Ruger RXM - Magpul & Ruger make a Glock 19 clone

Charmingmander · Dec 11, 2024

Glock 19 Gen 3 compatible. Uses a chassis system so you can switch grips which are made by Magpul. Definitely going to pick one up. Especially at that price.

Ruger RXM

Magpul Grips

I was waiting for Magpul to do something like this for Glocks.

Cascade Hemi · Dec 11, 2024

$400 street price available today.

stanley_white · Dec 11, 2024

What problem does this solve?

-Stan

RFutch · Dec 11, 2024

Trigger sucks, just like a stock glock. Grip feels awesome. Sights and mag release are good.

I just wonder can this thing take other triggers in the FCU or are you stuck with what they give you?

dms416 · Dec 11, 2024

stanley_white said:
What problem does this solve?

-Stan

At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

higginsworksforme · Dec 11, 2024

It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

dms416 · Dec 11, 2024

higginsworksforme said:
It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

That new 300bo with the short fat barrel in the folder stock is fuckin sick. Not $1800 but has me wantin’ to get some A-team on

higginsworksforme · Dec 11, 2024

dms416 said:
That new 300bo with the short fat barrel in the folder stock is fuckin sick. Not $1800 but has me wantin’ to get some A-team on

The attackcopter blog post noted that the street price will be much less, but we shall see. That Samson stock is available for the 10/22 and I was looking at integrally suppressed barrels.

stanley_white · Dec 11, 2024

dms416 said:
At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

Thank you.

-Stan

hlee · Dec 11, 2024

higginsworksforme said:
It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

Let’s assess the precision before we start with the crazy talk…

higginsworksforme · Dec 11, 2024

hlee said:
Let’s assess the precision before we start with the crazy talk…

I don't think anyone expects the mini to be precise.

dms416 · Dec 11, 2024

stanley_white said:
Thank you.

-Stan

It could also be a flaming turd too... there's some minor things that give me pause. Essentially it's a Gen 3 Glock copy with an FCU and a few other theoretically good ideas for $400.

Charmingmander · Dec 11, 2024

My LGS confirmed $429 once they can get them in.

stanley_white · Dec 11, 2024

dms416 said:
It could also be a flaming turd too... there's some minor things that give me pause. Essentially it's a Gen 3 Glock copy with an FCU and a few other theoretically good ideas for $400.

I agree.

I asked because none of the features it has are on my list of things I desire.

Now, if the lower was ambidextrous, or if the lower allowed me to switch between double stack and single stack magazines, or if it was made in God’s Caliber of 45 ACP, well I would be inching towards “Add to Cart.”

-Stan

atomic41 · Dec 11, 2024

dms416 said:
...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

I saw one review that said it is 17 degree, same as a 1911. That is the one feature that I desire. I've been wishing Glock would fix their retarded grip angle forever.

hlee · Dec 11, 2024

stanley_white said:
or if the lower allowed me to switch between double stack and single stack magazines,

I’ve always wanted a pistol that would allow me to have fewer bullets. Said no one. Ever…

stanley_white · Dec 11, 2024

hlee said:
I’ve always wanted a pistol that would allow me to have fewer bullets. Said no one. Ever…

If the pistol design is neato because it’s firing system can be easily removed and swapped between lowers, it would be nice if I, as a full grown male, could use it with a full size lower, and then I could swap the firing system to a different lower with a single stack magazine, so smaller handed family members could shoot it comfortably too.

-Stan

hlee · Dec 11, 2024

stanley_white said:
If the pistol design is neato because it’s firing system can be easily removed and swapped between lowers, it would be nice if I, as a full grown male, could use it with a full size lower, and then I could swap the firing system to a different lower with a single stack magazine, so smaller handed family members could shoot it comfortably too.

-Stan

Kinda like moving an AR trigger from a lower with an A2 fixed stock, to a lower with a collapsible stock.

stanley_white · Dec 11, 2024

hlee said:
Kinda like moving an AR trigger from a lower with an A2 fixed stock, to a lower with a collapsible stock.

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Luckily, you don’t have to get it.

-Stan

Clob McStrunk · Dec 11, 2024

Well, that's just plain dumb.

ut755ln · Dec 11, 2024

dms416 said:
At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

It is not a Glock clone, it is an unproven pistol of unknown quality and reliability.

Ty21 · Dec 11, 2024

So it’s a sig p320…but made by ruger?

Cascade Hemi · Dec 12, 2024

Ty21 said:
So it’s a sig p320…but made by ruger?

It uses Glock triggers so it won't go off in your holster.

TheOE800 · Dec 12, 2024

So a down market Zev OZ9?

