are we talking about all the ammo seized yet?

If you shoot like shit the ammo doesn’t mean much.

How many guys do you know who are accurate with a 50 cal? Or better yet are accurate after the first shot.
 
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so east bound in az almost to the state line, Benson but they could have headed south to the az boarder too.

if this would have been nabbed heading north we might have a clearer picture

but agreed, its ugly. that much ammo being sold in the US to head south seems unlikely on the surface.
It was heading north. If it was going south there would be no investigation. We don’t care about weapons or ammo going south, in fact the gov encourages it. Remember Fast & Furious?
 
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It was heading north. If it was going south there would be no investigation. We don’t care about weapons or ammo going south, in fact the gov encourages it. Remember Fast & Furious?
No, it was not. It was coming from Phoenix headed south.

 
No, it was not. It was coming from Phoenix headed south.

In that case, what’s the problem? Seems odd for an investigation if that’s the case. Is there a law that says there is a limit on how much ammo I can transport? And what happened to the asylum seekers bit? Seems odd for asylum seekers to be headed south leaving USA to go to Mexico! Then again, we may all be doing the same if we ever have another Biden back in office.
 
In that case, what’s the problem?

Illegal aliens in possession of ammunition.

Seems odd for an investigation if that’s the case. Is there a law that says there is a limit on how much ammo I can transport?

You? Not that I am aware of

And what happened to the asylum seekers bit?

I assume that is the story used when coming across.

Seems odd for asylum seekers to be headed south leaving USA to go to Mexico!

Not if that was the reason for the trip. And they were, odd or not. And they were not necessarily crossing themselves, perhaps getting it to Douglas/Agua Prieta. And therefore...the investigation.
 
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A decent amount in the FCSA. I’m not one of them.

@secondofangle2 is deadly accurate with that awesome .50 barrel he has on his HTI.
You boys seem to think that these illegals are world class shooters.

With that said, half a dozen decent shooters could cause a fair amount of havoc, especially if they have good support groups.

10- M2’s would be a bigger concern to me. Imagine taking out 10 top players. Not top .gov officials but a softer target than that.
 
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Ive seen (assuming) cartel members buying ammo by the pallet load, putting it in the back of a subaru. 10mm, 45, 5.56. 4" thick wad of 100's paid for it. Dude had another wad of cash the same size. Subaru on its bumpstops. According to the guy that woeked there, he came in all the time and wasnt the only one. This was a phoenix metro ammo store. I was sketched the fuck out.
 
Ive seen (assuming) cartel members buying ammo by the pallet load, putting it in the back of a subaru. 10mm, 45, 5.56. 4" thick wad of 100's paid for it. Dude had another wad of cash the same size. Subaru on its bumpstops. According to the guy that woeked there, he came in all the time and wasnt the only one. This was a phoenix metro ammo store. I was sketched the fuck out.
Try buying ammo in Mexico. If they get 1/2 of it across, they are ahead of the game
 
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Wierd... This morning the radio news is reporting this was a bust by the Cochise County Sheriff's department outside of Phoenix. For those of you who don't live in AZ you wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. Cochise is down along the border south of where I am. I sit about 150 miles south of Phoenix. Why wouldn't it have been Maricopa Sheriff's department which would have been Phoenix? OK, so it was a little south of Phoenix, then it should have been Pinal County. OK maybe it was even a little more south, you would have been in Pima County. Something doesn't add up with Cochise being involved. So you're going to leave your jurisdiction by about 170 miles to make a bust? There are too many doughnut shops between here and there to make excuses.

Somebody is not telling the entire story.
 
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Ive seen (assuming) cartel members buying ammo by the pallet load, putting it in the back of a subaru. 10mm, 45, 5.56. 4" thick wad of 100's paid for it. Dude had another wad of cash the same size. Subaru on its bumpstops. According to the guy that woeked there, he came in all the time and wasnt the only one. This was a phoenix metro ammo store. I was sketched the fuck out.
That was prob me. Just because I train and you don’t doesn’t make me the cartel bro.

As for the wad of cash, I dance for rich old ladies, their $100 is a poors $1.
 
Sure as shit nabbed these morons moving safehouses or trucking it down south. That's but a pittance I'm sure. 30K probably won't keep a cartel supplied for long. They train too.

