Where is the shift? Seems both detectable in a small increment and small shot sample.
OCW Guys… help me read these!
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Where is the shift? Seems both detectable in a small increment and small shot sample.
Enough to know that variance in group size controls with 5 shot groups. I’ve tried OCW with a 6GT and 6.5CM. I used to be the 3-5 shot group/look for nodes camp. Dogma and confirmation bias are powerful things lol. Once I started playing with tuners and shooting larger sample size groups I realized it’s not repeatable.
Ok, so I've read through this entire thread, I read the entire outdoor life article and have read here and elsewhere where numerous credible people have claimed that small sample size ladder or OCW tests are essentially invalid. My own belief is that "natural dispersion" is barrels in a "thing".
But for those that say ladders/OCWs with 3-5 shot sample sizes are a waste - I never have really heard what the alternative is to finding the best load to shoot. So like what is the Bottom Line??? Just pick any bullet/powder/brass combo and just go shoot it and it should be fine?? I've always been a velocity node / Lowest SD reloader and its worked well for me, so I'm sort of lost as to where to go from here.
But for those that say ladders/OCWs with 3-5 shot sample sizes are a waste - I never have really heard what the alternative is to finding the best load to shoot. So like what is the Bottom Line??? Just pick any bullet/powder/brass combo and just go shoot it and it should be fine?? I've always been a velocity node / Lowest SD reloader and its worked well for me, so I'm sort of lost as to where to go from here.
If your "velocity node/lowest SD" method works for you, go for it. I've abandoned the practice because of inconsistent results.
If you have some time watch this video:
If you have some time watch this video:
Im still new with the OCW and have some Tagetes I need to post for your alls review also so I can learn.
If my understanding is correct....And please someone correct me if I am wrong so I can learn as well.
In the targets listed by the OP I would be looking at loads from 43.1-43.5. With the middle of that being 43.3 then doing a seating depth test to determine best length.
Am I on the right track?
If my understanding is correct....And please someone correct me if I am wrong so I can learn as well.
In the targets listed by the OP I would be looking at loads from 43.1-43.5. With the middle of that being 43.3 then doing a seating depth test to determine best length.
Am I on the right track?
Yes, I agree with your suggestion. Feel free to post your targets and what you think you should do next. Hopefully the majority of responses will agree with you or steer you in the right direction. Good luck.
I don't have any opinions on what you said, yet. but how do you think Tac Ops tune their rifle to the FGMM ammo?
Are you testing a tuner?
They probably shoot 3-5 groups and find a setting they think is good but it’s just random distribution of group sizes…..
