Putin is a bitch

LRRPF52 · Nov 30, 2024

theLBC said:

Is BlackRock a DoD contractor?

I just looked at their holdings and saw only financial sector and venture-capitalist firms in their portfolio.

I’m no fan of them, but what is that post supposed to mean?

How do you guys filter twitter posts to know who the posters are and what motives they have?

Hecouldgoalltheway · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Is BlackRock a DoD contractor?

I just looked at their holdings and saw only financial sector and venture-capitalist firms in their portfolio.

I’m no fan of them, but what is that post supposed to mean?

How do you guys filter twitter posts to know who the posters are and what motives they have?

They own almost everything directly or indirectly. There are about 4 massive companies that own millions of subsidiary companies. They probably own 70% of the businesses in America that employ over 500 employees. They also own about 10% of the residential property in America, and potentially double that.

LRRPF52 · Nov 30, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
They own almost everything directly or indirectly. There are about 4 massive companies that own millions of subsidiary companies. They probably own 70% of the businesses in America that employ over 500 employees. They also own about 10% of the residential property in America, and potentially double that.

The post made it sound like they were a defense contractor or own defense contractors.

Like I said, without Ukraine even taken into consideration, every major US DoD contractor is back-ordered on their lists of primary and secondary weapons programs, and a ton of it is Foreign Military Sales because so many nations neglected their defense modernization and force size budgets.

Ukraine is mostly getting Old Stock scheduled for de-miling, to include older systems that were sold to or made in Europe decades ago.

If Ukraine was being supplied like an ally with numbers and quality, the war would have been over for Russia long ago.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
The post made it sound like they were a defense contractor or own defense contractors.

Like I said, without Ukraine even taken into consideration, every major US DoD contractor is back-ordered on their lists of primary and secondary weapons programs, and a ton of it is Foreign Military Sales because so many nations neglected their defense modernization and force size budgets.

Ukraine is mostly getting Old Stock scheduled for de-miling, to include older systems that were sold to or made in Europe decades ago.

If Ukraine was being supplied like an ally with numbers and quality, the war would have been over for Russia long ago.

Hold on..

Wait..

Gimme a minute.....

You just said that if there Ukraine had better weapons they would have defeated Russia long ago.

Jesus dude.

DarnYankeeUSMC · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
The post made it sound like they were a defense contractor or own defense contractors.

Like I said, without Ukraine even taken into consideration, every major US DoD contractor is back-ordered on their lists of primary and secondary weapons programs, and a ton of it is Foreign Military Sales because so many nations neglected their defense modernization and force size budgets.

Ukraine is mostly getting Old Stock scheduled for de-miling, to include older systems that were sold to or made in Europe decades ago.

If Ukraine was being supplied like an ally with numbers and quality, the war would have been over for Russia long ago.

And USA "contractors" to operate the systems.

LRRPF52 · Nov 30, 2024

Uh, more quantity of modern weapons. Russia started out with strategic encirclement with no way to lose, and still got their face curb-checked repeatedly for almost 3 years now. That was with very limited, trickling-in support sent to Ukraine.

Had Ukraine been equipped with modern IADS, ISR, precision-guided weapons, anti-ship, and even half of what they wanted (denied by multiple White Houses), Putin wouldn’t have even invaded and would have been forced to lean on the puppet installation, election-rigging methods he did to get Yanukovych in Kiev.

I’ve been monitoring this whole thing from way before anyone was really paying attention outside of the interested parties, just waiting for 2014 to happen.

LRRPF52 · Nov 30, 2024

This is one of those topics that illustrates low investment people with really highly-invested opinions.

They see some posts on twitter with one of those retard reaction faces, and in the vacuum of reliable media, just go with that.

So easy to manipulate, when they don’t even know the geography or history of the region, to include recent presidents and major events.

But they sure know everything about what’s going on now, and how we should respond.

Like someone telling you how to build a house, can’t drive a nail.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Uh, more quantity of modern weapons. Russia started out with strategic encirclement with no way to lose, and still got their face curb-checked repeatedly for almost 3 years now. That was with very limited, trickling-in support sent to Ukraine.

Had Ukraine been equipped with modern IADS, ISR, precision-guided weapons, anti-ship, and even half of what they wanted (denied by multiple White Houses), Putin wouldn’t have even invaded and would have been forced to lean on the puppet installation, election-rigging methods he did to get Yanukovych in Kiev.

I’ve been monitoring this whole thing from way before anyone was really paying attention outside of the interested parties, just waiting for 2014 to happen.

Russia is doing nothing more than applying pressure to the Ukraine. They are dancing the line of keeping them from functioning and a full attack. They could destroy the ukraine in a few hours if they wanted to. They don't want to give anyone else a reason to intervene. Putin is literally trying to avoid WW3

GreenGO Juan · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
This is one of those topics that illustrates low investment people with really highly-invested opinions.

They see some posts on twister with one of those retard reaction faces, and in the vacuum of reliable media, just go with that.

So easy to manipulate, when they don’t even know the geography or history of the region, to include recent presidents and major events.

But they sure know everything about what’s going on now, and how we should respond.

Like someone telling you how to build a house, can’t drive a nail.

Weren’t you born in Eastern Europe?

Would explain your position… and motivations.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Nov 30, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
If Ukraine was being supplied like an ally with numbers and quality, the war would have been over for Russia long ago.

I want to re-visit this comment again after giving it some thought.

You propose that the Ukraine would have defeated Russia by now if we gave them more money.

If we gave them no money, it wouldnt have even started. There would have been some border skirmishes and that midget faggot Zalinsky would have been forced to negotiate from his pathetic insignificant position of weakness, and there would have been arrangements made, deals brokered, whatever, and none of it would have been any of our business at all, and America would be literally hundreds of billions of dollars better off.

We have prolonged the suffering, the dying, and the hemorrhaging of our own money (that we don't have) for what will inevitably be a deal that Zalensky will lose in. Trump is not going to back that dipshit in any way. He's going to cut the money off and tell him that he better make the best deal he can. I hope the mothers of the dead soldiers storm his office and rip him to pieces with their bare hands. Fuck him.