The money to buy it isn't an issue, clearly, for the cartels but someone had to sell all of that to them. Or it was stolen. You'd figure either would make someone say "hmmmm"
 
don't think many dealers/business men would turn down a 30K sale if they thought it was legal. some would sell even if they knew it was illegal. crack does get bought and sold. in their defense i would say that ratting out a cartel buyer might be a bad idea.
 
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FFS, this is why dis-info is fucking everywhere. Half you faggots can't even read the link from the original post, which would have cleared up most of the misconceptions in this thread.

What we know:
According to the statement, crews seized 10,000 rounds of .50 caliber ammunition, and 19,640 rounds of 7.62x39 ammunition.

Officials identified the people in the two vehicles as three asylum seekers, one of whom is from Cuba, and an American citizen out of Texas.

What they're saying:
"The .50 caliber and 7.62x39 rounds were separated within two vehicles traveling east on Interstate 10 from the Phoenix area. The vehicle containing the 7.62x39 ammunition was interdicted by the Pinal County Sheriff’s office. Still, the second vehicle containing the .50 caliber ammunition was located by CNTA investigators at Motel 6 in Benson," officials with CCSO wrote.

"One thing for sure is that U.S. ammunition is a massively sought commodity in Mexico. It is priceless," said Bernard Zapor, a returned ATF Special Agent In Charge who is currently a faculty member of Arizona State University.

Zapor said the busts have the hallmarks of the cartels.
"There's a couple of things that are very interesting about this: the way that it was being transported, it wasn't concealed from the photographs of the arrests. It was very blatantly just stored in an SUV, which indicates to me that they probably had the crossing into Mexico completely arranged," Zapor said.



Carry on, retards.
 
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10K of .50 that's a lot of ammo. How did they find that much that was available legally? What store or distributor has that much on hand at one time? No, I don't think it was procured from different places over time, can't believe that before anyone suggests that.
The Horta's chille restaurant and ammo shop?
 
FFS, this is why dis-info is fucking everywhere. Half you faggots can't even read the link from the original post, which would have cleared up most of the misconceptions in this thread.

What we know:
According to the statement, crews seized 10,000 rounds of .50 caliber ammunition, and 19,640 rounds of 7.62x39 ammunition.

Officials identified the people in the two vehicles as three asylum seekers, one of whom is from Cuba, and an American citizen out of Texas.

What they're saying:
"The .50 caliber and 7.62x39 rounds were separated within two vehicles traveling east on Interstate 10 from the Phoenix area. The vehicle containing the 7.62x39 ammunition was interdicted by the Pinal County Sheriff’s office. Still, the second vehicle containing the .50 caliber ammunition was located by CNTA investigators at Motel 6 in Benson," officials with CCSO wrote.

"One thing for sure is that U.S. ammunition is a massively sought commodity in Mexico. It is priceless," said Bernard Zapor, a returned ATF Special Agent In Charge who is currently a faculty member of Arizona State University.

Zapor said the busts have the hallmarks of the cartels.
"There's a couple of things that are very interesting about this: the way that it was being transported, it wasn't concealed from the photographs of the arrests. It was very blatantly just stored in an SUV, which indicates to me that they probably had the crossing into Mexico completely arranged," Zapor said.



Carry on, retards.
What about the other half of the faggots? Are they also retards?

Asking for a moron.
 
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What about the other half of the faggots? Are they also retards?

Asking for a moron.
The other half read the article, but didn't retain the information.

All faggots are retards (by definition), but not all retards are faggots.

Hope that clears it up for you the moron you know. (edited because I just reread your final sentence, and didn't intend to imply that YOU were said moron)
 
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It is illegal to take ammo into Mexico, their laws. It is illegal to export ammo without proper licenses, our laws as well. Chances are good you will go to jail trying to haul 1600 pounds of ammo in the back seat of a stolen car into Mexico. Since it was packed like shit and clearly visible, that means the Mexicans had every intention of letting that SUV simply drive thru their customs checkpoint. Their government employees are working for drug cartels.

I have absolutely no problem with either government enforcing their gun laws at our borders.

My problem is that these glory hog cops stopped this crime before seeing where all this ammo was going and who was slipping it into Mexico. These people are fuckwits. If they were serious about fixing this problem, they would sell a few cases of each containing 2 or 3 C4 filled cartridges ad see who finds them.

