The Problem With Pam Bondi

Longshot231

Longshot231

Four Star General
Full Member
Minuteman
    • Mar 8, 2018
    12,169
    43,400
    #1
    I will save you some reading with a couple of videos:





    Here is a link to some information that the Gun Owners of America produced. At the end of the article is a linked request to sign a e-letter to your senators. You will have the ability to edit the letter. And, of course, after submitting the letter GOA will ask for a donation. You don't have to give a donation but I did anyway. GOA has never backed down with fighting for our 2A rights. A small donation is the least we can do for an organization that doesn't compromise.

    www.gunowners.org

    Pam Bondi’s “Second Amendment Problem” | GOA

    President Trump’s AG Nominee has a Mixed Record on 2A Rights The next Attorney General will oversee both the ATF and the FBI – which have notoriously and viciously cracked down on your God-given rights. Unfortunately, there are growing concerns among many gun owners that President Trump’s...
    www.gunowners.org www.gunowners.org
     
    #3
    I hate Red Flag laws, they are just a run around the 2A. Totally unconstitutional. Denying someone their constitutional rights should have more proof than an anonymous (in some states) phone call to bitch about a person. Worst, are states where the burden of proof is on the person whose rights were taken away and has to FIGHT (hire a lawyer) to get his shit back and rights restored. NO punishment on the caller or others.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: HD1911, SilentStalkr, BurtG and 7 others
    #4
    Longshot231 said:
    I will save you some reading with a couple of videos:





    Here is a link to some information that the Gun Owners of America produced. At the end of the article is a linked request to sign a e-letter to your senators. You will have the ability to edit the letter. And, of course, after submitting the letter GOA will ask for a donation. You don't have to give a donation but I did anyway. GOA has never backed down with fighting for our 2A rights. A small donation is the least we can do for an organization that doesn't compromise.

    www.gunowners.org

    Pam Bondi’s “Second Amendment Problem” | GOA

    President Trump’s AG Nominee has a Mixed Record on 2A Rights The next Attorney General will oversee both the ATF and the FBI – which have notoriously and viciously cracked down on your God-given rights. Unfortunately, there are growing concerns among many gun owners that President Trump’s...
    www.gunowners.org www.gunowners.org
    Click to expand...

    Bondi is a hard no for me.
     
    • Like
    • Love
    Reactions: HD1911, mettee, Blue Sky Country and 8 others
    #6
    babyguppy said:
    I hate Red Flag laws, they are just a run around the 2A. Totally unconstitutional. Denying someone their constitutional rights should have more proof than an anonymous (in some states) phone call to bitch about a person. Worst, are states where the burden of proof is on the person whose rights were taken away and has to FIGHT (hire a lawyer) to get his shit back and rights restored. NO punishment on the caller or others.
    Click to expand...

    Which state has this anonymous shit?
     
    #8
    Relax everybody she will do what Trump tells her to do. And also relax about gun control. Trumps 2 sons are bigger gun enthusiasts than almost anyone of you. Trust me they will be looking out for us with his dad. Trump is not a gun guy at all but his kids are world class.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: 101st
    #10
    babyguppy said:
    I hate Red Flag laws, they are just a run around the 2A. Totally unconstitutional. Denying someone their constitutional rights should have more proof than an anonymous (in some states) phone call to bitch about a person. Worst, are states where the burden of proof is on the person whose rights were taken away and has to FIGHT (hire a lawyer) to get his shit back and rights restored. NO punishment on the caller or others.
    Click to expand...

    918v said:
    Which state has this anonymous shit?
    Click to expand...

    I'd venture to say my former state, the PRNJ has it. Remember what these laws are for... LE. A tool they can use to effect their "underlying objective..." Get weapons off the streets and disarm the public. Even if the subject is totally innocent and not a danger at all, Good luck in getting your weapons/ammo back from LE. You can kiss them goodbye!
     
    Last edited:
    • Like
    Reactions: BuildingConceptsllc
    #11
    Fx51LP308 said:
    I'd venture to say my former state, the PRNJ has it. Remember what these laws are for LE. A tool they can use to effect their "underlying objective..." Get weapons off the streets and disarm the public. Even if the subject is totally innocent and not a danger at all, Good luck in getting your weapons/ammo back from LE. You can kiss them goodbye!
    Click to expand...

