How do you make Thanksgiving Stuffing?

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It’s that time of year again. When happy families gather with all their loved ones and maybe some not so loved ones, to celebrate the bounty life brings, or not.

So the most important question on everyone’s minds is making the stuffing for the turkey, right?

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It’s probably obvious to all that a good stuffing uses cubed toasted bread with spices, giblets and neck that have been steeped with celery, garlic and onion (the resulting broth used later in the preparation) then broken down to add to the mix. Celery, onion, garlic, poultry seasoning and other spices, all mixed with some additional chicken broth to the right consistency and stuffed into the cavities of the turkey while hot. Then also a large casserole pan of the same stuffing baked with it so that there’s enough.

Then, after Thanksgiving dinner, a later night huge sandwich with turkey, that same stuffing, cranberry sauce and mayonnaise on a heavy white bread for dessert.

I mean, is there another way? 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Not in the bird. If the stuffing is to temp the bird is overdone.
Yeah, yeah Yeah. For amateurs, that’s good advice. Maybe you missed the fact that the stuffing is cooked and hot when you stuff the bird. People who know, know this. Pay attention. The bird is cooked with one of those new-fangled de-vices called a Thermo-meter. Nobody likes dry bird, except maybe auntie Sadie so that you have to use more of her gravy made with toads eyes and belly button of newt.
 
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as long as somebody doesn't try to make "fancy" dressing with fruit and/or nuts, that is my favorite part of the holiday.
turkey noodle soup with leftovers, with dollops of dressing (like dumplings) is great!

The fruits and nuts are slowly fading thanks to the election results! :cool: 👌
 
Pork sausage an mushrooms plus that other stuff.
No salt while making broth so the reduction isn't too salty.
Maybe toasted pinon, raisons or cranberries ... but no other nuts or fruit.
My bird doesn't get roasted whole, so not "in the bird" it just gets soggy in there anyway.
 
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It’s that time of year again. When happy families gather with all their loved ones and maybe some not so loved ones, to celebrate the bounty life brings, or not.

So the most important question on everyone’s minds is making the stuffing for the turkey, right?

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It’s probably obvious to all that a good stuffing uses cubed toasted bread with spices, giblets and neck that have been steeped with celery, garlic and onion (the resulting broth used later in the preparation) then broken down to add to the mix. Celery, onion, garlic, poultry seasoning and other spices, all mixed with some additional chicken broth to the right consistency and stuffed into the cavities of the turkey while hot. Then also a large casserole pan of the same stuffing baked with it so that there’s enough.

Then, after Thanksgiving dinner, a later night huge sandwich with turkey, that same stuffing, cranberry sauce and mayonnaise on a heavy white bread for dessert.

I mean, is there another way? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Don't cook it in the bird. It makes cooking the bird properly and getting a safe temperature for the stuffing impossible. Stuffing needs to be at 160 degrees to be safe to eat. Getting the stuffing cooked perfectly and crisped at the end is easier.

You can try this one if you're looking for a different recipe. My wife never lets me experiment and she calls it

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it stuffing.

1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, plus more
2 pounds of freshly made bread. Go to a bakery, get fresh bread, and dry it out for a day. Use ½ sourdough and ½ rye, or multi-grain bread. Slice the bread into 1-inch-thick slices and make ½ to ¾-inch cubed pieces.

1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
1/2-pound spicy sausage, casings removed and crumbled
1/2-pound sweet sausage, casings removed and crumbled
1 large onion, finely chopped
4 celery stalks, finely chopped
2 teaspoons Diamond Crystal or 1.5 teaspoons Morton kosher salt
One teaspoon of freshly ground black pepper, plus more
½ teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes
½ cup dry white wine
¼ cup finely chopped parsley
1 tablespoon finely chopped sage
1 tablespoon finely chopped thyme
3 large eggs, beaten
3 to 4 cups of low-sodium chicken broth

Recipe Preparation

Place racks in the middle and top of the oven; preheat to 300°. Divide bread between 2 rimmed baking sheets and bake on the racks, tossing occasionally, until dried out (do not let brown more than just a bit around the edges), 25–35 minutes. Let cool and pour into a large pot.

Heat oil in a large skillet over medium-high. Cook the sausage until browned underneath, about 3 minutes. Break up into bite-size pieces with 2 spatulas or spoons and continue to cook, tossing occasionally, until cooked through, about 5 minutes longer. Transfer sausage to a plate. Make sure you get the oil as well.