It should not be all about trying to get your picture on TV.
 
I would think the biggest retards read a news article and let that put any questions to rest. 🤫🤔
Bigger than those claiming Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, and criminals incarcerated for assaulting police officers are hostages and political prisoners, and in the same forum claim that illegal aliens coming across the border to seek jobs are a hostile enemy invasion? Bigger than those?
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Bigger than those claiming Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, and criminals incarcerated for assaulting police officers are hostages and political prisoners, and in the same forum claim that illegal aliens coming across the border to seek jobs are an enemy invasion? Bigger than those?
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Bigger than those claiming Jan 6 was a peaceful protest, and criminals incarcerated for assaulting police officers are hostages and political prisoners, and in the same forum claim that illegal aliens coming across the border to seek jobs are an enemy invasion? Bigger than those?
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So you voted for Kamala and she lost, get over it. What is it with you cock gobbling leftists anyway.

If Jan 6th was real, what happened to the guys who planted bombs outside of the DNC headquarters? Nobody ever arrested them did thay?

Nobody arrested the 200 FBI employees and their antifa allies who did most of the violence.

Nobody arrested the cop who literally murdered Ashley Babbitt, no one even investigated.

If a shred of your leftist bullshit was true, Biden would not have pardoned the members of the J6 committee. Imagine for a minute, living in a world where the then president of the United States admits to the public that the entire investigation into January 6th was so full of felons, lies and deception that in order to protect party lackeys from the consequences of their own actions, he had issue them blanket pardons for all crimes they committed on behalf of the Democratic party. You give pardons to guilty people.

Were the protests peaceful? I'll answer that when you tell me where the extra 20,000,000 votes Biden got in that election went? Because they sure as fuck disappeared in 2024.

More than 80% of charges for J6 crap are simply trespassing but with DNC enhancements for persecution purposes. The leftists at the FBI and within the J6 persecutors have hidden and deliberately obstructed the courts by refusing to provide any of the thousands of hours of security footage showing Capital policemen opening doors and welcoming people into the building, escorting people around the building.

All socialism is fraud.
 
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So you voted for Kamala and she lost,

No, sorry.

.

If Jan 6th was real, what happened to the guys who planted bombs outside of the DNC headquarters? Nobody ever arrested them did thay?

Nobody arrested the 200 FBI employees and their antifa allies who did most of the violence.

Nobody arrested the cop who literally murdered Ashley Babbitt, no one even investigated.

None of this addresses the criminal attacks, does it?

If a shred of your leftist bullshit was true, Biden would not have pardoned the members of the J6 committee.

Has nothing to do with the criminal attacks.

Imagine for a minute, living in a world where the then president of the United States admits to the public that the entire investigation into January 6th was so full of felons, lies and deception that in order to protect party lackeys from the consequences of their own actions, he had issue them blanket pardons for all crimes they committed on behalf of the Democratic party.

Were the protests peaceful? I'll answer that when you tell me where the extra 20,000,000 votes Biden got in that election went? Because they sure as fuck disappeared in 2024.
The election has nothing to do with the criminal attacks on the capitol. Nor do the pardons. But by all means do not address the question.
 
No, sorry.



None of this addresses the criminal attacks, does it?



Has nothing to do with the criminal attacks.


The election has nothing to do with the criminal attacks on the capitol. Nor do the pardons. But by all means do not address the question.


So in your retarded democrat brain, the massive election fraud in the 2020 election had nothing to do with the J6 protests? WTF do you think they were protesting?
 
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So in your retarded democrat brain, the massive election fraud in the 2020 election had nothing to do with the J6 protests? WTF do you think they were protesting?
Look, you can't communicate like adult, go back to your friends in the sandbox.

The motivation (however irrational) behind the riot is irrelevant. Robbing a store because I am hungry does not make me innocent of robbery. The violent criminals were imprisoned for violence. You can justify and rationalize all you like. Don't care. Done.
*plonk*
 
It is Capt. Obvious that the drivers had absolutely no fear at the Border Crossing, US already knows which Cartel controls which of the Border Crossings. I live in Northern Arizona and the amount of drugs that passes through my town from is unbelievable, nighttime is the most active and we get grants to patrol the corridor as well as a strong DPS presence. I wonder is the seller dropped a dime?

All for Trump declaring War on Cartels and using MIL to do it.