    NJ Red Flag Gun Law Attorney | Gelman Law, LLC

    Gelman Law, LLC helps clients facing red flag law issues in Burlington County, Camden County and throughout NJ. Free Consultation: 856-861-4236
    www.gelmanlawfirm.com www.gelmanlawfirm.com
     
    #14
    “You can’t always get what you want but ,if you try sometime, you get what you need”

    The hallmark of an ideologe is insistence on perfect at the expense of good enough and, as Picasso said, “don’t worry about perfect, you’ll never achieve it.

    For those 50 y.o. Or under, what AG in your lifetime do you like more than Bondi? Serious question.

    Personally, I see her as a massive upgrade over what we have been suffering with.

    Cheers.
     
    Last edited:
    • Like
    Reactions: whiskeytower and Bolt_Overide
    #15
    Detroit_1 said:
    You can listen to her call for it right here:

    Click to expand...


    So what she said was that the police were going to be able to seize the guns at the same time the owner was being taken into custody on a mental health hold. The phone app thing concerned anonymous reporting of behavior that warranted a mental health hold. They were not talking about seizure of guns based solely on an anonymous complaint.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: tinker
    #17
    reelserious said:
    Relax everybody she will do what Trump tells her to do. And also relax about gun control. Trumps 2 sons are bigger gun enthusiasts than almost anyone of you. Trust me they will be looking out for us with his dad. Trump is not a gun guy at all but his kids are world class.
    Click to expand...

    Like when Trump told his last DOJ to go after bump-stocks.(which in turn set the precedent for an avalanche of bad behavior on the behalf of the ATF.)

    Like when Trump said “take the guns then due process later”.

    Like when Trump and his leftist daughter pushed for Red flag laws.

    I swear gun owners were collectively dropped on their heads too many times as a child.

    F*ck that piece of crap Bondi. She belongs nowhere near the administration. She’s a former Democrat who turned Republican to win an election, not unlike Trump.

    There’s only one thing more dangerous to guns than a Democrat in office and that’s a Republican. Remember, it was Reagan who gave us the machine gun ban. But hey, people didn’t pay attention that he gave us the open carry ban in California before he ever got into the White House

    Gun owners fight like little girls.

    I am happy Trump won but let’s get real. He has four years and we are in danger. He doesn’t need us anymore.

    .
     
    • Like
    • Angry
    Reactions: ksokie, HD1911, Howland and 9 others
    #19
    Detroit_1 said:
    You might listen to it again. The app is for kids to anonymously rat out others on social media. The guns - there is no adjudication and no where does she ever discuss how the guns go back to the owner.
    Click to expand...

    I don’t have to listen to it again. Pam Bondi does not pass laws. She enforces laws. FL does not have a law that authorizes seizure of firearms based on anonymous tips.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Baron23
    #24
    Dispatcher91 said:
    Bondi always seems to lean toward goverment over freedom here in Fl.
    Click to expand...
    BTW so has Rubio- terrible choice for sec state or anything else. am concerned about trump's picks. for that matter Scott has always been a rino. wish my state would do better. of course many have done way worse. none of us have anything to vote for except the toads that the uniparty puts up for grabs.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: lariat, BurtG, Dispatcher91 and 1 other person
    #26
    babyguppy said:
    I hate Red Flag laws, they are just a run around the 2A. Totally unconstitutional. Denying someone their constitutional rights should have more proof than an anonymous (in some states) phone call to bitch about a person. Worst, are states where the burden of proof is on the person whose rights were taken away and has to FIGHT (hire a lawyer) to get his shit back and rights restored. NO punishment on the caller or others.
    Click to expand...
    Run around the 2A?

    You missed a few A’s in there.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Redmanss
    #27
    Holliday said:
    Like when Trump told his last DOJ to go after bump-stocks.(which in turn set the precedent for an avalanche of bad behavior on the behalf of the ATF.)

    Like when Trump said “take the guns then due process later”.

    Like when Trump and his leftist daughter pushed for Red flag laws.

    I swear gun owners were collectively dropped on their heads too many times as a child.

    F*ck that piece of crap Bondi. She belongs nowhere near the administration. She’s a former Democrat who turned Republican to win an election, not unlike Trump.

    There’s only one thing more dangerous to guns than a Democrat in office and that’s a Republican. Remember, it was Reagan who gave us the machine gun ban. But hey, people didn’t pay attention that he gave us the open carry ban in California before he ever got into the White House

    Gun owners fight like little girls.

    I am happy Trump won but let’s get real. He has four years and we are in danger. He doesn’t need us anymore.

    .
    Click to expand...
    Yep. Absolutely NOBODY should have expected anything less than Red Flag support and >21 y/o for purchase out of any "R".