375fan · Nov 30, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
If we gave them no money, it wouldnt have even started. There would have been some border skirmishes and that midget faggot Zalinsky would have been forced to negotiate from his pathetic insignificant position of weakness, and there would have been arrangements made, deals brokered, whatever, and none of it would have been any of our business at all, and America would be literally hundreds of billions of dollars better off.

We have prolonged the suffering, the dying, and the hemorrhaging of our own money (that we don't have) for what will inevitably be a deal that Zalensky will lose in. Trump is not going to back that dipshit in any way. He's going to cut the money off and tell him that he better make the best deal he can. I hope the mothers of the dead soldiers storm his office and rip him to pieces with their bare hands. Fuck him.

Exactly, excellent summation.
Doesn't matter how much the US or NATO allies give Ukraine, no way would they win.

LRRPF52 · Dec 2, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Russia is doing nothing more than applying pressure to the Ukraine. They are dancing the line of keeping them from functioning and a full attack. They could destroy the ukraine in a few hours if they wanted to. They don't want to give anyone else a reason to intervene. Putin is literally trying to avoid WW3

You see this repeated a lot by the likes of Col MacGreggor, but his assessments of the war have been erroneous every month since 2022 when he started making them. Literally every proclamation he has stated turned out to be opposite of ground truth.

The stuff he has said about US domestic politics is far more accurate. His foreign policy ideas are painful to listen to.

LRRPF52 · Dec 2, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
I want to re-visit this comment again after giving it some thought.

You propose that the Ukraine would have defeated Russia by now if we gave them more money.

If we gave them no money, it wouldnt have even started. There would have been some border skirmishes and that midget faggot Zalinsky would have been forced to negotiate from his pathetic insignificant position of weakness, and there would have been arrangements made, deals brokered, whatever, and none of it would have been any of our business at all, and America would be literally hundreds of billions of dollars better off.

We have prolonged the suffering, the dying, and the hemorrhaging of our own money (that we don't have) for what will inevitably be a deal that Zalensky will lose in. Trump is not going to back that dipshit in any way. He's going to cut the money off and tell him that he better make the best deal he can. I hope the mothers of the dead soldiers storm his office and rip him to pieces with their bare hands. Fuck him.

No, I’m saying had we continued the Trump foreign policy with providing them advanced weapons (that they paid for), and continued to warn Putin not to eff around there, he would have remained the bitch that he is and kept his mongo-slav forces in Russia, while trying to scheme asymmetric actions until another Democratic Socialist of America candidate would be installed in the WH in 2024, assuming they could counter Trump’s VP.

When Putin got another puppet in the White House in 2020 who has been on Russian payroll for decades back to no later than 1972, Putin not only had freedom of maneuver, but a US President doing his bidding by offering Zelensky a ride out of Kiev.

Zelensky threw a wrench in their plans by staying and acting as a medium to negotiate continued delivery of weapons, after Europe saw that Putin’s army seized defeat from the jaws of victory. Notice that the Europeans sat idly waiting to see the inevitable happen in the early days of 2022, then once the Russian Army’s profane incompetence was on full display, the Euros at least felt they could delay the inevitable to buy themselves some time before the Russian Army ended up on the border of Poland and Romania.

Look at other presidents who have taken the easy route and fled their countries. Zelensky had a lot of sack to stay and fight. Can’t say as much for many other leaders in the last 70 years.

LRRPF52 · Dec 2, 2024

375fan said:
Exactly, excellent summation.
Doesn't matter how much the US or NATO allies give Ukraine, no way would they win.

Imagine the Battle of Khasham of 2018 at-scale. Russian forces are easy to curb-check. Their strategy is to throw bodies at a problem until there aren’t enough enemy weapons and munitions for their soldiers to absorb.

Modern systems leverage precision to cut off logistics and critical combat nodes so that such a strategy no longer works. They still haven’t woken up to that reality, no matter how many times they eat JDAMs, SDBs, Copperhead Artillery, M777, HIMARS, and ATACMs.

Biden WH and Europe have been handicapping Ukraine for different reasons, with a combination of Russian moles woven throughout the WH, DoD, NATO HQ, and Euro parliaments, as well as navel-gazers who use the excuse of possible escalation to deter governments from sending the appropriate material to stop the invasion.

Redlion · Dec 6, 2024

Putin and Russia are based on this.

Russia Designates the US-Based Satanic Temple as an Undesirable Organization, Blasphemous of Traditional Religion

“The Russian authorities claimed that the organization ‘promotes occult ideologies [and] uses Satanic imagery to discredit traditional spiritual-ethical values’. The Satanic Temple, which allegedly enjoys US government support, also justifies violence and ‘actively backs members of extremist and terrorist movements’, the prosecutor general’s office explained.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/ban-devil-russia-designates-us-based-satanic-temple/

mosin46 · Dec 6, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Imagine the Battle of Khasham of 2018 at-scale. Russian forces are easy to curb-check. Their strategy is to throw bodies at a problem until there aren’t enough enemy weapons and munitions for their soldiers to absorb.

Modern systems leverage precision to cut off logistics and critical combat nodes so that such a strategy no longer works. They still haven’t woken up to that reality, no matter how many times they eat JDAMs, SDBs, Copperhead Artillery, M777, HIMARS, and ATACMs.

Biden WH and Europe have been handicapping Ukraine for different reasons, with a combination of Russian moles woven throughout the WH, DoD, NATO HQ, and Euro parliaments, as well as navel-gazers who use the excuse of possible escalation to deter governments from sending the appropriate material to stop the invasion.

all this bad ass US vs russia we can kick their ass talk? WTF? why would we even be interested in putin's invasion of ukraine? ie except to protect biden corruption and aid black rock in acquiring it's resources? yea putin is a corrupt brutal dictator. so what? the list of those we have installed and supported is a longish one. we have no reason to confront russia in europe or asia. western hemisphere a separate issue and we look to be losing that one. africa,ME are also separate issues were we look to be sucking hind tit. agree the kgb and now fsb have been running our incompetent cia/fbi around in circles since ww2. that is on us since we let it happen with a whole bunch of sympathetic fellow travelers.
if you have sons or gr.sons are you ok with sending them off to die or be maimed to keep russia out of the congo,or holland or indonesia or venezuela,for that matter? or,maybe get in a nuc exchange and kill 6-7 billion to stop him and protect our good friend zelinsky? gotta bring democracy to the unwashed as well ya know. real 30-40% inflation here is real and that is just 1st problem. we need to fix america and stop funding this imperial nation building shit. we have a dept of "defense" not a dept of imperial conquest. this ain't rome. we need real defense not the illusion that the ability to depopulate the planet with all the toys is defense.

