Female USCG officer got two divers chopped up, IMO willfully, 1980s.

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Years ago when I was first working as a marine mechanic, I worked for a shop where the owners were close friends with a commercial diving business on the West Coast. The diving company was located in Sausalito, CA, which is just across the water from San Francisco.

The dive business was on a job in San Fran, cleaning the hull of a large boat or small ship. Two guys were underwater, and the owner of the company was topside keeping an eye things. An aggressive female from the USCG came aboard and told the crew to put the engines in forward. However there were signs posted all over the helm to not put the engines in gear, as there were divers working underwater. The engines may have been running to keep them warmed up.

Remember when you were young, and a supervisor or authority figure could tell you to do something that did not sound right. However, being inexperienced, you complied?

Well the bitch told a crew member to put the controls in gear, he strongly protested, but eventually did what the authority figure told him to do. The owner of the dive business felt the boat move, and he sprinted back to the helm and yanked the levers to neutral. Next he ran to the stern, and the water was full of blood. Both divers were sucked into the propellers, and cut to pieces. The divers were both friends and coworkers of his.

The USCG quickly sent attorneys to the spouses of the divers, apologized profusely I expect, and told them if the sign this agreement to keep their mouth shut, they would be given xx amount of money. The .gov was quick, to keep the story out of the press. Now I do not know if the USCG officer was a dyke or not, but judging by her actions she was a full on man hater. She knew that the divers would be killed, but this was her chance to get away with murder.

This would of been before 1990 when I worked for the yacht repair business. In current times they would most likely not be able to sweep the deaths under the rug. But back then, they did.
 
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Well without some idiot "just following orders" things would have been very different.
Stupid folks think it's all great because well just follow orders no matter what happens.
Brainwashed...

Back when men were men, somebody would have made that evil woman pay in blood...
But then again back when men were men, a woman wouldn't have been in some authority uniform...
 
Years ago when I was first working as a marine mechanic, I worked for a shop where the owners were close friends with a commercial diving business on the West Coast. The diving company was located in Sausalito, CA, which is just across the water from San Francisco.

The dive business was on a job in San Fran, cleaning the hull of a large boat or small ship. Two guys were underwater, and the owner of the company was topside keeping an eye things. An aggressive female from the USCG came aboard and told the crew to put the engines in forward. However there were signs posted all over the helm to not put the engines in gear, as there were divers working underwater. The engines may have been running to keep them warmed up.

Remember when you were young, and a supervisor or authority figure could tell you to do something that did not sound right. However, being inexperienced, you complied?

Well the bitch told a crew member to put the controls in gear, he strongly protested, but eventually did what the authority figure told him to do. The owner of the dive business felt the boat move, and he sprinted back to the helm and yanked the levers to neutral. Next he ran to the stern, and the water was full of blood. Both divers were sucked into the propellers, and cut to pieces. The divers were both friends and coworkers of his.

The Navy quickly sent attorneys to the spouses of the divers, apologized profusely I expect, and told them if the sign this agreement to keep their mouth shut, they would be given xx amount of money. The Navy was quick, to keep the story out of the press. Now I do not know if the USCG officer was a dyke or not, but judging by her actions she was a full on man hater. She knew that the divers would be killed, but this was her chance to get away with murder.

This would have been before 1990 when I worked for the yacht repair business. In current times the Navy would most likely not be able to sweep the deaths under the rug. But back then, they did.
Rarely are dangerous people actually straight up murderous. We think they are though, because most of us cannot comprehend the level is stupidity that they operate at. Either way, she ignored every rule and precaution put in place and murdered those divers. Do we have a name for her?
 
Sorry, forgot that the USCG is not a dept of the Navy. No, the story is real. I know the owner of the business, and his good friends were my bosses. The other news about the NZ lesbian captain has got me thinking about this. I almost posted the info a few weeks ago, but decided not to at the time.

Okay, removed lesbian word. However if you lived in the SF Bay Area, you would automatically think angry, aggressive lesbian.

Lots of people who were in the boat repair business at the time, both in San Fran or in Marin county, know the story. It is no secret. I left the names of the businesses out of the story for their privacy. Some have retired.
 
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Rarely are dangerous people actually straight up murderous. We think they are though, because most of us cannot comprehend the level is stupidity that they operate at. Either way, she ignored every rule and precaution put in place and murdered those divers. Do we have a name for her?
She was told there were divers cleaning the hull. Signs all over the helm. Put the gear in forward, the divers get sucked into the props. That is murder, not "a mistake". Nothing stupid about it. There is no agenda, I live in that area and there is no shortage of weird people in and around San Fran.

I was never told her name, as I mentioned this was not in the newspapers.
 
Wonder what would be the legality if the employee, upon seeing that his pleas were useless, produced a ballpeen hammer and whacked her right in the skull with one swift and full swing. There is no doubt he would be placed in cuffs by other agents and hauled into court, but he has a strong case going for him due to circumstances.

