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Parker Hale M82 Clone

#153
Make a M82 mine ;)🙃

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S12A ;):D

I understand... It is an attractive rifle, true... . They're with very low prices in sale in UK, as far as I know.. :oops::confused:


EOD100. You are right, too... you're spoiling everything ! :cry:
 

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#169
Parker Hale T4's are going for around £100-£150 GBP in UK Auction at the moment, nobody wants them.
If they have the correct L42 style 7.62 Magazine, then that alone is worth more than you'll pay for the rifle, then the sights are worth the price of the rifle too. All in all they are valuable for parts, but nobody wants them for shooting.
 
#173
that's not an M82 stock . barrel profile certainly isn't a M82 either, Bolt handle has been modified as well as a bolt knob fitted. Not much on it that says M82 to me .
Maybe the action? it does appear to have the safety in the correct location for a PH of any 1200 series
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#174
The stock does look like the M84 in the picture but mine is not a single shot, it has an internal magazine. I recently found the original barrel at the old site and installed it, it is a heavier profile.Not sure what I have at this point but it is interesting. Barrel seems to have a 1:12 twist if memory serves. It also has the bottom rail with hand stop/support. The action is that of a Mauser design with a smooth shroud. There are two holes in the end of the barrel where I assume a site blade once was installed. I made the bolt handle so that is why it is not original, the old bolt was missing but I had a mauser 98 bolt I fit to the receiver. Maybe I just have parts and pieces.... shoots good though!

Looking at additional pictures I think maybe I have an M85 stock that should have the detachable 10 round box magazine, I am missing the metal parts needed, maybe I will fabricate the bottom metal to accept an M14 10rnd magazine, might be cool, I dunno got a lot of projects going right now.
 
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Mr65 said:
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I think I have a PH M82, I found this in a barn in many pieces stacked in a junk pile and refinished it. It was fully disassembled but I found 90% of the parts and sourced the rest online to complete it. Shoots very well!
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A good story in any case. Because there are generally IMHO many - better - too many - rifles complete or disassembled kept/hidden, somewhere.. . Rifles which were still usable, well understood, please :(
 
#179
Correct scope for C3 is the old Kahles ZF-69, 158xxx serial range to be specific. There are some other Kahles Helia Super 6x models that almost look the part, even see at least one on Fleabay right now. M82's have also been seen with different flavours of Pecar fixed and variable zoom scopes of a similar vintage.
 
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tarrantula said:
Correct scope for C3 is the old Kahles ZF-69, 158xxx serial range to be specific. There are some other Kahles Helia Super 6x models that almost look the part, even see at least one on Fleabay right now. M82's have also been seen with different flavours of Pecar fixed and variable zoom scopes of a similar vintage.
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What reticle did the C3 run in the ZF69? I just picked up a NOS ZF69, new in the box, but it has the German "T". I will be putting it on the M82/C3 part deux, regardless. Just need to rangle some 26mm rings,, or have some 1 inchers I have in stock punched out.
 
#182
What reticle did the C3 run in the ZF69? I just picked up a NOS ZF69, new in the box, but it has the German "T". I will be putting it on the M82/C3 part deux, regardless.
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I was just about to ask that as well
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I personally don't know what reticle the Canadian M82 used, but I did find this info re Australian and New Zealand militaries;

Parker-Hale M82 - Wikipedia

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M82 rifles that were in service in the Australian and New Zealand armies used the Austrian Kahles Wien ZF-69 6×42 (26mm tube) drop compensation telescopic sight set in 100m increments out to 800m, with fine crosshair.
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...and on this Canadian website - post #648 the member indicated that he has a ZF-69 in the proper serial number block, but with the wrong reticle:
just picked up scope #158637 has the proper elevation and windage turrets but has the duplex retical not the German post
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....he makes it sound like the German post was the correct reticle, and for a sniper rifle designed back in 1972, that sounds correct to me.
 
#183
Random Guy said:
I personally don't know what reticle the Canadian M82 used, but I did find this info re Australian and New Zealand militaries;

Parker-Hale M82 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


...and on this Canadian website - post #648 the member indicated that he has a ZF-69 in the proper serial number block, but with the wrong reticle:

....he makes it sound like the German post was the correct reticle, and for a sniper rifle designed back in 1972, that sounds correct to me.
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Holy crap, how did I miss that page when I was researching my first gun! Going to be doing some reading tonight if work is slow. My scope is a 153xxx SN, I think it was off an SSG, as it has some QD mounts with it. #2 is going to get started shortly, once I get a workshop put together in the new house. I hope to correct a couple inaccuracies I ran into with #1.
 
#185
My own ZF-69, off a New Zealand Police SSG-69, has a reticle like a cross between 1A and 4A below.

ZF-69s were also used on the earlier NZ Police C3 sniper rifle, which was the same as the NZ Army used at the time.

The fine horizontal line is level with the top of the thick horizontal lines, so there is a small gap between the top of the post and the thin horizontal line. I have a picture of the reticle somewhere but cant find it right now.

I can't remember the reticle in ZF-69 on the Army C3. It's too long ago since I had a look at one (1980's).

I'm still annoyed that I never brough a ex-police C3 when I had the chance. I brough two SSGs instead.