Darayavaus · Dec 6, 2024

akmike47 said:
the ones you’d want repopulating the earth are far out numbered by the low IQ retards. We would become a special needs fudd planet

Darayavaus · Dec 6, 2024

interesting book. Thinking people should read it, and American conservatives would agree. globalists hate the guy. He is one of Putin's philosophical Pan Slavism advisors. Our CIA murdered his daughter with a car bomb.

LRRPF52 · Dec 7, 2024

Redlion said:
Putin and Russia are based on this.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/ban-devil-russia-designates-us-based-satanic-temple/

The Russian Orthodox Church became corrupted centuries ago. It’s why there’s such a thing as the Old Believers, who date back to the 1600s. Peter made the Orthodox Church a functionary of the Tsarist state in 1721.

The real satanic Bolshevik Marxists wanted to totally eliminate the Russian Orthodox Church, but used its remnants as part of the security apparatus for the Cheka and NKVD, followed by KGB doing the same thing.

Putin used his fake embracing of Russian Orthodoxy as a means to unify the people under a common ideology, once the Soviet Union collapsed and the free-fall of the Yeltsin years.

These stories you linked are meant to appeal to Western readers as a form of propaganda, especially Christians, who will be demoralized against their own government. Our government provides all the demoralization we need without any help from weak, Russian propaganda.

LRRPF52 · Dec 7, 2024

mosin46 said:
all this bad ass US vs russia we can kick their ass talk? WTF? why would we even be interested in putin's invasion of ukraine? ie except to protect biden corruption and aid black rock in acquiring it's resources? yea putin is a corrupt brutal dictator. so what? the list of those we have installed and supported is a longish one. we have no reason to confront russia in europe or asia. western hemisphere a separate issue and we look to be losing that one. africa,ME are also separate issues were we look to be sucking hind tit. agree the kgb and now fsb have been running our incompetent cia/fbi around in circles since ww2. that is on us since we let it happen with a whole bunch of sympathetic fellow travelers.
if you have sons or gr.sons are you ok with sending them off to die or be maimed to keep russia out of the congo,or holland or indonesia or venezuela,for that matter? or,maybe get in a nuc exchange and kill 6-7 billion to stop him and protect our good friend zelinsky? gotta bring democracy to the unwashed as well ya know. real 30-40% inflation here is real and that is just 1st problem. we need to fix america and stop funding this imperial nation building shit. we have a dept of "defense" not a dept of imperial conquest. this ain't rome. we need real defense not the illusion that the ability to depopulate the planet with all the toys is defense.

The things I’m talking about would prevent Russian from invading, not lead to conflict. They also wound’t involve US forces. I’m talking about the 2017-2021 Trump approach to Ukraine, where Putin didn’t dare invade.

Ukraine already had democratic elections and was one of the only nations in the post-Soviet era who truly wanted and embraced those principles. Africa and the ME don’t generally jive well with elections, input from the people, or anything we’re used to in enlightened republics.

Imperial conquest involves colonizing the conquered nations. The US doesn’t do this. Any time you see statements about colonial US, realize you’re being misled or lied to by someone who thinks in those terms. If the US was a colonial power who went around with adventurist territorial expansion, we would be feared and not crossed by all the pissant teapot dictators.

Since the US is so connected with Europe, we do have a very critical interest in protecting Europe from Russia. Once Putin got his geriatric pedophile Komprat Biden in the WH, he had free reign to do what he wanted, and still couldn’t pull it off, so now he has to live with the consequences.

One thing Putin can’t afford to have happen is a US President like Trump come in and dictate to him any terms of the ceasefire and temporary peace in Ukraine. Americans don’t understand this because we have the luxury of isolation and living in a fairytale economy that isn’t a thing anywhere else, with a political system that has peacefully transferred power to the new leader for most of the past 250 years (minus JFK to LBJ). In the Soviet times, the Premier would go to the dacha with senior party members and “not wake up from his nap”, then the new leader would emerge.

Putin pulled off the peaceful transfer of power with Yeltsin behind the scenes, as it was set up by the oligarchs. He then replaced the oligarchs with a new generation of oligarchs loyal to him to maintain power, and installed a puppet when he hit term limits with Medvedev. Everyone in Russia, even though they aren’t political, knew Medvedev was a puppet and Putin was pulling the strings.

The problem is, Putin might be a more reasonable president than his successor.

Darayavaus · Dec 7, 2024

hello Victoria Nuland.

mosin46 · Dec 7, 2024

sounds a a nuland post.
where and in what way is it important for us to protect europe from putin? did that x 2 re germany. how did that work out? we got to rebuild it and spend about 44 years protecting them from the bear-FOR FREE. they contribute like 5% gnp to their own protection.
i hear blather about we export to them. who cares? if they paid for their own defense,they would be buying much less from us except weapons,maybe.
i have never heard a single reason why we should protect europe from anything. it is and will become a muslim/african shit hole. are you saying we should protect their " democracy" voluntarily from the evil that they let in voluntarily. souinds like the standard neocon bullshit that cost us about
10K lives and billions of $ in mid east starting with bush neocon #2. a shinning light on the hill that nobody over there wanted and fought us tooth and nail for 20 years over.
you say likely putin played around with elections in ukraine. ok. if so,WHO cares? where is the threat to our national interest? doesn't exist. ie except that the profits and power of our elites might be threatened. OH DEAR!!!
maybe we should start 20-30 more wars in places where "democracy" is threatened . asia,africa,latin america got a bunch of possibilities.
OK,we don't colonize per se. we just overthrow governments,sanction or invade to get them to do what we want. usually install cooperative locals as over lords and let them share the spoils with our corps.
i am not being misled or lied to by anyone but the corp,mic neocons that you seem to love.
yea,our life style and what we have done to get/keep it is problematic.
at least you realize that biden is a senile,corrupt pedo controlled by black rock,vanguard,obama,gates,MIC x 3,china,maybe putin-pick a few.
finally,how is paying ukrainian bureaucracy's salaries and pensions protect their and europe's precious democracies or ours?