Reduce heat to medium and melt one stick of butter in the same skillet. Add onion and celery; season lightly with salt and pepper. Cook, stirring occasionally, until vegetables are very tender but not browned, 12–15 minutes. Add the wine and red pepper flakes and scrape the bottom of the skillet to release any browned bits. Bring to a boil and cook until the wine has evaporated. Turn off the heat toss in parsley, sage, and thyme, and let the mixture cool in the skillet. Add this and the sausage to the bread when cool. Mix well.

Make up to this part the day before. Cover the pot with plastic wrap and put it into the fridge.

Next morning (T-Day)
Whisk eggs and 2 cups stock in a large bowl. Pour into bread, sausage, and veggie mixture and toss well to combine. Add 2 tsp salt and 1 tsp. pepper. Mix with hands well. Add remaining stock slowly until the correct consistency is reached. You will not need all of the stock. The stuffing should hold together but not be too wet. Let sit, toss occasionally, and put aside until later in the day.

Transfer the stuffing to a baking dish that has been coated with butter. Use a sheet of foil to cover the dish. Bake on the middle rack at 350 degrees until very hot throughout (it should feel too hot to comfortably touch in the center; an instant-read thermometer inserted into the center should register 160°), 35–40 minutes. Make sure it reaches 160 degrees.

Increase oven temperature to 425°. Remove the foil and transfer the baking dish to the top rack. Continue to bake the stuffing until it's golden brown, 25–30 minutes longer.

It's pretty good
 
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I follow the directions on the box…or better yet, let the professional chef in family make it. I got up Monday morning to find 12-15 casserole dishes in the kitchen with labels indicating what would be in them. She hasn’t slacked off yet.

Ditto. Stuffing is better than turkey.
 
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This is the time of year, that I wish I'd paid more attention to how momma made her dressing ( never stuffed in bird ).
Basically the same as O.P. but used corn meal. Sauce' onion, celery ,a tad of garlic ?......see I didn't pay attention.

Anyhow , we didn't eat much turkey,too po.........Wood Ducks were our meal.......boil em.....make cornbread dressing bread .....crumble cornbread in big ass dish ...add ducks......juice from boiled ducks......place in broiler until golden.......and graze

Wish I'd paid more attention
 
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Triple handling the stuffing so it appears to be “in the bird” just seems like an ego move that’s totally unnecessary. And that sandwich bullshit at the end was absurd. Other than that, it needs some sausage and dried cranberries and hazelnuts. Or if I’m with my grandparents (in spirit) oysters. But yeah, stuffing is better than turkey.
 
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It’s that time of year again. When happy families gather with all their loved ones and maybe some not so loved ones, to celebrate the bounty life brings, or not.

So the most important question on everyone’s minds is making the stuffing for the turkey, right?

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It’s probably obvious to all that a good stuffing uses cubed toasted bread with spices, giblets and neck that have been steeped with celery, garlic and onion (the resulting broth used later in the preparation) then broken down to add to the mix. Celery, onion, garlic, poultry seasoning and other spices, all mixed with some additional chicken broth to the right consistency and stuffed into the cavities of the turkey while hot. Then also a large casserole pan of the same stuffing baked with it so that there’s enough.

Then, after Thanksgiving dinner, a later night huge sandwich with turkey, that same stuffing, cranberry sauce and mayonnaise on a heavy white bread for dessert.

I mean, is there another way? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes.
Add cornbread
 
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I'm smoking the turkey after brining for about 8hrs. We don't stuff our bird around here, we have dressing as a side instead. Which consists of ground up cornbread, biscuits, celery, onion, and spices and ends up as a sheet baked thing that is amazing at 11PM with a couple of deviled eggs.
 
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I mean, is there another way? 🤷🏻‍♂️
There is an additional step that we employ. We place bacon on top of the turkey as it cooks so the bacon drippings soak into the turkey. As the bacon gets crisped on top of the bird we remove and place more bacon. Take the crisped bacon and chop finely. (plan on 10-20% wastage as the cook nibbles on the bacon strips before they get chopped up). By the time the bird with the stuffing inside is done you will have a large bowl of diced bacon. remove stuffing from bird when done, add bacon to the stuffing and mix well. The bacon soaked turkey will be moist and your stuffing will have a nice hint of salty bacon that really sets the stuffing off.
 
My dear deceased mom could make the best dressing I’ve ever tasted. BUT she used chicken versus turkey. Always used local chickens not overdosed on steroids and such. Always moist , never dry ….she had her shit together.
My former mother in law on the other hand couldn’t cook period. Her cornbread dressing could be used to plug large leaks on roofs . It would set up and be hard as a rock. Don’t miss it one bit. 🥴
 
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I'm smoking the turkey after brining for about 8hrs. We don't stuff our bird around here, we have dressing as a side instead. Which consists of ground up cornbread, biscuits, celery, onion, and spices and ends up as a sheet baked thing that is amazing at 11PM with a couple of deviled eggs.