 
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merrildog said:
New old member here. I have been away from the Hide for about 10 years, and feel it's time to get back to some precision projects now that the kids are gone! I always wanted a Parker-Hale M82, but, they are un-obtanium, and when one pops up, they are super expensive. So, I have planned to build a "clone" for some time, so here goes. I found Old West Scrounger had M81 "cadet" stocks available. The profile is the same as the M82, but they are single shot, and use a different accessory rail. I bought a couple to play with. Pro's, they have the internal magazine outlined for in-letting and are beautiful Walnut stocks made by Parker Hale, with spacers and a recoil pad. Cons, as mentioned above, different accessory rail (Anschultz style versus the PH threaded rail), no internal magazine, and as they were single shot, large round recesses for excrussions. I plan to inlet the magazine well, and found a PH accessory rail for the Cadet stock, which will be , not quite right, but, is what it is. I started searching for a large ring commercial 98 action, and decided to use a Zestava action for the project. I found a good one in 30-06 on gunbroker, and pulled the trigger. A day later, three nos, in the white Santa Barbra actions came up for sale. Santa Barbra produced the commercial actions for PH. To much to resist, bought one. I also scrounged a set of PH 22 and 28 scope bases, and found two brand new RAHS3 scope rings in 1 inch. I plan to go with a 10 power fixed Bushnell 1 inch scope. The M82 used the RALS3, but the high rings will work with my scope. I sent the Santa Barbra action to my smith, who advised me it was actually a magnum action, and would need the bolt face welded up if I was going to run .308 through it. As I also had the Zastava action, I had him swap bolts, true the lugs and bolt face, and she will work fine for .308. This leaves me with the Zastava machined action, which now has a magnum bolt in it. Next build, .404 Jeffery Safari rifle... Last is the barrel. I had McGowan Precision build a 26 inch 1-12 twist on the M82/1200TX profile. Barrel arrived, and is a thing of beauty. Time to put all of this stuff together into a rifle.View attachment 7387563
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As an expat Aussie I've always wanted one, it would look good with my MA SLR
 
#190
Sniff said:
My own ZF-69, off a New Zealand Police SSG-69, has a reticle like a cross between 1A and 4A below.

ZF-69s were also used on the earlier NZ Police C3 sniper rifle, which was the same as the NZ Army used at the time.

The fine horizontal line is level with the top of the thick horizontal lines, so there is a small gap between the top of the post and the thin horizontal line. I have a picture of the reticle somewhere but cant find it right now.

I can't remember the reticle in ZF-69 on the Army C3. It's too long ago since I had a look at one (1980's).

I'm still annoyed that I never brough a ex-police C3 when I had the chance. I brough two SSGs instead.

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Just wondering why you are referring to the NZP Sniper rifles being named the C3. Was there some kind of link to the Canadian rifles? I’ve just never heard of the PH Sniper rifles in NZ being referred to as anything other than the M82. Cheers, S.
 
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Sniff said:
My own ZF-69, off a New Zealand Police SSG-69, has a reticle like a cross between 1A and 4A below.

ZF-69s were also used on the earlier NZ Police C3 sniper rifle, which was the same as the NZ Army used at the time.

The fine horizontal line is level with the top of the thick horizontal lines, so there is a small gap between the top of the post and the thin horizontal line. I have a picture of the reticle somewhere but cant find it right now.

I can't remember the reticle in ZF-69 on the Army C3. It's too long ago since I had a look at one (1980's).

I'm still annoyed that I never brough a ex-police C3 when I had the chance. I brough two SSGs instead.

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Just wondering why you are referring to the NZP Sniper rifles being named the C3. Was there some kind of link to the Canadian rifles? I’ve just never heard of the PH Sniper rifles in NZ being referred to as anything other than the M82. Cheers, S.
 
#192
ReplicaSnipers said:
Just wondering why you are referring to the NZP Sniper rifles being named the C3. Was there some kind of link to the Canadian rifles? I’ve just never heard of the PH Sniper rifles in NZ being referred to as anything other than the M82. Cheers, S.
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When I was in the NZ Army, both regular and reserve from 1986 - 1996 (but not a sniper), they were always referred to as the C3 sniper rifle. Never heard of it called the M82.

The issued NZ Army ammo for the C3 was 'selected' lots standard Australian made F4 144gr FMJ ammo made in the Footscray factory in Melbourne.
"Selected' meaning the School of Infantry (who ran the sniper courses) would request specific lots of F4 ammo that grouped better in their rifles than the other lots of F4 ammo. I'll take a photo of one of the steel 300 round boxes and post it here in the next few days.

New Zealand also used the Canadian designation C9 for the FN Minimi (M249 SAW).
 
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#193
Okay, here is the issued ammo for the New Zealand Army's C3, (or M82, or Parker Hale 1200 if you prefer), sniper rifles when they were in use in the 1980s to about the 1990s, when they were replaced with Accuracy International AW rifles.

As I said above, the sniper ammo was just selected lots of the standard F4 that grouped better in the School of Infantry's rifles.

The Australian made F4 7.62mm ammunition was a 144 grain FMJ bullet. The cases were berden primed.

300 rounds in cardboard boxes were packed into a standard M19A1 ammo tin. 200 rounds in cloth bandoliers could also be held in the same ammo tins.

The lot number is the MF factory code and date of manufacture.

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In the 1980s and early 1990s, I'm pretty sure the only other sniper rifles used by the New Zealand Army were the H&K PSG-1 rifles used by the NZSAS for counter terrorist work and some bolt action rifles (Remington 700 I think) in .220 Swift. Also only used by NZSAS in the counter terrorist role.

The H&K PSG-1 rifles used Lapua 185 grain D46 ammunition and the .220 Swift was Remington from memory. Both the Lapua 185gr and the .220 Swift ammo was later sold in the civilian market as surplus.

The new Accuracy International AW rifles used Lapua 170 grain HPS (High Performance Sniper) ammo.

I have no idea what ammo they use now in the Barratt MRAD or LMT 7.62mm rifles.
 
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