Ty21 · Dec 12, 2024

Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

dms416 · Dec 12, 2024

ut755ln said:
It is not a Glock clone, it is an unproven pistol of unknown quality and reliability.

It can be both. But look at the schematics for the gun. Its operation is a copy of the Gen 3 Glock and accepts some Glock parts.

Charmingmander · Dec 12, 2024

Ty21 said:
Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

It's been demonstrated repeatedly that the gun is unsafe. It wasn't even safe when SIG started shipping them. And the design is retarded because they just adapted the P250 instead of a ground up design made to be striker fired.

Defending SIG at this point is moronic.

ut755ln · Dec 12, 2024

TheOE800 said:
So a down market Zev OZ9?

Now that I can see how it is built and where there is crossover, I would say a better version of the PSA Dagger (probably).

Conqueror · Dec 12, 2024

Ty21 said:
Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

Yeah I’m sure Sig did the “voluntary upgrade program” (don’t call it a recall!) just because of some incorrect internet rumors.

Kamerad · Dec 12, 2024

A co-worker told me about this pistol yesterday, and I think it looks great. I’d like to get my hands on one. My gun budget was HK, Steyr and Seekins. With a young and growing family, it’s now Glock and Ruger, so yeah I’m interested!

Charmingmander · Dec 12, 2024

Conqueror said:
Yeah I’m sure Sig did the “voluntary upgrade program” (don’t call it a recall!) just because of some incorrect internet rumors.

Handing out settlements lately too.

powdahound76 · Dec 12, 2024

atomic41 said:
I saw one review that said it is 17 degree, same as a 1911. That is the one feature that I desire. I've been wishing Glock would fix their retarded grip angle forever.

There is a point to that grip angle….

It isnt to appease people who are too lazy to put in the work and learn to shoot a pistol because “it isnt easy” the first time.

Channeling my inner 308Pirate

How did I do?
I should probably swear more and call you dumb to get full points.

Now me being me.
The Glock grip is the way it is for a reason.
Not all like it, or work to overcome the slightly odd initial feel.
Now I shoot and carry a g19 and it is second nature.

hlee · Dec 12, 2024

powdahound76 said:
Channeling my inner 308Pirate
How did I do?
I should probably swear more and call you dumb to get full points.

I think it is supposed to start with “tell me you don’t know how to shoot a pistol without telling me you don’t know how to shoot a pistol.”

Cascade Hemi · Dec 12, 2024

TheOE800 said:
So a down market Zev OZ9?

More or less but with a properly constructed marketing campaign, production schedule, and logistics.

Ruger pulled of a perfect launch. It's a luke warm me-too product but Ruger corporate launched their marketing followed 12 hours later with the embargo lift and landed inventory in most retailers. There's no cooling off period for consumers, end user reviews are appearing within 24 hours of the influencer reviews.

Regardless of what you think of the product, Ruger really paid attention to MagPul's consultants. As long as there aren't massive quality issues, this will probably be fairly successful due to the launch.

Chef's Kiss!

samadisoulcrusher · Dec 12, 2024

Cascade Hemi said:
More or less but with a properly constructed marketing campaign, production schedule, and logistics.

Ruger pulled of a perfect launch. It's a luke warm me-too product but Ruger corporate launched their marketing followed 12 hours later with the embargo lift and landed inventory in most retailers. There's no cooling off period for consumers, end user reviews are appearing within 24 hours of the influencer reviews.

Regardless of what you think of the product, Ruger really paid attention to MagPul's consultants. As long as there aren't massive quality issues, this will probably be fairly successful due to the launch.

Chef's Kiss!

Agree. They really did nail the full court press! I see this gun on multiple social media platforms'!

jpp3g · Dec 12, 2024

I understand sticking to gen 3 parts for everything except the magazine release. Seems silly to make a grip from the ground up that doesn't have a reversible magazine release. Oh well, they'll still sell a ton of them.

gigamortis · Dec 12, 2024

The Glock grip angle reportedly came about because Gaston started designing a pistol with his starting point based on the mechanics of the human hand grip. He wasn't a sport shooter at all to start with, and didn't let existing pistol designs cloud his vision too much.

If you let your wrist cam down enough for a level sight picture on a full size Glock, you will find that most average folk's wrists seem to have a range of motion limit around the 19 degree mark. This wrist down angle is a repeatable stopping point reference for a natural point of aim with the Glock platform. The fire control design of a Glock is simpler than anything else before it as well.

Sure, Glock triggers are mass produced crunch and tick crap right out of the box. Smooth off all those punch press burrs and edge tears off of any moving part that interfaces with another and you have a decent self defense trigger pull.

ut755ln · Dec 12, 2024

I think it’s funny that the internet named it the Gluger

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