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 7, 2024

mosin46 said:
sounds a a nuland post.
where and in what way is it important for us to protect europe from putin? did that x 2 re germany. how did that work out? we got to rebuild it and spend about 44 years protecting them from the bear-FOR FREE. they contribute like 5% gnp to their own protection.
i hear blather about we export to them. who cares? if they paid for their own defense,they would be buying much less from us except weapons,maybe.
i have never heard a single reason why we should protect europe from anything. it is and will become a muslim/african shit hole. are you saying we should protect their " democracy" voluntarily from the evil that they let in voluntarily. souinds like the standard neocon bullshit that cost us about
10K lives and billions of $ in mid east starting with bush neocon #2. a shinning light on the hill that nobody over there wanted and fought us tooth and nail for 20 years over.
you say likely putin played around with elections in ukraine. ok. if so,WHO cares? where is the threat to our national interest? doesn't exist. ie except that the profits and power of our elites might be threatened. OH DEAR!!!
maybe we should start 20-30 more wars in places where "democracy" is threatened . asia,africa,latin america got a bunch of possibilities.
OK,we don't colonize per se. we just overthrow governments,sanction or invade to get them to do what we want. usually install cooperative locals as over lords and let them share the spoils with our corps.
i am not being misled or lied to by anyone but the corp,mic neocons that you seem to love.
yea,our life style and what we have done to get/keep it is problematic.
at least you realize that biden is a senile,corrupt pedo controlled by black rock,vanguard,obama,gates,MIC x 3,china,maybe putin-pick a few.
finally,how is paying ukrainian bureaucracy's salaries and pensions protect their and europe's precious democracies or ours?

Thanks, I've run out of ways to tell him that we don't give a fuck. He keeps coming back in with more irrelevant shit that does absolutely nothing to change anyone's mind.

We the people are fucking done paying for the bullshit. Fuck everyone not standing in the USA, or wearing a US flag on their shoulder. I don't know how to be any clearer. We don't care how we got here, we just want it to stop, yesterday. They could rape Zalensky to death on live television and nuke the Ukraine, and I wouldn't volunteer the change in my couch to stop it. Fuck all of them..

NoDopes · Dec 8, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
They could rape Zalensky to death on live television

Id actually pay to see that.

GreenGO Juan · Dec 8, 2024

I wouldn’t even pay to see Zelenskyy raped to death.

Not another cent for that kleptocracy

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

mosin46 said:
sounds a a nuland post.
where and in what way is it important for us to protect europe from putin? did that x 2 re germany. how did that work out? we got to rebuild it and spend about 44 years protecting them from the bear-FOR FREE. they contribute like 5% gnp to their own protection.
i hear blather about we export to them. who cares? if they paid for their own defense,they would be buying much less from us except weapons,maybe.
i have never heard a single reason why we should protect europe from anything. it is and will become a muslim/african shit hole. are you saying we should protect their " democracy" voluntarily from the evil that they let in voluntarily. souinds like the standard neocon bullshit that cost us about
10K lives and billions of $ in mid east starting with bush neocon #2. a shinning light on the hill that nobody over there wanted and fought us tooth and nail for 20 years over.
you say likely putin played around with elections in ukraine. ok. if so,WHO cares? where is the threat to our national interest? doesn't exist. ie except that the profits and power of our elites might be threatened. OH DEAR!!!
maybe we should start 20-30 more wars in places where "democracy" is threatened . asia,africa,latin america got a bunch of possibilities.
OK,we don't colonize per se. we just overthrow governments,sanction or invade to get them to do what we want. usually install cooperative locals as over lords and let them share the spoils with our corps.
i am not being misled or lied to by anyone but the corp,mic neocons that you seem to love.
yea,our life style and what we have done to get/keep it is problematic.
at least you realize that biden is a senile,corrupt pedo controlled by black rock,vanguard,obama,gates,MIC x 3,china,maybe putin-pick a few.
finally,how is paying ukrainian bureaucracy's salaries and pensions protect their and europe's precious democracies or ours?

I’m not talking about starting wars or sending US soldiers to do any of this. You’re trying to fit what I’m saying into some twitter pigeonhole that simply doesn’t exist. There isn’t an easy, low-information voter answer, other than the Trump policy from 2017-2021 which Americans are totally unaware of. Hardly anyone even is aware that Trump is the only US President to sell hundreds of millions worth of weapons to Ukraine, starting in March of 2018, right after he hog-raped Wagner and the Syrians at the Battle of Khasham in Feb 2018.

I already called out the Bush family for being traitors to the US, clearly on Chinese payroll dating back farther than anyone has even considered. Neil Bush is the Hunter Biden of the Bush family. Look at his merger of their US Aerospace & Defense holdings with his Chinese shell company listed in the real estate sector.

For Europe, we already established that it’s in the US interests to maintain strong trade relationships with our biggest partners. We can continue to withdraw forces from Europe as we have done since 1991, and supply FMS. It doesn’t require any crazy deployments, force commitments, or anything of that nature. They have been forced to wake up to the threats to their security, and are now knee-jerking into trying to finally address it with their budgets and defense-spending, as well as electing more nationalists into parliaments and presidencies.

Biden has been an enemy of the US MIC his entire career. The Soviets literally financed his campaigns to make him so, because they knew that half-retarded pedophiles are cheaper to bribe than competent people like the Bushes and Clintons. Remember Clintons took $363 million from Putin, whereas Biden has some nice homes and a red Corvette.

Junior FBI agents have been wanting to prosecute the Clinton Foundation for decades now, and are always told to forget about it.

The chessboard a lot of you are looking at is missing most of the sections, and most of the pieces.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Thanks, I've run out of ways to tell him that we don't give a fuck. He keeps coming back in with more irrelevant shit that does absolutely nothing to change anyone's mind.

We the people are fucking done paying for the bullshit. Fuck everyone not standing in the USA, or wearing a US flag on their shoulder. I don't know how to be any clearer. We don't care how we got here, we just want it to stop, yesterday. They could rape Zalensky to death on live television and nuke the Ukraine, and I wouldn't volunteer the change in my couch to stop it. Fuck all of them..

