Who "scares" you the most???

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    #1
    Well... not "scare..." per se. All the active participants in this forum can't be all that "scared" or they wouldn't be here very long. :ROFLMAO:

    But let's put it this way. Which of our Fed. Govt. agencies (and their heads) do you think represents the greatest potential negative impact on gun owners? DOJ? FBI? ATF? I was watching a YouTube video by Washington Gun Law Channel owner William Kirk. He was discussing whether or not the negative response from the 2A community over the nomination of Pam Bondi is really justified. Yes, she did do all those things as FL AG (🚩 laws, raise the age to 21, and lobby against OC). But he proffers the argument that this was what she was supposed to do in her capacity as FL AG and may not be her personal preference. It was the law of the land (via the FL legislature at the time) and she had to support it. I'm not so sure I agree, but...

    What Kirk says we should be more concerned about is who becomes the Dir. of ATF. Assuming that the DOJ will let it run as autonomously as it has been previously (I guess because ATF and DOJ were "aligned" to this point, but...). So, if Brandon Herrera becomes ATF Director, will we be better off even though Pam Bondi is AG? Or, will Bondi just override him? Don't know.

    I think for me, the people/agency that have the greatest negative impact on me, personally, would be those that want to impose a national 🚩 law. If Bondi has that on her agenda, then she's a really bad choice. Or, if it's on the agenda of the other agencies, as well. Now I also saw "Lehto's Law" video that stated the "Institute for Justice" was able to get the DEA to suspend Civil Asset Forfeitures at the airports, etc. So that's a good thing. We'll see how that goes.


    So, which agency (or head/cabinet position) do you think respresents the greatest potential negative impact on gun owners in the upcoming Trump administration?
     
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    don't get what i say wrong as 2A is essential for our freedom. but taking it alone as a litmus test just doesn't hold for me. IMHO homeland security is the worst threat to our liberty with their rubber stamp fisa courts and invented with legislation that totally rescinds all of the bill of rights. doj,and all it's parts; nih,and all it's parts are close calls IMHO.
    in that 2A is part of THE bill any threat to that is an existential threat to our liberty,guns rights included. many agencies have gone after related things in order to destroy 2A. denial of self protection rights,anti hunting,epa persecution of shooting ranges etc. attacks on 2A can take many back door pathways and have.
     
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    Fx51LP308 said:
    Well... not "scare..." per se. All the active participants in this forum can't be all that "scared" or they wouldn't be here very long. :ROFLMAO:

    But let's put it this way. Which of our Fed. Govt. agencies (and their heads) do you think represents the greatest potential negative impact on gun owners? DOJ? FBI? ATF? I was watching a YouTube video by Washington Gun Law Channel owner William Kirk. He was discussing whether or not the negative response from the 2A community over the nomination of Pam Bondi is really justified. Yes, she did do all those things as FL AG (🚩 laws, raise the age to 21, and lobby against OC). But he proffers the argument that this was what she was supposed to do in her capacity as FL AG and may not be her personal preference. It was the law of the land (via the FL legislature at the time) and she had to support it. I'm not so sure I agree, but...

    What Kirk says we should be more concerned about is who becomes the Dir. of ATF. Assuming that the DOJ will let it run as autonomously as it has been previously (I guess because ATF and DOJ were "aligned" to this point, but...). So, if Brandon Herrera becomes ATF Director, will we be better off even though Pam Bondi is AG? Or, will Bondi just override him? Don't know.

    I think for me, the people/agency that have the greatest negative impact on me, personally, would be those that want to impose a national 🚩 law. If Bondi has that on her agenda, then she's a really bad choice. Or, if it's on the agenda of the other agencies, as well. Now I also saw "Lehto's Law" video that stated the "Institute for Justice" was able to get the DEA to suspend Civil Asset Forfeitures at the airports, etc. So that's a good thing. We'll see how that goes.


    So, which agency (or head/cabinet position) do you think respresents the greatest potential negative impact on gun owners in the upcoming Trump administration?
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    Honestly?
    I'm not afraid of any of it.
    Me and mine, on our little chunk of the USA, will fare.
    Fare well or not is yet to be determined.
    My county sheriff and/or his deputies will decide how it all plays out in the end and I feel confident in their assessment of the status. I have their backs and they know it, I hope reciprocity is in play.
    I am sure glad we are not under the city police jurisdiction.
     
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    Aftermath said:
    Honestly?
    I'm not afraid of any of it.
    Me and mine, on our little chunk of the USA, will fare.
    Fare well or not is yet to be determined.
    My county sheriff and/or his deputies will decide how it all plays out in the end and I feel confident in their assessment of the status. I have their backs and they know it, I hope reciprocity is in play.
    I am sure glad we are not under the city police jurisdiction.
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    Man, sounds like you are in an area very similar to where I am.
     
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    Aftermath said:
    Honestly?
    I'm not afraid of any of it.
    Me and mine, on our little chunk of the USA, will fare.
    Fare well or not is yet to be determined.
    My county sheriff and/or his deputies will decide how it all plays out in the end and I feel confident in their assessment of the status. I have their backs and they know it, I hope reciprocity is in play.
    I am sure glad we are not under the city police jurisdiction.
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    Good luck with that.
     
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    sloporsche said:
    do the math right and the chances are you will never hear from them
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    Unless you anger the democrats or the swamp creatures, then no matter how much you are perfect, they will be all over you to make your life miserable or worse. After all, they have all these new gun toting jackboots, you know they are itching to use them.
     
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    Who scares me the most are the complacent people who are content with handing over their individual freedoms to live behind a veil of "security", and are glad to turn on each other for the government's benefit at the drop of a hat. As long as they are kept fat, happy, and lazy, that is all that matters. Bonus to them if they don't have to work, just collect benefits off of the efforts of others.

    While those people on an individual level don't scare me, collectively they form a massive chunk of our population and can easily sway policy. My only hopes are that their reckoning occurs during my lifetime, and doesn't become a burden that my grandchildren have to face without me.
     
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    Whenever a democrat says the words,"fair share".

    That's fucking terrifying. A literal class of fucking idiots who believe in their black evil hearts they are entitled to a majority of the money I've earned.

    They still think they are the slave masters. Only now they think they own everyone.
     
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    The EPA. They can shut down your range. They can determine what ammo you can shoot. They can say where you can (can't) shoot or hunt. They can determine what gunpowder you can use. They can regulate how much noise you can generate. The list is endless it seems.
     
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    sloporsche said:
    do the math right and the chances are you will never hear from them
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    I was fortunate enough to actually sue the IRS for damages back in the late 70's and win. I promise you, if you ever get to them, they will never forget it. For years, it seemed like they used me to break in every new auditor they had. Also, they would occasionally send me requests to see MY portion of documents and worksheets that they had no reason to request. The upside to this was I learned that the auditors that work for the IRS aren't the sharpest pencils in the drawer. So, whenever it came to a grey area on my return, I made sure that I always dotted my "I"s and crossed my "T"s . I also NEVER file electronically, but send in the entire printed out tax package for review. If they want to look for a mistake, I want them to jump through the same hoops they make me jump through. The last time I heard from them was about 20 years ago over a particular deduction of farm use diesel on my Schedule F and they questioned me on it. This wasn't much money, but it seemed to put them in a predicament because they actually owed me money, and I made them write me a check for it instead of applying it to the following years tax bill. According to the IRS rep on the phone, this was something out of policy for them. Since then though, I haven't heard a peep out of them.

    If you get that dreadful letter form the IRS, don't flip out. Dig out your return and make sure it was correct. You just might find out the mistake was theirs!
     
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