That’s what the boys are doing. Wife does everything else. I play with the grandkids and eat.
 
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Triple handling the stuffing so it appears to be “in the bird” just seems like an ego move that’s totally unnecessary. And that sandwich bullshit at the end was absurd. Other than that, it needs some sausage and dried cranberries and hazelnuts. Or if I’m with my grandparents (in spirit) oysters. But yeah, stuffing is better than turkey.
I did forget to include that we use pork sausage in it, so I’ll give you that. Hahaha regarding your “ ego move” comment.

And the sandwich is not absurd. Just because you never eaten something doesn’t make it absurd, it just means that your simple and unaware…😄
 
There is an additional step that we employ. We place bacon on top of the turkey as it cooks so the bacon drippings soak into the turkey. As the bacon gets crisped on top of the bird we remove and place more bacon. Take the crisped bacon and chop finely. (plan on 10-20% wastage as the cook nibbles on the bacon strips before they get chopped up). By the time the bird with the stuffing inside is done you will have a large bowl of diced bacon. remove stuffing from bird when done, add bacon to the stuffing and mix well. The bacon soaked turkey will be moist and your stuffing will have a nice hint of salty bacon that really sets the stuffing off.
I like that.
 
Then, after Thanksgiving dinner, a later night huge sandwich with turkey, that same stuffing, cranberry sauce and mayonnaise on a heavy white bread …

Hell yeah!

Only difference for us is that we use homemade cranberry chutney (cooked and canned last night), miracle whip vs. mayo, and add a bit of gravy.

If we’re making the leftovers sandwich as an actual meal, instead of a drizzle of hot gravy, we add a 3rd slice of bread soaked in gravy in the middle of the sandwich…we call it “the moist maker” when made that way. Friggin’ scrump!
 
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Don't cook it in the bird. It makes cooking the bird properly and getting a safe temperature for the stuffing impossible. Stuffing needs to be at 160 degrees to be safe to eat. Getting the stuffing cooked perfectly and crisped at the end is easier.

You can try this one if you're looking for a different recipe. My wife never lets me experiment and she calls it

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it stuffing.

1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter, plus more
2 pounds of freshly made bread. Go to a bakery, get fresh bread, and dry it out for a day. Use ½ sourdough and ½ rye, or multi-grain bread. Slice the bread into 1-inch-thick slices and make ½ to ¾-inch cubed pieces.

1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
1/2-pound spicy sausage, casings removed and crumbled
1/2-pound sweet sausage, casings removed and crumbled
1 large onion, finely chopped
4 celery stalks, finely chopped
2 teaspoons Diamond Crystal or 1.5 teaspoons Morton kosher salt
One teaspoon of freshly ground black pepper, plus more
½ teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes
½ cup dry white wine
¼ cup finely chopped parsley
1 tablespoon finely chopped sage
1 tablespoon finely chopped thyme
3 large eggs, beaten
3 to 4 cups of low-sodium chicken broth

Recipe Preparation

Place racks in the middle and top of the oven; preheat to 300°. Divide bread between 2 rimmed baking sheets and bake on the racks, tossing occasionally, until dried out (do not let brown more than just a bit around the edges), 25–35 minutes. Let cool and pour into a large pot.

Heat oil in a large skillet over medium-high. Cook the sausage until browned underneath, about 3 minutes. Break up into bite-size pieces with 2 spatulas or spoons and continue to cook, tossing occasionally, until cooked through, about 5 minutes longer. Transfer sausage to a plate. Make sure you get the oil as well.

Reduce heat to medium and melt one stick of butter in the same skillet. Add onion and celery; season lightly with salt and pepper. Cook, stirring occasionally, until vegetables are very tender but not browned, 12–15 minutes. Add the wine and red pepper flakes and scrape the bottom of the skillet to release any browned bits. Bring to a boil and cook until the wine has evaporated. Turn off the heat toss in parsley, sage, and thyme, and let the mixture cool in the skillet. Add this and the sausage to the bread when cool. Mix well.

Make up to this part the day before. Cover the pot with plastic wrap and put it into the fridge.

Next morning (T-Day)
Whisk eggs and 2 cups stock in a large bowl. Pour into bread, sausage, and veggie mixture and toss well to combine. Add 2 tsp salt and 1 tsp. pepper. Mix with hands well. Add remaining stock slowly until the correct consistency is reached. You will not need all of the stock. The stuffing should hold together but not be too wet. Let sit, toss occasionally, and put aside until later in the day.