There should ALWAYS be an emergency Plan B in place, everywhere, just in case something like this happens. I know in my heart that I would have swung that hammer once my peaceful arguments failed. Nobody would even fucking see it coming. And if the cunt dies, she dies. Zero fucks would be given. Everything later will be in the hands of a jury of my peers...
 
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She was told there were divers cleaning the hull. Signs all over the helm. Put the gear in forward, the divers get sucked into the props. That is murder, not "a mistake". Nothing stupid about it. There is no agenda, I live in that area and there is no shortage of weird people in and around San Fran.

I was never told her name, as I mentioned this was not in the newspapers.
So you knew a guy who knew a guy who got his employee divers killed but said it wasn't his fault. If the story happened as you said it was 99% his fault. He should have never have put divers in the water until the engin was shut down.
 
Let see the commercial divers would have been on surface supplied air and they would have been using surface air driven rotary devices, imagine a large rotary sanding unit driven by air, barnacles are tough to grind off, they would had lines under the boat, port and starboard to hold them against the hull or some heavy electro magnets and each diver would have had several tenders on deck and one big air source for suppling air to breathe and air volume to work. Lots of spaghetti in the water and tenders for it. One tender at the helm, which would have been shutdown, to make sure no one attempted to start engines. Story is interesting but no commercial rated driver would be part of that.
 
WTF. Why must she be a lesbian, and why bring it up now???

What’s your agenda here?


Need to keep the spirit alive, the juices flowing.

She’s actually Half Latino / Iranian, and came here illegally through the Darien Gap, and grew up in crime - ridden Chicago after escaping from continuous oppression in Xinjiang, China. Received *** American *** handouts despite having a questionable to absent work history. Voted illegally for Obama.

I hope this checks enough boxes to foster the right amount of hate - for we truly are garbage.
 
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So you are a friend of the friend of the guy who owned the ship where it happened?

You didn't see it or hear about it from anyone who actually witnessed it?

One time, in a truckstop bathroom, I read a story about balls of shit. Kinda the same thing.
Balls of shit?????
And you read it in a truckstop bathroom???
Damn you live dangerously
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Wonder what would be the legality if the employee, upon seeing that his pleas were useless, produced a ballpeen hammer and whacked her right in the skull with one swift and full swing. There is no doubt he would be placed in cuffs by other agents and hauled into court, but he has a strong case going for him due to circumstances.

There should ALWAYS be an emergency Plan B in place, everywhere, just in case something like this happens. I know in my heart that I would have swung that hammer once my peaceful arguments failed. Nobody would even fucking see it coming. And if the cunt dies, she dies. Zero fucks would be given. Everything later will be in the hands of a jury of my peers...

But, you would never have to swing that hammer, because you're not an idiot. When you arrived at the job site you would have told the crew to shut down the engine so the divers can get in the water. If they did not then would have gave your divers the rest of the day off.

Anything else would be like being at a public range and going to change your target while shooters in other lanes remained behind loaded rifles.
 
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But, you would never have to swing that hammer, because you're not an idiot. When you arrived at the job site you would have told the crew to shut down the engine so the divers can get in the water. If they did not then would have gave your divers the rest of the day off.

Anything else would be like being at a public range and going to change your target while shooters in other lanes remained behind loaded rifles.
Wait......should I not be doing that?
 
Rarely are dangerous people actually straight up murderous. We think they are though, because most of us cannot comprehend the level is stupidity that they operate at. Either way, she ignored every rule and precaution put in place and murdered those divers. Do we have a name for her?
No, but she was definately a candidate for a Court Martial or the CG's equivalent.

In the civilian world she would be facing manslaughter charges x 2. The argument would be whether it was Voluntary vs. Involuntary.

The fact she knew men were working down there makes a strong case for Voluntary.
 
I do not know what they were using for air, might have been a simple system with no hard hat. I do not know if the boat was 80' or 200' long. I agree that the owner of the company should of had the engines shut down, or stayed right at the helm until the divers were done.

I believe TexPatriot is correct, this had to be voluntary. It is one of those work place accidents that you never forget.
 
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You people that think it’s old fashioned to keep women where they belong are literally against god

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). Paul describes how in the church, God assigns different roles to men and women as a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14).
 
You people that think it’s old fashioned to keep women where they belong are literally against god

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). Paul describes how in the church, God assigns different roles to men and women as a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14).

I like your swagger,
However that is a much more nuanced subject and there is a lot more involved in the actual teachings of Heavenly Father.
You'll see from how Jesus Christ actually treated and taught and told women to do things, that it's a lot different from the way many choose to understand the advice given by someone who kind of was overly steeped in being a Jewish lawyer worded things and is often misquoted and mistranslated and misunderstood.
 
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I do not know if they were using for air, might have been a simple system with no hard hat. I do not know if the boat was 80' or 200' long. I agree that the owner of the company should of had the engines shut down, or stayed right at the helm until the divers were done.

