Ok… I’m stumped (drywall construction)

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This one has me stumped.

A friend asked me to stop by and find wall studs. I grabbed a magnet and stopped by.

SOME seems have screws (or nails) holding the drywall. The rest has no metal anywhere.

Can someone enlighten me on this one?
 
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Screws and nails have iron.

999/1000 that .50 magnet works better.

It’s a home so I doubt aluminum studs.

Whole home is like this.
 
saves a lots of spackling work. many will use screws in the corners to hold it until the glue sets.
i guess the glue has to be designed to penetrate the paper so you're not just gluing the paper to the studs.

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We have buildings at work that are no stud construction. Just a plate angle and a header angle and two layers of inch and a quarter rock. But I doubt his house is that way. :D
 
used to be able to trust they would be 16" on center but these days?

you wall mounting a big tv or some cabinets? if cabinets, i'd just drive some finishing nails to find them if nothing else :p


Friend asked about studs and I’ve never seen a contractor across 3 states that glued drywall.

But to what you asked about being mounted, it’s grab bars in a shower.
 
Well that escalated quickly 🤣
To the OP
There are different types of construction commonly used, including gluing drywall. Sometimes an additional layer of material may be installed behind the drywall for noise reduction or additional insulation.
Especially the latter can make stud detection difficult.
 
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used to be able to trust they would be 16" on center but these days?

you wall mounting a big tv or some cabinets? if cabinets, i'd just drive some finishing nails to find them if nothing else :p
Especially in the "new build" subdivisions.

Might as well get a good finder and call it a day. I have a solid 1in soild oak desktop and the finder I mentioned previously will detect a pen held flat underneath the desk.
 
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Friend asked about studs and I’ve never seen a contractor across 3 states that glued drywall.

But to what you asked about being mounted, it’s grab bars in a shower.
Fiberglass shower will be a small amount, up to a couple inches away from studs. At least where I've mounted grab bars. The mounting flange is all around the outside edge. But I often try and block in for them first, so the blocking is tight to the back of the shower wall.

Someone has a grab bar setup out right now that doesn't need blocking. The name evades me right now. Not much, but hopefully it helps
 
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Let me slow it down for you. An electrical box is nailed to the side of a stud. Bingo! You found one! Now use your tape measure and find more studs!

In a proper, in a perfect world, it would be 15.25" to the center of the next stud. Good luck.

You have to account for interior walls, sometimes being 24" on center.

You have to account for scab pieces tacked to the stud to place the outlet in proper distance to the door, wall end, etc... Same with plumbing fixtures.

Lastly, you have to account for generally shitty, non-conforming work that was covered up with sheet rock and mud.

There's more of that going around than studs being 16" on centers...
 
Quit being a cunt. Locate the edge of a switch or outlet determine what side of the stud it's nailed on and measure out 16"

Perhaps in Wisconsin framers still speak English as their first language and still take pride in their work; in many other areas…..no so much. My experience has been if the house was built before 1975, there’s a good chance they used a tape measure, if after….depends on the framing crew.
 
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Hit the nail firmly on the head.

Roofing jobs around here are great.

Anything covered up by something else? Not so great.

A neighbor a few houses down and across the street is having his driveway pad replaced due to the giant live oaks fucking it up.

I walked over there and it's supposedly ready to pour.
There's areas where it won't even be 3" thick.
The footings are maybe 6" wide and if he's lucky, 6"deep.

I'll give it till spring before it cracks down the center. Again...

Then there's the issue of the cable that wasn't 12" below surface that came up with the old concrete. Frontier is having to run a new 125yard long replacement. It will go under 3 other driveways.
I wonder how many sprinkler lines/heads will get fucked up with their work.
 
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Fiberglass shower will be a small amount, up to a couple inches away from studs. At least where I've mounted grab bars. The mounting flange is all around the outside edge. But I often try and block in for them first, so the blocking is tight to the back of the shower wall.

Someone has a grab bar setup out right now that doesn't need blocking. The name evades me right now. Not much, but hopefully it helps

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walked over there and it's supposedly ready to pour.
There's areas where it won't even be 3" thick.
The footings are maybe 6" wide and if he's lucky, 6"deep.


Tell me they didn’t put any rebar or wire mesh in it without telling me they didn’t put any rebar or wire mesh in it. 🤣. Two years ago my nextdoor neighbors had their old asphalt driveway redone with concrete. I watched the whole process and it was the same thing, there’s areas where it’s not very thick, it has no footing, and no mesh or rebar. They over vibrated it on one section and top flaked off the first winter. They sold it the next summer and it’s someone else’s problem now. They also just eyeballed the forms, I mean who uses a transit and level these days to set slope and drainage 🤷🏻‍♂️. No pride in workmanship any more.
 
Tell me they didn’t put any rebar or wire mesh in it without telling me they didn’t put any rebar or wire mesh in it. 🤣. Two years ago my nextdoor neighbors had their old asphalt driveway redone with concrete. I watched the whole process and it was the same thing, there’s areas where it’s not very thick, it has no footing, and no mesh or rebar. They over vibrated it on one section and top flaked off the first winter. They sold it the next summer and it’s someone else’s problem now. They also just eyeballed the forms, I mean who uses a transit and level these days to set slope and drainage 🤷🏻‍♂️. No pride in workmanship any more.
A favorite of mine was the messicans pouring driveways that had to have inspection on the rebar. After passing inspection, they’d lift the whole assembly to the next driveway in the neighborhood.
 
I had a house built on 10 acres on the south east side of Lake Coeur d’Alene, ID in 1997. The builder did a fantastic job and was easy to work with. The HVAC contractor, probably a Kali transplant, not so much. He literally stuck a 1.5 ton AC in a 3900 sf house. I figured it out the first summer when I couldn’t keep it cool. Fortunately, I had the spec sheet that called for a much larger unit and forced him to change it out as I had paid for that larger unit. You have to watch every single thing in a build.
 
A favorite of mine was the messicans pouring driveways that had to have inspection on the rebar. After passing inspection, they’d lift the whole assembly to the next driveway in the neighborhood.
Haha! That’s how they do ALL the track homes in cities. If you buy one, buy one on the end of the street at least that way you have a 50/50 chance of having rebar in your flatwork