This is a perfect example of the product of Demoralization stage of ideological warfare.

If Putin can get enough people to just throw their hands up and not care about it, that’s at least a step in the direction he wants.

It’s too complicated to figure out, so just quit and go back to watching TV on the couch.

Demoralization ("We can’t fight this type of enemy so why try. Out own system is full of faults so we are the bad guys. Hey, maybe our enemies are the good guys?”)

Destabilization: Plant and bribe as many moles within the targeted nation as possible. Turn the institutions against the innocent people. Release violent and insane prisoners, while imprisoning patriots and the innocent. Have the military spend money and effort on wasteful things, while ignoring and neglecting war-fighting capacity.

Crisis: Once this all boils to a point, kick off a crisis with black swan events to shake the system, while providing solutions of Marxism-Leninism.

Normalization: With enough useful idiots seeded and planted throughout the institutions, once they have reached a critical mass, they naturally rise to power after or during the crises.

You aren’t “we the people” when you’ve been played as useful idiots under this ideological warfare model.

That’s the Russian side of the threat.

Now look at the Chicom side of the threat. They want to colonize us, totally different ballgame. They just flat-out compromise and bribe the people in power at every step of the way, like Neil Bush, Diane Feinstein, Mitch McConnell, the Bidens, mayors, university deans, corporations, States, mining operations, contractors, doesn’t matter.

What you’re advocating basically hands over the strategic geographic vectors of the logistics chains to our enemies for future, full-scale operations. With the right government, they will be welcomed in, like is happening with Biden’s border policy right now.

This isn’t something you can simply opt out of. Our children and grandchildren are going to inherit what we leave for them.

W54/XM-388 · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
This is a perfect example of the product of Demoralization stage of ideological warfare.

If Putin can get enough people to just throw their hands up and not care about it, that’s at least a step in the direction he wants.

It’s too complicated to figure out, so just quit and go back to watching TV on the couch.

Demoralization ("We can’t fight this type of enemy so why try. Out own system is full of faults so we are the bad guys. Hey, maybe our enemies are the good guys?”)

Destabilization: Plant and bribe as many moles within the targeted nation as possible. Turn the institutions against the innocent people. Release violent and insane prisoners, while imprisoning patriots and the innocent. Have the military spend money and effort on wasteful things, while ignoring and neglecting war-fighting capacity.

Crisis: Once this all boils to a point, kick off a crisis with black swan events to shake the system, while providing solutions of Marxism-Leninism.

Normalization: With enough useful idiots seeded and planted throughout the institutions, once they have reached a critical mass, they naturally rise to power after or during the crises.

You aren’t “we the people” when you’ve been played as useful idiots under this ideological warfare model.

That’s the Russian side of the threat.

Now look at the Chicom side of the threat. They want to colonize us, totally different ballgame. They just flat-out compromise and bribe the people in power at every step of the way, like Neil Bush, Diane Feinstein, Mitch McConnell, the Bidens, mayors, university deans, corporations, States, mining operations, contractors, doesn’t matter.

What you’re advocating basically hands over the strategic geographic vectors of the logistics chains to our enemies for future, full-scale operations. With the right government, they will be welcomed in, like is happening with Biden’s border policy right now.

This isn’t something you can simply opt out of. Our children and grandchildren are going to inherit what we leave for them.

Meanwhile:

Perhaps might you consider that our government top to bottom and our Military industrial complex and our warmongers just simply love to have as much war as possible and kill as many people as possible because why not?

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

W54/XM-388 said:
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Perhaps might you consider that our government top to bottom and our Military industrial complex and our warmongers just simply love to have as much war as possible and kill as many people as possible because why not?

If that were true, we would just nuke the hell out of everyone for GP and demand the obligatory “we don’t annihilate you” tax on other nations. Imagine an actual US military guilty of what the Russians have accused us of let loose with no ROE. It would be brutal, the likes of which the planet has never seen in recorded history.

Remember, the CIA was packed with hundreds of Soviet moles before it even existed, from the OSS days of Belorussian and Nazi double agents, led by naive Skull & Bones faggot Yale upper classmen, with a bunch of Mafia hitmen for clandestine operations whacking HVTs in Europe.

CIA operations in Syria were initiated by Comrade Hussein Obama if you recall. The Soviets literally spawned him from his whore mother’s womb, whether your believe the official story of the Kenyan communist student in Hawaii, or the Frank Marshall Davis Black Bolshevik theory for his origins.

Notice what Obama did the Middle East? The Arab Spring of massive destabilization in-favor of Russian defense contracts. We even handed Egypt over to the Russians for a while, and Egypt started ordering Russian Sukhoi Su-35Es. Egypt had been a solid US customer for decades buying F-16s and other major FMS packages. Remember Mubarak and the Muslim Brotherhood?

Remember the US Consulate in Benghazi (Libya), which exposed the Hillary lies and emails with her treason against the US?

And speaking of Obama, who was it that told David Cameron to release Russian separatist Zlochevsky’s laundered money through Burisma? Who punked the pederastic inbred retard Biden family for millions, while Hunter couldn’t even afford to pay his alimony?

A lot of you guys have been played and don’t even see it.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
This is a perfect example of the product of Demoralization stage of ideological warfare.

If Putin can get enough people to just throw their hands up and not care about it, that’s at least a step in the direction he wants.

It’s too complicated to figure out, so just quit and go back to watching TV on the couch.

Demoralization ("We can’t fight this type of enemy so why try. Out own system is full of faults so we are the bad guys. Hey, maybe our enemies are the good guys?”)

Destabilization: Plant and bribe as many moles within the targeted nation as possible. Turn the institutions against the innocent people. Release violent and insane prisoners, while imprisoning patriots and the innocent. Have the military spend money and effort on wasteful things, while ignoring and neglecting war-fighting capacity.

Crisis: Once this all boils to a point, kick off a crisis with black swan events to shake the system, while providing solutions of Marxism-Leninism.

Normalization: With enough useful idiots seeded and planted throughout the institutions, once they have reached a critical mass, they naturally rise to power after or during the crises.