I believe TexPatriot is correct, this had to be voluntary. It is one of those work place accidents that you never forget.
They would have a simple Kirby Morgan type mask and in the bay cold water, a 3/8 nylon two sides suit with warm water supplied from the surface..
 
You people that think it’s old fashioned to keep women where they belong are literally against god

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). Paul describes how in the church, God assigns different roles to men and women as a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14).
Esther.
 
The whole story stinks. I think perhaps time has blurred the details. Either that or it's just a bull shit story.
I’ll never be one to defend some of the dumbasses we had in the USCG but this story smells like bullshit to me. Any diver with half a brain would have gotten out of the water the minute the engines fired up! When we had a dive team survey the hull of my cutter we had to secure every sea chest (water intake) so they wouldn’t try to suck a diver in, we had to take the dive team leader to every sea chest and he personally closed and tagged out the intake valves.
The divers would have known better
 
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But, you would never have to swing that hammer, because you're not an idiot. When you arrived at the job site you would have told the crew to shut down the engine so the divers can get in the water. If they did not then would have gave your divers the rest of the day off.

Anything else would be like being at a public range and going to change your target while shooters in other lanes remained behind loaded rifles.


This 1000X...

As someone who works around machinery that can instantly maim and kill with one slip up in a split second, extreme precautions are taken around them in the shop. And don't even get me started on the industrial scrap shredder. "Mr. Teethy McTeethface" will turn a bicycle straight into ribbons without even knowing it had been there, and as we do almost all of the maintenance on our equipment, lockout tags and power removal is enforced to a T. Everybody knows the process, and even if there is some antisocial fucker present who wanted to take advantage of a situation and cause harm, they wouldn't even be able to think about it because work areas are ALWAYS supervised by trusted personnel to make sure everything in the machine, around the guy(s) working on them, and in the surrounding proximity is under control.

One of the things we gunnies share to an identical level with medical professionals who truly care about making a difference, is that PREVENTION is always preferred over rectifying actions. A situation or an illness that can be prevented in the first place will mean that rectifying actions and Plan Bs will not have to be implemented.
 
Actually, I do not remember if it was the CG, or some other government agency. This was decades ago. I would expect it to be USCG, as they do inspections on commercial vessels.

Some large boats take hours to warm up, and perhaps the boat was getting ready to go out to sea that day, and were just waiting for the hull to be cleaned. The long warm up has to do with not getting the cylinder heads hot before the block is fully up to temperature. The largest boat my shop ever worked on was 156' and had large MANN engines. The crew said the engines would not start unless the engine warming system had been running for 5-6 hours, via the genset.

I can totally understand that in this instance they would be running the engines until fully up to temperature. Once out the SF gate, they may have needed nearly full power due to the typical high winds and seas most days.
 
I am thinking of writing a post called Sausalito Stories. It would be about the stolen multi million dollar yachts, the various deaths, the thieving, etc.

I would include stories about George Ballard the Marin County fence who lived on a houseboat with his sister. The thieves would bring him jewelry they stole that day, he would immediately melt down the gold and silver so it could not be traced, and he would pay the thieves in drugs not cash. He got busted a few days after a box of Snap-On tools of mine was stolen. Tools were stolen on a Friday, and on Tuesday the police came and checked on him as he was on parole and lost his 4th Amendment rights for a while. During the check they found 5 lbs. of meth, and he was out of the fencing business for a looong time.

Sausalito was a wild place for many years.
 
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I cannot believe a single Coast Guard officer (regardless whether its reproductive organs are internal or external) doesn't have a single brain cell to recognize dive operations are occurring and would order a civil ship's captain or master risk killing one of his crew or (even worse) someone else's employee executing an inherently dangerous service or inspection at anchorage / tie-down at a pier

I also fail to believe the Coast Guard (under the Department of Transportation, with Elizabeth Dole as its first female secretary under Ronald Reagan from 1983 to 1987) would send its lawyers to pay for a hush-up for two fatalities.

This not-so-sea story fails the smell test.

Name names so we can research. There should have been charges and both criminal and civil suits against the ship's master, owner, insurers, and the government.
 
I am thinking of writing a post called Sausalito Stories. It would be about the stolen multi million dollar yachts, the various deaths, the thieving, etc.

I would include stories about George Ballard the Marin County fence who lived on a houseboat with his sister. The thieves would bring him jewelry they stole that day, he would immediately melt down the gold and silver so it could not be traced, and he would pay the thieves in drugs not cash. He got busted a few days after a box of Snap-On tools of mine was stolen. Tools were stolen on a Friday, and on Tuesday the police came and checked on him as he was on parole and lost his 4th Amendment rights for a while. During the check they found 5 lbs. of meth, and he was out of the fencing business for a looong time.

Sausalito was a wild place for many years.
I don't think we need a thread of things you imagined.