    Remember folks, Trump is pro 2A to the point it drops his polling numbers when he goes too far either way, and despite what his sons may think he's not someone from gun culture. He's a New Yorker whom I'd bet money he doesn't know the difference between an AR and AK, or a Glock and a 1911. Everything he knows about gun control and freedoms, he learned from the NRA. Let that sink in for a moment.

    Trump and Bondi are not necessarily the solution, but Democrats are absolutely the problem. We are only slightly better off Monday evening than Monday morning. I'll be waiting for actions, both legislatively and bureaucratically, to make an inkling of a move from highly distrustful because despite what letter follows a name of the latest office holder, they're still the government who love power and control as much as they love taxes and restrictive laws that apply to the citizenry but not themselves.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: JR_77, HD1911, BurtG and 3 others
    #28
    918v said:
    Don’t put words in my mouth.
    Click to expand...
    Did I say that? Or did say you can listen to her call for that?

    It is from 2017 after Parkland. The law wasn't written yet. Encouraging kids to rat out others anonymously and an ex-parte hearings system - yeah, not down with that.

    So - how about you? You down with that?
     
    Last edited:
    #29
    Detroit_1 said:
    Did I say that? Or did say you can hear her call for that?

    It is from 2017 after Parkland. The law wasn't written yet. Encouraging kids to rat out others anonymously and an ex-parte hearings system - yeah, not down with that.

    So - how about you? You down with that?
    Click to expand...

    I’m not down with that. But I also understand that what she said in a news conference is not what would be implemented exactly as stated. For one thing, the police already have anonymous tip lines. So what’s the difference if they make an app for that? You don’t want people to be able to anonymously report crimes?
     
    #31
    918v said:
    I’m not down with that. But I also understand that what she said in a news conference is not what would be implemented exactly as stated.
    Click to expand...
    Cool beans on not being down for it.

    We probably differ (radically) on the role of the AG here - like you said, the AG enforces and does not make law. With that in mind and how big that microphone was that day, she needed to STFU.
     
    #32
    Fx51LP308 said:
    I'd venture to say my former state, the PRNJ has it. Remember what these laws are for LE. A tool they can use to effect their "underlying objective..." Get weapons off the streets and disarm the public. Even if the subject is totally innocent and not a danger at all, Good luck in getting your weapons/ammo back from LE. You can kiss them goodbye!
    Click to expand...
    That's exactly what they are. Another damn "patriot act" the cops/DA's can and will abuse. After ALL that we've seen of lawfair and unconstitutional and outright criminal use of the law to destroy political opponents, you'd think anyone with any sense would see how dangerous ANY restrictions or extra tools for .gov to use against the people are.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: XP1K and BurtG
    #33
    Detroit_1 said:
    Cool beans on not being down for it.

    We probably differ (radically) on the role of the AG here - like you said, the AG enforces and does not make law. With that in mind and how big that microphone was that day, she needed to STFU.
    Click to expand...

    Agreed. But that’s a tall order after what happened over there. Politicians feel the need to tell the public they are doing something. A politician will never STFU.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: lash
    #34
    BuildingConceptsllc said:
    That's exactly what they are. Another damn "patriot act" the cops/DA's can and will abuse. After ALL that we've seen of lawfair and unconstitutional and outright criminal use of the law to destroy political opponents, you'd think anyone with any sense would see how dangerous ANY restrictions or extra tools for .gov to use against the people are.
    Click to expand...

    If you were in charge of law enforcement/public safety how would you deal with a wackjob posting threats on social media? Sit on him with a surveillance team for weeks? Do nothing?
     
    • Like
    Reactions: lash, Baron23 and LuckyLuke80
    #37
    Fx51LP308 said:
    I'd venture to say my former state, the PRNJ has it. Remember what these laws are for... LE. A tool they can use to effect their "underlying objective..." Get weapons off the streets and disarm the public. Even if the subject is totally innocent and not a danger at all, Good luck in getting your weapons/ammo back from LE. You can kiss them goodbye!
    Click to expand...
    And you would be wrong. A court must order the surrender, after a hearing. Not just anyone can file a petition. I am not supporting the laws, but some anonymous person can't just get someone else's guns taken away.

    www.camdencounty.com

    See The Signs: New Jersey Red Flag Laws | Camden County, NJ

    See the signs, speak up, save lives Red Flag Laws are Saving Lives. They Could be saving more. In New Jersey, Red Flag Laws, also known as Extreme ... More
    www.camdencounty.com www.camdencounty.com
     
    • Like
    Reactions: lash
    #38
    we can't do anything about it, so we'll have to just hope for the best.

    www.americanthinker.com

    Pam Bondi and the J6 Defendants

    Pam Bondi’s first confirmation hearing will likely ensure her confirmation by the U.S. Senate, but one exchange on Wednesday created or added to a controversy among MAGA-supporters and especially the community of January 6 defendants along with...
    www.americanthinker.com www.americanthinker.com
     
    #40
    BuildingConceptsllc said:
    That's exactly what they are. Another damn "patriot act" the cops/DA's can and will abuse. After ALL that we've seen of lawfair and unconstitutional and outright criminal use of the law to destroy political opponents, you'd think anyone with any sense would see how dangerous ANY restrictions or extra tools for .gov to use against the people are.
    Click to expand...