You aren’t “we the people” when you’ve been played as useful idiots under this ideological warfare model.

That’s the Russian side of the threat.

Now look at the Chicom side of the threat. They want to colonize us, totally different ballgame. They just flat-out compromise and bribe the people in power at every step of the way, like Neil Bush, Diane Feinstein, Mitch McConnell, the Bidens, mayors, university deans, corporations, States, mining operations, contractors, doesn’t matter.

What you’re advocating basically hands over the strategic geographic vectors of the logistics chains to our enemies for future, full-scale operations. With the right government, they will be welcomed in, like is happening with Biden’s border policy right now.

This isn’t something you can simply opt out of. Our children and grandchildren are going to inherit what we leave for them.

Thanks for writing a whole bunch of stuff I don't care about.

Answer these questions for me:

1. Would we (America) be better off if we hadn't gotten involved in any of the conflicts we were involved in after WW2?
2. Has any country we've attempted to save from communism or grant democracy been better off than they were before we got involved?
3. Has the sacrifice of millions of lives and Trillions of dollars in the above aforementioned timeline made America a better place? Has it made anywhere on earth a better place?
4. Can you name a single country, post ww2 that received a net benefit from American intervention? Any country? I'll wait.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Thanks for writing a whole bunch of stuff I don't care about.

Answer these questions for me:

1. Would we (America) be better off if we hadn't gotten involved in any of the conflicts we were involved in after WW2?
2. Has any country we've attempted to save from communism or grant democracy been better off than they were before we got involved?
3. Has the sacrifice of millions of lives and Trillions of dollars in the above aforementioned timeline made America a better place? Has it made anywhere on earth a better place?
4. Can you name a single country, post ww2 that received a net benefit from American intervention? Any country? I'll wait.

1. We would have been better off not getting involved in several conflicts, but not all. The premise of the question is that I’m an advocate for conflict. False premise

2. Yes. South Korea, El Salvador, and Columbia for starters.

3. Yes, our actions are mixed, not all bad, not all good. It takes effort to become informed on these things, not black and white answers that fit into a low-information twitter post.

4. Every single country that got into the Bretton Woods trade scheme grew dramatically and in ways that were unimaginable, with significant improvements in infrastructure, education, industry, defense, etc.

Study more. This is all basic history.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
1. We would have been better off not getting involved in several conflicts, but not all. The premise of the question is that I’m an advocate for conflict. False premise

2. Yes. South Korea, El Salvador, and Columbia for starters.

3. Yes, our actions are mixed, not all bad, not all good. It takes effort to become informed on these things, not black and white answers that fit into a low-information twitter post.

4. Every single country that got into the Bretton Woods trade scheme grew dramatically and in ways that were unimaginable, with significant improvements in infrastructure, education, industry, defense, etc.

Study more. This is all basic history.

Mmmk, thanks for your continued assumptions about my level of education.

Last question, I swear:

How long were you or have you been an employee of the federal government or it's subsidiaries?

mosin46 · Dec 9, 2024

el salvador is better off today as the results of the actions of it's current president,so korea? ok we did save them from communist attack,prob kuwait a +. columbia? are you shitting me? nothing we have done there has has anything but - effects on it.
now how about iraq,egypt,libyia,syria,the balkans,chile,congo,iran? mexico,china,panama worth a thought. what does our gov worker have to say about these?

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Mmmk, thanks for your continued assumptions about my level of education.

Last question, I swear:

How long were you or have you been an employee of the federal government or it's subsidiaries?

If your education level is not up to par on any of this, own that and fix it.

I haven’t been employed by DoD or any subsidiaries since 2003.

Once again, trying to make me fit into a twitter information pigeonhole simply doesn’t work.

Notice that nobody with any voice in DoD is competent to even know the Trump-era FMS to Ukraine.

You hear nothing about it. Zilch

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
If your education level is not up to par on any of this, own that and fix it.

I haven’t been employed by DoD or any subsidiaries since 2003.

Once again, trying to make me fit into a twitter information pigeonhole simply doesn’t work.

Notice that nobody with any voice in DoD is competent to even know the Trump-era FMS to Ukraine.

You hear nothing about it. Zilch

You tnink it's a lack of knowledge. It's lack of interest. We don't care.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

mosin46 said:
el salvador is better off today as the results of the actions of it's current president,so korea? ok we did save them from communist attack,prob kuwait a +. columbia? are you shitting me? nothing we have done there has has anything but - effects on it.
now how about iraq,egypt,libyia,syria,the balkans,chile,congo,iran? mexico,china,panama worth a thought. what does our gov worker have to say about these?

The Soviets installed a puppet government and build a giant airstrip in Nicaragua in the 1980s so they could funnel in more war material into the US’s backyard and extend their influence out of Cuba. They were training, funding, and equipping the FMLN to overthrow the El Salvadoran government and we helped stop them.

I’m not talking about any changes their current democratically-elected President has made. With the Soviets, they would have lost that luxury had we not put a stop to them.

Columbia was under a similar revolutionary insurgent movement funded and trained by the Soviets and planned by Comintern. That eventually became the FARC. The US helped Columbia crush the FARC over many decades.

This whole "US bad” schtick has got to have some well-informed pushback against young guys who were raised by single Karen moms, and subjected to conformity by feminist teachers in public school.

You need a re-education if you are going to understand the world, otherwise don’t comment on thing you don’t know.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
You tnink it's a lack of knowledge. It's lack of interest. We don't care.

Who is we? Responsible US citizens need to be making well-informed decisions moving forward.

Geopolitically-illiterates need not comment, as their opinions are invalid by default.

The left is already an enemy within who bought all the Soviet propaganda their teachers and professors fed them, so we don’t need any more people swallowing that slop.

You have to become informed if you want your posterity to have a chance.

If you don’t have kids, then you have no skin in the game, so no need to comment anyway.

theLBC · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
The Soviets installed a puppet government and build a giant airstrip in Nicaragua in the 1980s so they could funnel in more war material into the US’s backyard and extend their influence out of Cuba. They were training, funding, and equipping the FMLN to overthrow the El Salvadoran government and we helped stop them.

I’m not talking about any changes their current democratically-elected President has made. With the Soviets, they would have lost that luxury had we not put a stop to them.