Transfer the stuffing to a baking dish that has been coated with butter. Use a sheet of foil to cover the dish. Bake on the middle rack at 350 degrees until very hot throughout (it should feel too hot to comfortably touch in the center; an instant-read thermometer inserted into the center should register 160°), 35–40 minutes. Make sure it reaches 160 degrees.

Increase oven temperature to 425°. Remove the foil and transfer the baking dish to the top rack. Continue to bake the stuffing until it's golden brown, 25–30 minutes longer.

It's pretty good
I’ll have to politely disagree with the no stuffing part, but know that any of your recipes will be great. As mentioned, I use a thermometer to make sure things are the right temp, but it’s totally doable.

And to those that say that stuffing in the bird is too moist and not crispy, that’s correct. However, as tastes will vary, some people prefer the moist stuffing versus the same recipe which is cooked as a dressing and is crispy.
 
When I do a bird, it’s a duck not a turkey. So take this advice with a grain of salt. But I always do wild rice stuffing. I use uncle Ben’s wild rice mixed with regular rice. Cook it until it’s fairly firm. Let it cool and then stuff it in the bird. Then serve the rest of the rice that’s not in the bird on the side. It comes out awesome. But I don’t know how well that would work with turkey which has a lot of cavity.

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This is Thanksgiving dinner this year. Well the rest of you are whacked on tryptophan. I’m going to be alert. In case they attack.

Have an awesome Thanksgiving everyone and enjoy the weekend
 
You’re not wrong, but then neither am I despite how correct you may feel you are.
Cooking is all about personal tastes and preferences. That is why it is a great hobby. You should do what you feel works for you. I am just pointing out the risks if it isn't cooked through.

I have seen people get sick from poorly prepared dressing or stuffing. It happens. 160 degrees or higher is there for a reason.
 
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Also just made up a batch of these. They are a Texas treat called rattlesnake eggs. Basically stuffed jalapeños, stuffed with cheddar hot sauce, bacon, onion, and pickled pepper roasted and then dipped in hush puppy batter and deep fried. With garlic aïoli. I’ll reheat them tomorrow to go with dinner, but I couldn’t help myself but eat a few of this afternoon.

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Cheers!!
 
Also just made up a batch of these. They are a Texas treat called rattlesnake eggs. Basically stuffed jalapeños, stuffed with cheddar hot sauce, bacon, onion, and pickled pepper roasted and then dipped in hush puppy batter and deep fried. With garlic aïoli. I’ll reheat them tomorrow to go with dinner, but I couldn’t help myself but eat a few of this afternoon.

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Cheers!!
That looks outstanding. Do you cook the ingredients before roasting or do you combine everything and then stuff and roast?
 
Rattlesnake Eggs/Jalapeno poppers.

Slice the jalapenos in half and cut out the seeds, etc.

Then put in cooked bacon, chopped fine. And whatever other things you want. This time I used finely chopped onions and I had some pickled sweet peppers that I diced. I also added some hot sauce (that goes in the Jalapeno first.) Then cover the whole thing with a thick layer of finely-shredded cheddar (though Jack works well and is the 'traditional' Texas topping. Mozzarella works really well, too. Then bake until the cheese melts. 400 or so for about 15 minutes.

This is after baking, before battering.

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Then I let them sit in the 'fridge for a couple of days. It sort of dries them out a bit. Makes it easier to get the batter to stick. And the ingredients can blend a bit.

Once you are ready to cook.... stir up batter. I made mine from store-bought Hush Puppy mix, with seasoned Panko added. And my latest thing is "The Colonel's seasoned flour" added into the mixture. Which was an impulse purchase at the grocery store and is basically KFC ripoff. It's damn good in all kinds of things! Add water until the mixture is more runny than it would be for hush puppies. So you can dip the peppers in the batter and get a thick layer on.

Dip each popper in whisked egg. Then coat very well with hush puppy mix. Then right into 350 degree oil (I used Peanut oil in cast iron) and cook until brown. I can get 3 - 4 in the pot at a time. Flip a couple of times during cooking. Drain while removing. The batter won't stick to the pepper side all that well. But it will stick really well on the top where the cheese is.

I had leftover batter, so I 'double battered' a few and back into the pot. Those came out amazing! The double batter was awesome and crisped up the whole thing beautifully!

Eat right away while hot... Or they will keep and you can bake them to reheat. That's what most of these are for... reheating in air fryer tomorrow.

But Right out of the pot they are just amazing. I had to eat a couple this afternoon because I had to! I use various dips.... Sour cream. Garlic Aioli. Salsa or Marinara. Russian Dressing? Use your imagination. Or eat plain. But dipping them is great!

Rattlesnake eggs are totally one of my favorite appetizers!

Cheers,

Sirhr