    Honestly, I think we are taking the wrong approach here. I think it's clear that the people "in power" don't matter. Bondi doesn't matter. Trump doesn't mater. None of them matter. Because they're all pro Red Flag laws. Because all of them want to support LE. And LE likes Red Flag laws for the reasons previously stated. It lets them accomplish their underlying objective... permanently disarming the law abiding public so they can control them. And I think the fact that no one questioned Bondi about her 2A stances etc. etc. or like Dana Loesch not bothering to question Ron DeSantis about Bondi on it in her recent interview on her show, even though she advertised that she would is proof that they support it, indirectly. It's why we're hearing "crickets" when anyone tries to bring it up.

    No matter how many laws exist to guarantee our 2A rights , allow us to purchase inventory/gear, let us carry wherever we want, however we want, or in any State we want, or allow us to carry without needing a permit/license, etc. etc. none of that makes a bit of difference if LE can just come into you house, confiscate your property and not give it back to you when you've been cleared of the accusation. The only way to stop it is to repeal the laws that authorize it... to refuse to let any other State of the feds to enact it.

    And it would seem that the best way to accomplish this, given the failure of trying to elect politicians that will listen to us and get it done, is with litigation. We need to sue the crap out of these LEAs and DA's that try to implement it, knowing full well, the unconstitutionality of it. Red Flag Laws violate the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 14th amendments. We need to get some lawsuits going... all the way up to SCOTUS. We have to hope we'll get some relief there. If we can't, then we are totally "F'ed," And, in that case, I think a quote from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ comes to mind.

    "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."
     
    Last edited:
    • Like
    Reactions: XP1K and BurtG
    #41
    Marinevet1 said:
    The only problem I have with her is the fact that I have yet to find any naked pictures of her on the internet..............
    Click to expand...

    There are definitely naked pictures of her somewhere. Probably at Epstein parties AND Diddy parties. She takes a lot of bribes and trips.

    REMEMBER- this is the person who cut Jeffrey Epstein loose as a state prosecutor. She also sealed all the case records in the State of Florida.

    Inexplicably, she later asked Merrick Garland to release the same info she kept hidden.

    Dems did not ask these questions during confirmation- because they are in the Epstein files too.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: NoDopes and BurtG
    #42
    Fx51LP308 said:
    Honestly, I think we are taking the wrong approach here. I think it's clear that the people "in power" don't matter. Bondi doesn't matter. Trump doesn't mater. None of them matter. Because they're all pro Red Flag laws. Because all of them want to support LE. And LE likes Red Flag laws for the reasons previously stated. It lets them accomplish their underlying objective... permanently disarming the law abiding public so hey can control them. And I think the fact that no one questioned Bondi about her 2A stances etc. etc. or like Dana Loesch not bothering to question Ron DeSantis about Bondi on it in her recent interview on her show, even though she advertised that she would is proof that they support it, indirectly. It's why we're hearing "crickets" when anyone tries to bring it up.

    No matter how many laws exist to guarantee our 2A rights , allow us to purchase inventory/gear, let us carry wherever we want, however we want, or in any State we want, or allow us to carry without needing a permit/license, etc. etc. none of that makes a bit of difference if LE can just come into you house, confiscate your property and not give it back to you when you've been cleared of the accusation. The only way to stop it is to repeal the laws that authorize it... to refuse to let any other State of the feds to enact it.

    And it would seem that the best way to accomplish this, given the failure of trying to elect politicians that will listen to us and get it done, is with litigation. We need to sue the crap out of these LEAs and DA's that try to implement it, knowing full well, the unconstitutionality of it. Red Flag Laws violate the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 14th amendments. We need to get some lawsuits going... all the way up to SCOTUS. We have to hope we'll get some relief there. If we can't, then we are totally "F'ed," And, in that case, I think a quote from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ comes to mind.