Columbia was under a similar revolutionary insurgent movement funded and trained by the Soviets and planned by Comintern. That eventually became the FARC. The US helped Columbia crush the FARC over many decades.

This whole "US bad” schtick has got to have some well-informed pushback against young guys who were raised by single Karen moms, and subjected to conformity by feminist teachers in public school.

You need a re-education if you are going to understand the world, otherwise don’t comment on thing you don’t know.

we installed the shah of iran to counter iraq, and when that went south, we installed saddam to counter iran.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Who is we? Responsible US citizens need to be making well-informed decisions moving forward.

Geopolitically-illiterates need not comment, as their opinions are invalid by default.

The left is already an enemy within who bought all the Soviet propaganda their teachers and professors fed them, so we don’t need any more people swallowing that slop.

You have to become informed if you want your posterity to have a chance.

If you don’t have kids, then you have no skin in the game, so no need to comment anyway.

Ive got all kinds of kids, and for their sake, I don't want....America doesn't want our fucking money being wasted meddling in the rest of the world's bullshit.

The Ukrainian shit show has about a 22% approval rating, and those people are all Biden supporting fags, so the "We" is damn near every one of us.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Ive got all kinds of kids, and for their sake, I don't want....America doesn't want our fucking money being wasted meddling in the rest of the world's bullshit.

The Ukrainian shit show has about a 22% approval rating, and those people are all Biden supporting fags, so the "We" is damn near every one of us.

Which is why I’m talking about the proven Trump policy that already worked.

You keep assuming I want war in Ukraine, when deterrence made it something Putin couldn’t stomach when facing a real leader like Trump.

That’s the kind of policy that makes sense and keeps little fags like Putin cowering in his palace near Sochi, or one of his many bunker residences with his Putinistas.

We have the bigger stick and sell it to people who pay, so that nobody starts anything with them. Everyone makes out without issue.

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

Support for Putin is support for the Clinton Foundation, the Biden shell companies, John Kerry and his shell companies, and black Bolshevik Obama.

Leftists accuse you of what they are guilty of first, to throw everyone off track.

That’s why Hillary launched the Russia collusion BS, and the FBI and CIA went along with it fully.

Every wonder why that is?

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Support for Putin is support for the Clinton Foundation, the Biden shell companies, John Kerry and his shell companies, and black Bolshevik Obama.

Leftists accuse you of what they are guilty of first, to throw everyone off track.

That’s why Hillary launched the Russia collusion BS, and the FBI and CIA went along with it fully.

Every wonder why that is?

We all know that. This was news 7 years ago.

mosin46 · Dec 9, 2024

wow,the feds are getting pissy on here. the ad hominems are weak. i guess your inability to recognize any disagreement with your neocon outlook has to come from a young, web only informed,single parent,public school product. not the case. like most neocons you seem to think that capitalism can't compete with communism without military intervention. not so. it failed in russia and everywhere else it tried. ultimately becomes a form of typical fascism with state control of the economy by an elitist minority. the supposed "benefits" of socialism get lost in the process pretty fast. the common people get the shaft pretty quick. ie kinda like the US,which starts to look pretty fascist these days. vietnam and china being fine examples. oh,BTW how was the neocon gig successful in vietnam?
you say there were places we shouldn't have interfered. you seem to ignore mentioning any. you also don't seem to mention any places where bombing it helped things along. you think serbia maybe benefited? the big question is if you had sons,gr.sons which MIC profit center would you be OK having them killed or maimed in? we need strong DEFENSE,which we seem to be losing lately. but,we can sure save the ideal of liberty by bombing libya,syria,serbia. not working too well in yemen where one could say it is needed. can't protect the red sea because we have to spend billions we don't have preventing the devil putin from whatever he wants to get in ukraine. i mean,protecting ukraine is much more important than protecting our border. you neocon idiots don't get it it. we don't need to control the whole planet at the point of a gun in order to have a prosperous society. we can't buy security by warfare and bombing everywhere. we are broke +++.

mosin46 · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Who is we? Responsible US citizens need to be making well-informed decisions moving forward.

Geopolitically-illiterates need not comment, as their opinions are invalid by default.

The left is already an enemy within who bought all the Soviet propaganda their teachers and professors fed them, so we don’t need any more people swallowing that slop.

You have to become informed if you want your posterity to have a chance.

If you don’t have kids, then you have no skin in the game, so no need to comment anyway.

yea,i guess that uninformed dumb fuck jefferson didn't have you or mcconnel,nuland,biden's wisdom. avoiding foreign entanglements is a plan for losers. being involved in 2 or 3 proxy wars is the way to benefit our country. the geopolitically superior know that having huge expenditures on those is THE way to make us safe.
and yea,anybody with 1/2 a brain doesn't care about things elsewhere that don't have anything but a imaginary threat here.

GreenGO Juan · Dec 9, 2024

mosin46 said:
yea,i guess that uninformed dumb fuck jefferson didn't have you or mcconnel,nuland,biden's wisdom. avoiding foreign entanglements is a plan for losers. being involved in 2 or 3 proxy wars is the way to benefit our country. the geopolitically superior know that having huge expenditures on those is THE way to make us safe.
and yea,anybody with 1/2 a brain doesn't care about things elsewhere that don't have anything but a imaginary threat here.

Is there any way I can motivate you to Capitalize the first letter in each sentence?

BTW just in general reading- Obama, Clinton and Biden have done more to fuck over Putin than anyone in US politics. They are not in cahoots with each other. What Gazprom(Putins Gem) has lost in assets and revenues pales in comparison to any of the bullshit bribery conspiracies I have seen any one mention. Billions... not thousands, not millions.. Billions.

LOl Thats just fucking retarded. So please can it with the superiority complex...

