com.

Print your own postage. Send it ground. Put on an ormd label.

Drop it off at a ups store. Or hand it to a ups driver.

I buy stuff online. Ups is coming to the house once a week anyways. Same dude who delivers can take it.

Assuming there are no ups stores or drivers or trucks in the shithole you call home. There is the option of scheduling a ups pickup at your house. Or calling staples and seeing if they have a regular ups pickup.

So to recap. I cannot understand what you are all talking about.

The franchise stores don’t accept hazardous shipping. No limited quantity, no nothing.

Maggot · Nov 15, 2024

bachelorjack said:
Try pirateship.com

Thanks, I've been using Shippo but they dont provide for pick up. This will save a lot of trips to UPS and the post office.

kentuckyMarksman · Nov 15, 2024

All the UPS customer service centers around me have closed. Last time I shipped Ammo I paid FedEx $3 to come pick up the box. Worked well.

NiteQwill · Nov 15, 2024

Maggot said:
That inhales a big one. I wonder if they ever found a 4.5K rifle?

It's probably in someone's house overseas.

CJC73 · Nov 15, 2024

I've never used UPS for shipping anything, often times I've found them too expensive (for me and compared to FedEx). I have given packages to a UPS driver before when they're dropping stuff off at my house. I get nervous since one the driver didn't check it in when he returned to the hub and I had to track him (actually another driver that went by my house) to get it found and checked in.

I use FedEx a lot, I have a ground hub nearby that I can drop off ammo (or anything) if I need to and the prices are usually cheaper or on par with USPS.

kentuckyMarksman · Nov 15, 2024

CJC73 said:
I use FedEx a lot, I have a ground hub nearby that I can drop off ammo (or anything) if I need to and the prices are usually cheaper or on par with USPS.

Interesting! The Fedex Hub I work by won't allow me to drop off ammo, or any hazmat items. Hence why I had to schedule a pickup.

wvfarrier · Nov 15, 2024

They closed the 2 local ones here in WV last October. Our driver said its cost cutting measure, however, now we have to go almost 3 hours to next closest one

Ankeny · Nov 17, 2024

If you're shipping anything of value, declaration is needed for insurance purposes. If you don't care about that, then whatever.

I learned that the hard way. I printed a label with my UPS account to send 6,000 rounds of 9mm ammo (insured for $1500.00) to my brother. Dropped it off at Ace Hardware in Riverton, WY. UPS driver picked it up and the ammo never even made it out of the Riverton depot. Yep, stolen by one of their local employees. No action was taken, and the insurance was not valid because I didn't drop it off at the center in person to activate the insurance.

hlee · Nov 17, 2024

bachelorjack said:
I don't understand these posts. I also don't work for ups so their company policies are not my concern.

Get a ups account. Or use pirateship.com.

Print your own postage. Send it ground. Put on an ormd label.

Drop it off at a ups store. Or hand it to a ups driver.

I buy stuff online. Ups is coming to the house once a week anyways. Same dude who delivers can take it.

Assuming there are no ups stores or drivers or trucks in the shithole you call home. There is the option of scheduling a ups pickup at your house. Or calling staples and seeing if they have a regular ups pickup.

So to recap. I cannot understand what you are all talking about.

Some people find drama. Others look for it. Others still create it where it wouldn’t otherwise exist.

NHPiper · Nov 17, 2024

Ankeny said:
I learned that the hard way. I printed a label with my UPS account to send 6,000 rounds of 9mm ammo (insured for $1500.00) to my brother. Dropped it off at Ace Hardware in Riverton, WY. UPS driver picked it up and the ammo never even made it out of the Riverton depot. Yep, stolen by one of their local employees. No action was taken, and the insurance was not valid because I didn't drop it off at the center in person to activate the insurance.

All of my stuff from reloading, to NV, to guns is insured via Collectibles Insurance. Turns out that as long as you send items with a signature required, the insurance policy they have covers you until the buyer signs for it. It is well worth the $800 a year to cover $150K of equipment. I have almost paid for 2/3 of the annual premium in savings on insurance that UPS or FEDEX would have charged me when I shipped night vision gear or high value scopes.

Maggot · Nov 17, 2024

Ankeny said:
I learned that the hard way. I printed a label with my UPS account to send 6,000 rounds of 9mm ammo (insured for $1500.00) to my brother. Dropped it off at Ace Hardware in Riverton, WY. UPS driver picked it up and the ammo never even made it out of the Riverton depot. Yep, stolen by one of their local employees. No action was taken, and the insurance was not valid because I didn't drop it off at the center in person to activate the insurance.

I wonder if you had it picked up at your home by the driver the insurance would be valid?

Pbgt · Nov 17, 2024

Funny you should mention it....the ups guys we shoot long range with ALWAYS have the nicest rifles......

akmike47 · Nov 17, 2024

CEO10KaDAY said:
Brandon Herrera as director of the atf is going to change all of this

The office is closing and it’s not a government entity you retard. Anyone in the atf wouldn’t change this.

NoDopes · Nov 17, 2024

akmike47 said:
The office is closing and it’s not a government entity you retard. Anyone in the atf wouldn’t change this.

He could remove their existing unconstitutional "duties" and turn the ATF into a federally subsidized guns and ammo delivery service.
Free but plug with every delivery because they have warehouses full of them already.

akmike47 · Nov 17, 2024

NoDopes said:
He could remove their existing unconstitutional "duties" and turn the ATF into a federally subsidized guns and ammo delivery service.
Free but plug with every delivery because they have warehouses full of them already.

Stop telling us about your oddly specific fetishes

Ronws · Nov 17, 2024

bachelorjack said:
Assuming there are no ups stores or drivers or trucks in the shithole you call home. There is the option of scheduling a ups pickup at your house. Or calling staples and seeing if they have a regular ups pickup.

So to recap. I cannot understand what you are all talking about.

You didn't have to read the posts.

But I would like to point out an inaccuracy. It is mathematically less likely that his town (assuming @Maggot is who you are addressing), which is a nice enough place is a shithole, as you have described it, primarily because you are not there.

Sblzrd65 · Nov 18, 2024

It is a bit lame. I know there's lots of pop-up mini UPS stores in town by me, but for an actual drop off there's one almost on the other side of town.

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