    "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."
    Click to expand...
    they know what they are doing
     
    • Like
    Reactions: BurtG and Fx51LP308
    #43
    918v said:
    If you were in charge of law enforcement/public safety how would you deal with a wackjob posting threats on social media? Sit on him with a surveillance team for weeks? Do nothing?
    Click to expand...
    Unfortunately that is what has happened at EVERY one of these mass shootings. They always find an online profile that tells of the coming violence. Also, they always find out that the police did talk to the perp and decided he or she wasn’t really a problem.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Emerson0311 and BurtG
    #44
    AZLong said:
    And you would be wrong. A court must order the surrender, after a hearing. Not just anyone can file a petition. I am not supporting the laws, but some anonymous person can't just get someone else's guns taken away.
    Click to expand...

    Actually, I'm not wrong. Yes, a court order must be entered, but ask yourself who's the petitioner? Who's seeking the court order? And how are they doing it? Most of the time, it's LE that's seeking the court order... not any "anonymous" person. At least it was when I was living in the PRNJ. And it's done "ex parte..." without the defense even knowing it's going on or being able to mount a defense before the sanction is taken. Do you really think a judge is going to question a group of LEOs as to the integrity of their petition? LEOs that work with these judges on a daily basis and have developed "trust" with the judge? Nah.... That judge is just going to sign the dammed thing.

    Damage done.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: lash and BurtG
    #48
    Redmanss said:
    Yep. Absolutely NOBODY should have expected anything less than Red Flag support and >21 y/o for purchase out of any "R".

    Remember folks, Trump is pro 2A to the point it drops his polling numbers when he goes too far either way, and despite what his sons may think he's not someone from gun culture. He's a New Yorker whom I'd bet money he doesn't know the difference between an AR and AK, or a Glock and a 1911. Everything he knows about gun control and freedoms, he learned from the NRA. Let that sink in for a moment.

    Trump and Bondi are not necessarily the solution, but Democrats are absolutely the problem. We are only slightly better off Monday evening than Monday morning. I'll be waiting for actions, both legislatively and bureaucratically, to make an inkling of a move from highly distrustful because despite what letter follows a name of the latest office holder, they're still the government who love power and control as much as they love taxes and restrictive laws that apply to the citizenry but not themselves.
    Click to expand...
    Trump knows exactly what happened in Vegas yet he remains silent. Why?
     
    • Like
    Reactions: JR_77, XP1K, HD1911 and 1 other person
    #49
    and have you noticed LE doing what ever they want without any judicial sanction? asking for "forgiveness" instead of "permission"? cops can't be trusted to tell the truth when they want to do something. the evidence of that is all over. try civil rights lawyer for starters.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: HD1911 and Winningdog
    #50
    Fx51LP308 said:
    Actually, I'm not wrong. Yes, a court order must be entered, but ask yourself who's the petitioner? Who's seeking the court order? And how are they doing it? Most of the time, it's LE that's seeking the court order... not any "anonymous" person. At least it was when I was living in the PRNJ. And it's done "ex parte..." without the defense even knowing it's going on or being able to mount a defense before the sanction is taken. Do you really think a judge is going to question a group of LEOs as to the integrity of their petition? LEOs that work with these judges on a daily basis and have developed "trust" with the judge? Nah.... That judge is just going to sign the dammed thing.

    Damage done.
    Click to expand...
    You obviously read nothing.
     
    • Haha
    Reactions: Fx51LP308
    You must log in or register to reply here.

    Similar threads

    Blue Sky Country
    2A State Alert: WYOMING: HB0172 to repeal "gun free zones" being voted on this week. Prefilled form to contact local reps.
    Replies
    4
    Views
    203
    Blue Sky Country
    Blue Sky Country
    Blue Sky Country
    BREAKING: Gun Owners of America backs JD Vance for Vice President.
    Replies
    13
    Views
    810
    Fx51LP308
    Fx51LP308
    Blue Sky Country
    GOA, GOF helps secure preliminary injunction against Biden's universal registration, private gun sales rule.
    Replies
    4
    Views
    514
    Dispatcher91
    D
    Blue Sky Country
    2A ALERT for COLORADO: CO AWB advanced to committee. Now passed Senate heading to House..
    Replies
    57
    Views
    2K
    MrSmith
    MrSmith
    Blue Sky Country
    BEWARE: New FAKE "gun rights" org run by leftists setting up at gun shows and recruiting the unwary. ARGO (Alliance for Responsible Gun Ownership)
    Replies
    10
    Views
    933
    Blue Sky Country
    Blue Sky Country
    Top Bottom
    Back
    Home
    Forums
    Merch
    Alerts