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

mosin46 said:
wow,the feds are getting pissy on here. the ad hominems are weak. i guess your inability to recognize any disagreement with your neocon outlook has to come from a young, web only informed,single parent,public school product. not the case. like most neocons you seem to think that capitalism can't compete with communism without military intervention. not so. it failed in russia and everywhere else it tried. ultimately becomes a form of typical fascism with state control of the economy by an elitist minority. the supposed "benefits" of socialism get lost in the process pretty fast. the common people get the shaft pretty quick. ie kinda like the US,which starts to look pretty fascist these days. vietnam and china being fine examples. oh,BTW how was the neocon gig successful in vietnam?
you say there were places we shouldn't have interfered. you seem to ignore mentioning any. you also don't seem to mention any places where bombing it helped things along. you think serbia maybe benefited? the big question is if you had sons,gr.sons which MIC profit center would you be OK having them killed or maimed in? we need strong DEFENSE,which we seem to be losing lately. but,we can sure save the ideal of liberty by bombing libya,syria,serbia. not working too well in yemen where one could say it is needed. can't protect the red sea because we have to spend billions we don't have preventing the devil putin from whatever he wants to get in ukraine. i mean,protecting ukraine is much more important than protecting our border. you neocon idiots don't get it it. we don't need to control the whole planet at the point of a gun in order to have a prosperous society. we can't buy security by warfare and bombing everywhere. we are broke +++.

So Trump foreign policy is Neocon?

Did you really just type that and hit send?

See how you keep framing the argument that I’m making neocon talking points, never listening, never reading, never comprehending?

What country did you say you were from again?

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

mosin46 said:
wow,the feds are getting pissy on here. the ad hominems are weak. i guess your inability to recognize any disagreement with your neocon outlook has to come from a young, web only informed,single parent,public school product. not the case. like most neocons you seem to think that capitalism can't compete with communism without military intervention. not so. it failed in russia and everywhere else it tried. ultimately becomes a form of typical fascism with state control of the economy by an elitist minority. the supposed "benefits" of socialism get lost in the process pretty fast. the common people get the shaft pretty quick. ie kinda like the US,which starts to look pretty fascist these days. vietnam and china being fine examples. oh,BTW how was the neocon gig successful in vietnam?
you say there were places we shouldn't have interfered. you seem to ignore mentioning any. you also don't seem to mention any places where bombing it helped things along. you think serbia maybe benefited? the big question is if you had sons,gr.sons which MIC profit center would you be OK having them killed or maimed in? we need strong DEFENSE,which we seem to be losing lately. but,we can sure save the ideal of liberty by bombing libya,syria,serbia. not working too well in yemen where one could say it is needed. can't protect the red sea because we have to spend billions we don't have preventing the devil putin from whatever he wants to get in ukraine. i mean,protecting ukraine is much more important than protecting our border. you neocon idiots don't get it it. we don't need to control the whole planet at the point of a gun in order to have a prosperous society. we can't buy security by warfare and bombing everywhere. we are broke +++.

Yeah, the person who has been calling for:

* The eradication of the Organized Crime family FBI
* Shut-down of the DOJ (can’t find them anywhere in the Constitution, doesn’t exist)
* Elimination of the Mafia faggot ATF (came from Mafia’s ATTU and ATU)
* Elimination of the CIA (never should have handed foreign intel over to Yale fags, Russian moles, and Mafia hitmen)
* Elimination of the DEA (drug-smuggling racket that does nothing to stop the flow)

Is a Fed. You know, I’ve been an advocate for those things for decades now, right? All on-record for all to see.

FBI was literally started by the Mafia, as was ATF.

So now where are you going to go with your pro-Russian BS?

You start to see how you don’t have any argument, other than defending Putin.

Weird, right?

LRRPF52 · Dec 9, 2024

This was the US in 1809 when Jefferson was last in office by the way. These are basic facts gents.

Hecouldgoalltheway · Dec 9, 2024

LRRPF52 said:
Yeah, the person who has been calling for:

* The eradication of the Organized Crime family FBI
* Shut-down of the DOJ (can’t find them anywhere in the Constitution, doesn’t exist)
* Elimination of the Mafia faggot ATF (came from Mafia’s ATTU and ATU)
* Elimination of the CIA (never should have handed foreign intel over to Yale fags, Russian moles, and Mafia hitmen)
* Elimination of the DEA (drug-smuggling racket that does nothing to stop the flow)

Is a Fed. You know, I’ve been an advocate for those things for decades now, right? All on-record for all to see.

FBI was literally started by the Mafia, as was ATF.

So now where are you going to go with your pro-Russian BS?

You start to see how you don’t have any argument, other than defending Putin.

Weird, right?

How is it pro-russian to say that we should leave Russia and everybody else the fuck alone?

It's pro-American. To say that we shouldn't have spent, nor should we continue to spend any money fighting proxy wars against the paper tiger that is Russia, pro-russian?
It's pro-American.

Nobody here is pro-Russian, we just don't care about Russia, or anyone else in that region. They shouldn't get anything from us that they don't pay for, (We know, you've mentioned the Trump sales to the Ukraine ad-nausium). Nobody is worried about Russia as a legitimate threat to the US, because they aren't, and if they were, sending hundreds of Billions of Dollars to fight proxy wars won't change anything. You're on some sort of high horse diddling yourself in a puddle of semantics that don't change one fucking thing in this conversation. We aren't afraid of Russia. They aren't a legitimate threat to us and they never were. China is a legitimate threat. Iran, NK, and Russia, (among others) will take their little pot shots when they get a chance, but it will never amount to anything, and we always give better than we get. America won't commit to a total war with another superpower ever I hope, so the espionage game will continue forever, but where we are now is just fucking stupid and wasteful. Saying that is the absolute opposite of pro-russian, it's pro-american..

mosin46 · Dec 9, 2024

maybe i should educate myself by listening,reading and understanding your mccain/biden school blather. you jump around from the we should intervene places that suit your narrative,but you don't mention any that you claim you disagree with,which don't seem to exist. yes trump did send aid to ukraine and put milley in. he seems to be interested in ending ukraine war. not so sure about gaza/lebanon. we'll see what he does this time. he made some bad calls ,as every pres does. hope he can clean up biden's mess. yes am from US. i am sure your are too. most likely DC or Langley. but maybe NYC or LA? no,maybe an MI6 guy from london? you make no claims for any benefit to US nat'l security from any of the interventions over last 10 years. you show no damage to same by any of the interventions by other countries,russia for 1, into places like georgia or checnya. well we did spend a lot to remove the taliban and then reinstall them. iran has been involved all over the ME. what is your reason we haven't bombed them? i guess having and using our power and resources overseas is better than fixing things here.

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